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Periodiko posted:I feel like there's basically two ways to do a correspondent piece: pretend to be a crazy monster and make your character half the joke (Jones and Sam Bee, most of the old correspondents) or be a likable, witty audience surrogate that just says the stuff we wish we could say (Williams, Aasif Mandvi). I feel like Klepper hasn't really landed on a specific voice: he occasionally plays stupid, but he doesn't stay in character as hard as guys like Colbert or Jones would. In the atheist/diner piece, he tried an audience surrogate approach. I think he just lacks a consistent angle, or character. Klepper is actually doing the latter option to a T. He makes his subjects look like insane people and lands by the book ironic and sarcastic burns on them like those segments are supposed to go, but he just doesn't stand out at it. I guess it's just been done so much at this point that doing a perfectly competent field piece in that style doesn't really do much to differentiate him. Jessica does largely the same in recorded stuff, with better delivery, but she really really shines in her non-bottled bits.
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Yeah, I think saying Klepper is bad isn't really fair to him because of the overall quality of the group right now. Josh Gad, as great as he turned out to be in Book of Mormon, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked as a correspondent. Mo Rocca is also smug incarnate. Klepper's working to find his niche in an increasingly diverse and talented pool. He's doing fine. I still maintain, incidentally, that Olivia Munn would've turned out well had they gotten more time to work with her style. Wyatt Cenac comes to mind as the closest comparison of someone who got off to a bad start but eventually revealed a lot of potential; I feel like Munn fell into that boat but ended up wandering off to do other things before it could really happen.
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I feel like doing a good field piece and having good banter with Jon et al. in the studio are two very different things. Al Madrigal could get Jon (and us) to crack up in-person, but usually struggled with the field bits. Someone like Jason Jones does nothing for me in the studio, but regularly puts up great interviews.
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Does Jessica Williams have any stand-up shows available? For some reason I can't see her being that good at it, even though she's fantastic on TDS.
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Pander posted:Does Jessica Williams have any stand-up shows available? For some reason I can't see her being that good at it, even though she's fantastic on TDS. I don't think she does stand-up shows. All I've heard mentioned with her is improv. She's performed with the Upright Citizens Brigade.
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I feel like this is a good as time as any to remind you all to watch A Colbert Christmas this season.
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Mo0 posted:Yeah, I think saying Klepper is bad isn't really fair to him because of the overall quality of the group right now. Josh Gad, as great as he turned out to be in Book of Mormon, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked as a correspondent. Mo Rocca is also smug incarnate. Klepper's working to find his niche in an increasingly diverse and talented pool. He's doing fine. Olivia Munn wasn't nearly the worst of all time, but I would argue her stage presence was. She was not cut out for that role at all.
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On the other hand, her Tiger Mothering report is one of my favorites of all time so I'll always be grateful for her time on the show.
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My favourite Klepper bit is his intro segment where he kept nervously referring to Jon as "dad". If he'd stuck with that gimmick it could have turned into a good running gag. As it is I think he's perfectly competent and probably would have even stuck out as a star in an earlier era without the incredibly strong bench they have now.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I feel like this is a good as time as any to remind you all to watch A Colbert Christmas this season. I'm just mentioning this because he'll also be doing a live script reading of The Interview, as Franco's character in NYC. The New York Times even wrote about it. He's a funny guy.
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Afro posted:I really like Klepper.  http://thedailyshow.cc.com/video-playlists/s2803w/the-best-of-josh-gad/qst60i
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CSM posted:But he did one of my favorite bits ever Jesus I wasted 4 minutes in that garbage
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Diogines posted:Goons. It has been an honor and a privilege to watch the Colbert Report with you for years. Just wanted to pop in and say my farewells to a show I will miss dearly. I'll always thank The Colbert Report for giving us the Maurice Sendak interviews, which are my favorite moments in all of TV.
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Tomero_the_Great posted:Just wanted to pop in and say my farewells to a show I will miss dearly. I'll always thank The Colbert Report for giving us the Maurice Sendak interviews, which are my favorite moments in all of TV. I also loved those segments. If you want to cry like a little child, listen to the Fresh Air interview
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Turambar posted:I also loved those segments. If you want to cry like a little child, listen to the Fresh Air interview Thank you for this. My other all-time favorite moment was when Colbert covered the product placement in soap operas and a box of Cheerios took a bullet for him.
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We're also going to need a new title for the 2015 Daily Show/Nightly Show thread. Sadly, the Report ending takes away half of the viable quotes. It'll still be a few more months before TVIV has to decide whether Colbert's Late Show needs its own thread or could be lumped in with the rest of late night TV.
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Echo Chamber posted:We're also going to need a new title for the 2015 Daily Show/Nightly Show thread. Sadly, the Report ending takes away half of the viable quotes. I'm going to make a crazy prediction here and say it won't need its own thread.
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I'm gonna make a crazier prediction and say the first year will get its own thread due to goonrush then gradually it'll be absorbed into the general late night chat as people stop going nuts over it like Conan at the beginning.
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Echo Chamber posted:We're also going to need a new title for the 2015 Daily Show/Nightly Show thread. Sadly, the Report ending takes away half of the viable quotes. The Daily/Nightly Show 2015: We'll meet again, Don't know where, Don't know when 
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swickles posted:The Daily/Nightly Show 2015: We'll meet again, Don't know where, Don't know when I think for at least the first few months the most appropriate one would be "....Jon?"
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jojoinnit posted:I'm gonna make a crazier prediction and say the first year will get its own thread due to goonrush then gradually it'll be absorbed into the general late night chat as people stop going nuts over it like Conan at the beginning. Did Conan even get his own thread? I don't know, I love Colbert but the late night talk show formula is loving cancer.
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It really is. We're so exposed to celebrities now that it doesn't really matter. We see them in candid situations on gossip mags, websites, Twitter and all other social media. I get an ad everywhere I go for the next big blockbuster. Frankly, very few stars have real charisma either. But what can you do? It's relatively stable for the Big 3, but none of these shows will ever have an impact like the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and the field is incredibly diluted on top of that legacy.
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Boywhiz88 posted:It really is. We're so exposed to celebrities now that it doesn't really matter. We see them in candid situations on gossip mags, websites, Twitter and all other social media. I get an ad everywhere I go for the next big blockbuster. Frankly, very few stars have real charisma either. But what can you do? It's relatively stable for the Big 3, but none of these shows will ever have an impact like the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and the field is incredibly diluted on top of that legacy. On top of that the interviews are far and away their worst aspect. The only one I watch is Conan and I usually just skip the show after the first 15-20 minutes. Unless it's someone I really like and who does good late night gigs or is an animal act and therefore innately unpredictable, it's gonna be the same typically boring poo poo 8 times a week. For real, ditch the guests or at least one of them, do more remotes, more skits, hell even make the monologue a few minutes more would do a hell of a lot to get more watching time out of me. Case in point for someone who says he hates video games his reviews get more genuine positive reaction out of him than almost anything in the interview segment. Hell he even seems to have more fun doing remotes with celebrities than he does having them on the loving set. It's baffling.
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Boywhiz88 posted:It really is. We're so exposed to celebrities now that it doesn't really matter. We see them in candid situations on gossip mags, websites, Twitter and all other social media. I get an ad everywhere I go for the next big blockbuster. Frankly, very few stars have real charisma either. But what can you do? It's relatively stable for the Big 3, but none of these shows will ever have an impact like the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and the field is incredibly diluted on top of that legacy.
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I'm really not sure why late night British shows are so great. Same thing for the XFactor, too.
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CSM posted:Is it me, or is Jordan Klepper the worst correspondent in Daily Show history? Olivia Munn wins by far on that score. Any non-US goons get tired of the abusive amount of ads on the website? They (ads not goons) actually drove me away from watching on the web. "Ad block" yeah but ... 
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Olivia Munn wins by far on that score. lol Getting adblock is effortless.
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Adblock is a browser plugin.Narcissus1916 posted:I'm really not sure why late night British shows are so great. As far as Graham Norton at least, I'd wager it's because it only comes on once a week. US weeknight talk shows I feel mainly exist due to tradition, and the shitfit people would have if their nostalgia were to be destroyed. Also, because they probably have absolutely nothing else worth showing at that time of night.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:^ I am ultra-cautious about downloading any software. Shouldn't you be way more cautious about seedy ads that can do nasty stuff to your computer just by having them on your screen? Unless that sort of thing has been done away with in the last decade.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:lol Getting adblock is effortless. Adblock doesn't work 75%+ of the time on hulu for me. It's actually easier to just watch it with commercials and restart the feed at commercial breaks so I can watch a 30 second ad instead of 4 minutes worth.
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IRQ posted:Did Conan even get his own thread? I don't know, I love Colbert but the late night talk show formula is loving cancer. Cancer? Really? Calm down, people. It's a cheap, fun little combination of stand-up comedy, sketch comedy, and conversations with potentially interesting people. That's a nice format in a massive television landscape that has plenty of room for it. That is not a fatal disease. Maybe it's not completely hilarious and fascinating five nights a week every week of the year, but at worst it's harmless TV you turn off and then go to sleep. It's not the goddamned consumption. Enough with the "my taste is the right taste" hyperbole.
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How many writers would a show need to to 40min of new comedy 5-nights a weeks, months on end? I just treat all the shows as, short stand up, short bit, then ignore the interviews and musical guest. They are at best 10-15min shows, including TDS.
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Frostwerks posted:Adblock doesn't work 75%+ of the time on hulu for me. It's actually easier to just watch it with commercials and restart the feed at commercial breaks so I can watch a 30 second ad instead of 4 minutes worth. Yeah, this is true of a few streaming services. I don't mind the ads so much on Hulu, though. Most of the time I'm just watching a couple episodes of something there. PowerBuilder3 posted:How many writers would a show need to to 40min of new comedy 5-nights a weeks, months on end? Some interviewers are very good, but they're pretty rare. Craig Ferguson was the only one where it'd be foolish to skip any part of the show in recent memory. Who knows, Colbert could also be great at interviews out of character.
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I am strongly considering re-watching all Colbert report and am wondering if it would be just as good as it was the first time, even if the events he talks about are no longer current. I have missed so many episodes over the years, and I would kinda like to catch up. I have looked online to see if it can be bought on dvd/blueray or any other medium but I have not found anything other than The best of Colbert. I would really prefer not to resort to illegal downloading or illegal streaming if it can be avoided.
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Typically talk shows wouldn't get a "complete" release or even a "comprehensive clips" release. If you're lucky enough to be in the U.S., I believe most of the show's stuff should still be on the official comedy central website; except for the ones where the music rights are tied up. If you live outside the US... good luck. Sadly, NBC purged the online clips of the Late Night portions of the Conan/Jon/Stephen crossover all the way back from the writers strike. So what's Larry Wilmore's most memorable line from TDS? Maybe that should be the 2015 thread title.
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At least there's a bunch of clips on youtube. I wasn't aware that Colbert was such a Lord of the Ring fan. I just saw the two clips of him schooling James Franco, and it was brutal.
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Dalael posted:I wasn't aware that Colbert was such a Lord of the Ring fan. I just saw the two clips of him schooling James Franco, and it was brutal. He spent some time in New Zealand hanging out on the set, won a trivia contest (beating screenwriter Philippa Boyens), has a cameo in one of the Hobbit movies and has a "real" Sting. You could say he's a bit of a fan
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Turambar posted:He spent some time in New Zealand hanging out on the set, won a trivia contest (beating screenwriter Philippa Boyens), has a cameo in one of the Hobbit movies and has a "real" Sting. You could say he's a bit of a fan Didn't Viggo Mortensen also give him Aragorn's sword?
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