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Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Impermanent posted:

pretty sure you can arrest and release people to get them outta the colony

Nope, a released colonist prisoner just goes back to being a colonist, albeit with a mood loss

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Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Even hunting with tribals is hard :( it took my guy three days to kill an elk with a bow. Dude just couldn't hit it.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Azhais posted:

Tynan is wildly against this becoming dwarf fortress where people just hole up in a mountain and live forever with their killboxes having fun. First pass was adding sappers. Then infestations. Presumably step 3 will have him requiring you make air vents to pump in oxygen or your people all die of co2 poisoning.

Is it bad that I'd kinda like that :saddowns: My dream addition would be the ability to build a real spaceship in Rimworld's style and have people mining asteroids and adding on to it and stuff.

Spacebase DF-9 ending up as a total shitheap nearly killed me.

Drink Cheerwine posted:

He has a hate-boner for mountain bases specifically, and successful colonies generally. Tynan has a lot of good instincts, but sometimes his sense of balance/fun is kinda wack. I think a lot of it stems from his conception of Rimworld as a "story generator" rather than a game.

It also sucks because Tynan's idea of a good story is "Then another hundred idiots came to attack the base again" over and over until one says "except this time they killed everyone the end"

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Fat Samurai posted:

If I understand the wiki correctly, pemmican is just for storing food before you get electricity, right?

Your dudes can eat pemmican without any mood malus, but I think they eat 20 at a time, when a meal made of pemmican only uses 10. It's something like that I forget the exact numbers.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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At the very least it also means fighting mechanoids armed with miniguns is basically a safe bet if you have cover. Or even if you don't. Miniguns are the worst.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Roadie posted:

To me, coldstone et al feels like a stopgap replacement for simple stuff just totally missing from the game engine, like "dig a basement and put stuff in it to keep it cool".

Edit: Z-layers! :arghfist:

I know it won't happen, but I'd love Z-layers so I can go full on dwarf fortress creating pit traps and stuff to use against invaders.

A man can dream :smith:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Walton Simons posted:

Yess, I recruited one of the prisoners and she's quite competent at many things (can't socialise, though)!

Where do orbital trade drops tend to land? I had to reload an autosave because I simply could not find a shipment of components and I find hauling a bit spotty at times given that they degrade outside. The save was right before I got the notice about the trade ship so hopefully it'll come by again (I don't know when the game decides which events happen, I heard it was at the start of each day).

Even if you don't put a stockpile on it, it's a good idea to keep a powered trade beacon outside, since in my experience trade drops will always try to drop near it. I think without one, it's just totally random.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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BBJoey posted:

you call that worthless?



:bsdsnype:

I really wish Tynan would see stuff like this and think hey maybe there's a few too many backgrounds that disable everything useful. Tynan also hates fun though, so everything might be according to plan.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I think pirates are the only faction you can't raise reputation with to get them to stop attacking. Because god forbid you don't deal with 70 people assaulting your base every three days

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Do mountain walls count? I've always been sorta confused on how the whole mountain temperature thing works.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Is there a way to get the preview A15 version through sendowl or is it steam only?

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meatsaw posted:

Although the shotgun isn't a bad vanilla weapon, one of my favorite parts of the Combat Realism mod is the ability to make beanbag ammo - so far it's been the perfect way to take someone down without injuring them (too much). I've used it to capture, used it to subdue escapees, and used it to stop rampages and mental breaks.

Once I get a prison built I always create at least one with some of this and keep it around just in case.

One of the reasons I use Glittertech at all is because of the Pacifier, it's basically a futuristic taser. I'd love to see less-lethal weapons make it to the vanilla game.

Danaru fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Aug 18, 2016

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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ToxicFrog posted:

EE: there's an option to keep playing after everyone is dead. What's the point of this?

I always assumed that was if you want to take one last look through the wreckage, other than that I have no idea

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Gesadt posted:

just got this game and i cant find any info on this - what materials do i need for organ harvesting ? when i try to harvest organs from prisoners i just get the message - materials are needed for the operations. But the game doesn't specify which. Ive got medical supplies and sufficient medicine level to be used on prisoners (herbal medcine). what else?

I think you might need to set the prisoner to have a higher health care (default is no medicine, crank it up to herbal or whatever you have on hand). I thought it had a different message though. It's the only thing I can think of :saddowns:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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To be fair it's a pain that we can build cryostasis pods without much effort, but need a mod to build a fuse box

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Taear posted:

I have a big fat guy who has lost both of his legs. Is it worth giving him two peg legs or should I euthanise him?
He doesn't have any super necessary skills. He's not terrible or anything but he doesn't fill a slot I desperately need.

Keep him as long as you've got a reasonable amount of food, and he can haul/clean.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

Wait.

You don't need a sunlamp and hydroponics to grow crops?

Just don't build floors over the dirt :v:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I like Glittertech to an extent. The Orion guys and the commandos are just dumb because whatever method he uses for raid values is severely hosed up. I'll see a raid of like ten tribals, take them out, then suddenly twenty orion dudes with two tanks are beating at my doors.

I really like the advanced power stuff and the Pacifier weapon, since it's effectively a taser, but most of it I don't really care for. You'd think mods with stun weapons would be more common :( The closest thing to a non-lethal weapon is probably the vulcan cannon from More Vanilla Turrets because it causes so many low-weight injuries that most people pass out from the pain without actually getting their body parts destroyed.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Squeegy posted:

How do you take an arrow to the spine from the front without damaging any organs?

How does a doctor manage to lop off a patients leg and nearly mulch a kidney while they're trying to install a bionic eye :cripes:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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When you play on an ice sheet, entire world is your freezer

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Devdisigdu posted:

Turrets also used to have the ability to manually attack a target, which I imagine he removed for the same reason. Just another part of Tynan's dislike of over-reliance on static defences.

This mindset would make more sense if it was at all possible to survive without static defences for a decent amount of time

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Has mining been slowed down in A15? I swear it's like pulling teeth getting anything mined out suddenly.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I just want to build my comically over engineered pit traps and underground bunker :saddowns:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Randy

Please just send a drat raid, dude.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Holy poo poo marijSmokeleaf is loving awesome. Yeah sure things got sorta lovely for a while there some people got executed and eaten but everyone's stoned off their gourd so no one's even in danger of a minor break. I don't remember booze being this effective

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I swear malaria and the other diseases prioritize anyone with doctoring active :argh:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I usually play legit but every once in a while I like to start as six cannibal psychopaths with charge rifles just to show the game I can be a dick too :colbert: Also because I can actually see how big a fortress I can build before getting bored

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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GenericOverusedName posted:

Cannibals still get upset at the idea of cutting up people like animals. Psychopaths don't care about the butchery part but still don't like eating people.

Cannibals don't mind butchering any more as of A15 at least. I forget if they still hate seeing bodies though.

EDIT: Just got a heat wave and a solar flare together, jokes on you Randy I opted to cheap out by mass woodcutting and sticking passive coolers everywhere :c00lbert:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Now I admit I'm no doctor, but that seems a little more than a minor failure. I just wanted to replace that kidney :(

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I recently found out that pawns get a negative moodlet from eating bug meat so I'm probably going to turn them off too. The one good thing they bring and Tynan ruined it :argh:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I had my warden get sick with malaria and assigned them to bed rest, meanwhile a raid hit and I captured about five tribals.

Fast forward a day or two later of me forgetting to assign a new warden, one of the prisoners in the giant prisoner room dies, and immediately the rest of the prisoners descend upon him and start eating the corpse, since without a warden, none of them have been fed.

I think I finally managed to hit the point where I feel like a war criminal, and it was completely by accident :( I'm just going to let these guys go free, they've been through more than enough

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Coolguye posted:

speaking of big mood hits

speaking of speaking of big mood hits, I took a highly skilled worker who had an alcohol addiction forgetting the beer production stuff changed and Hoo Doggy that -25 mood hit is a killer :stare: I learned how to keep booze flowing pretty quick at least. Also a couple other colonists became alcoholics which is a little alarming. Is there any way to cure some of these guys? I was considering double dipping and growing smokeleaf too but the last thing I need are double addicts.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I'm going to have to build a rehab room because all my alcoholic colonists have such massive alcohol tolerance. It's always sad to see an entire colony hit rock bottom all at the same time. :(

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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My now level 20 artist has managed to make three excellent stone statues, and a masterpiece one.

All three silver statues I tried to build were normal quality :negative:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I had a guy at 52% withdrawal since I'm sick of him getting no bonuses from the beer supply. He ended up going on a booze binge without me noticing, taking away the withdrawal effect. Next time I checked, he was sober and his withdrawal was at 51%. So it's good to know you don't lose all your progress if your colonist cheats :v:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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As cool and out of character it is for Tynan to give us a drug to block malaria, is there any way to prevent the flu or the plague? It feels weird to only be able to block one of them when functionally they seem pretty much the same.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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I'm sorta tempted to take her and try to Six Million Dollar Woman her before she spontaneously crumples to dust but she refuses to do almost anything. Also she's only 58 :stare:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Lunethex posted:

What's below artery blockage?

It was either Frail or Bad Back, unfortunately the game crashed right after I started the colony before I could make a save. :( If it was bad back, I'm running EPOE so I could have bionic'd up her spine.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Danger - Octopus! posted:

I like the developer's response where he seems to be saying that it's early access and buggy and a bunch of justifications for why he has made an overcomplicated system of gender differentiation when there's actually no need for the different genders to act differently and there could just be one set of rules for attraction that apply to everyone..

Oh come on I'm sure it's not that ba--

Tynan posted:

And personal observations: I’ve known some bi women and a large proportion of the nominally straight women I’ve known have discussed bi impulses or experiences they’ve had. In contrast, every bi man I’ve ever known has ultimately ended up identifying as gay. These patterns seem to apply even in very gay-friendly social contexts.

Tynan no :cripes:

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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Endorph posted:

on the other hand the guy who made the game's done interviews for breitbart and made the autism trait in the game literally set empathy to 0

Wait which trait is this :confused:

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Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

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PleasingFungus posted:

basically the bigfoots of sexuality

I know this is supposed to make fun of Tynan, but I want to appropriate this title :smugbert:

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