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Cythereal posted:Machine elves appeared elsewhere first? Doesn't surprise me. I've only heard the term from real trippy types. 'Machine Elves' are the term that psychonaut Terrance McKenna coined for the fractal aliens he met while taking DMT. Other people who've met them are guys like Grant Morrison (who's put them in his comics) and other DMT-users. To find out more you need to plumb the depths of TCC or Erowid, and I'm not in the right headspace. But in RPG terms I'd expect them to be incredibly powerful - Ascended Archtypes in Unknown Armies, ancient Mages/Geniuses who've trancended reality, mystical gods. Brings you meet on vision quests, not computer gremlins. On a more mundane note, you could drop Task Force VASCU into Unknown Armies without much trouble. Night10194 posted:Bioshock merchandising tie-in? Half-Life did it first. I hold to the philosophy that if you can change or improve any part of humanity, you should! Chieron probably does too.
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Night10194 posted:Ashwood Abbey would be way more interesting if they'd cool it with the constant rape. They're the villains from half the Vertigo comics in the 80s. Hellblazer had dozens of these guys and so did Swamp Thing and The Invisibles. I heard that new investigations in Britain are turning up the real thing too. Still I'd rather they were more like the Sensates from Planescape. Shooting up vampire blood, getting Mages to mindfuck them, eating cryptid meat - anything for new experiences. And most of them would leave the supernaturals they did that WITH - not TO - alive. Then they could be PCs. The Hunt Club could be the old Ashwood Abbey, since 'depraved aristocrats' still make good villians.
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The UA website is still around, and dedicated fans still add to it. Last week somebody made a Snail Adept, which should prove that UA magick is the best magick. Or maybe I'm just obsessed with something nobody cares about. Unknown Armies-mancy. The Paradox: the more you talk about your favorite RPG, the more you drive people away because they think you're nuts. Has there been anything since it came out that scratches that Unknown Armies itch? Some of nWoD and Hunters seems doable but not quite as weird.
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Young Freud posted:This relates a lot to a discussion I had with a friend about Call of Cthulhu Sanity, that maybe we should not be thinking of a cultist going into gibbering madness but achieving some sort of weirdo transubstantial enlightenment where they no longer think in human terms. What good is believing everyone is a rational actor when you find that that the dark powers that run the universe behave in what a human would think is irrationally. An ant can't fathom why we go on vacations or the concept of an economy, but if one did start thinking like a human, then it would be the outsider. Reminds me of Phil Sandifer's take on the first Cyberman episodes, where they were qloppothicly enlightened beings instead of cyborgs. They saw so much they were no longer human.
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hyphz posted:Cliomancers are a bit odd because they're kind of US-centric. In a smaller country, history will be much more concentrated and they'll presumably become more powerful. Heck, in the UK you can commute to London and pass through a number of historical sites on the way, possibly including the railway line you are on. Remember how I said that UA infected everything I read? When I was into James Joyce, I wanted to write up a game about Cliomancers using the anniversary of Bloomsday to turn Dublin into a Groundhog Day version of that one day that Ulysess is set on. I guess it'd be Bibliomancers vs Cliomancers. I should probably just post this stuff in the dedicated UA thread to avoid ranting here or filling up the thread with things like War Boy Entropomancers. Or those drug guys brewing up magickal paint huffing rituals. I gotta say that as much as I love it, schools like Epideromancers can really bug me depending on my mood. I know people who've self-harmed, and having that be a route to magikal power can be really disturbing. I guess most of the schools like Dipsomancy can trigger people that way. I feel like if any game needs a 'this is all fake. This is not real' warning it's Unknown Armies. I'm glad that the media or fundies never picked up on it, since 'the game where you cut yourself for power' would make D&D's Satanic Panic look like nothing.
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Ratoslov posted:Well, not necessarily. You totally can make a Dipso that can hold down a job or a Entropo that'll live to see thirty. You just have to stick to minor magicks and you probably feel like a chickenshit for only sipping at the edges of true ultimate power instead of drinking straight from the firehose. Eh Keith Richards is, what, 70? Play a Kennedy or a rock star or an Alfie Dipso and they'll do fine, for certain values of 'fine'. And strap a GoPro to an Entropomancer and they'll get a Red Bull sponsorship and tons of money. I'd mix English cliomancy with psychogeography. And if you want theories of Urbanomancy I took a whole course on The City; lots of talk of flaneurs and Situationalism.
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Kellsterik posted:Solid start to a Proxy ritual if you wanted to become Charlie Chaplin for magickal purposes. Where does Robert Downey Jr., who first got respect playing Chaplin, came in? I'm sure his father's gang of underground filmmakers included an occultist or two.
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Are all those Hites in Hunter a reference to Kenneth Hite? Are the Ascending Ones based on the Narco-Alchemists? I feel like if Unknown Armies was any other game, we'd be criticizing the Epideromancer for being so edgy and disturbing. I want to say I'd ban it if/when I run UA, or at least not allow them without some discussion. OTOH, in a UA game I played my character was possessed by an Epideromancer demon and the GM let me control the demon. So I ripped out my character's eye and melted another PC (who just rolled up another one). I guess my problem is that as serious as alcoholism and self-destruction are, you can do pop-culture versions of them. You can do a Bogart or a Bukowski or a million other kinds of drunks, and you can do daredevils and War Boys and tons of fun stuff. But Epideromancers seem like they have more disturbing real-life examples than fictional ones. Maybe I'd keep them as NPCs, since I wouldn't want to lose The Freak. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jun 8, 2015 |
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If your Dipso has a Sig vessel, that's a plot hook in itself. How'd he get it? Who else wants it? What will they do to get it? I'd have it be gained in play. Also 'magick' is balanced by Adepts being gently caress ups. That magick doesn't look as impressive next to the other guy's 'Lawyer 60%' skill. Even a rich Dipso should be a useless Alfie type.
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I found a great McGuffin for your next Slasher, Hunter, or Unknown Armies game. Maybe I should just leave this stuff in the Greg Stolze thread, or start a new UA rumors thread.
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Unknown Armies is a game of POSTMODERN magick. You did it. Truth is malleable. It's the opposite of the 'codify everything with numbers' tact D&D takes. It's a different, more literary way of seeing the world. On a less insane note, I love the free form skills. They're like FATE Aspects. We had one game where the pre-gem mother character healed everyone with band-aids and tender loving care.
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I was watching an Adam Curtis doco last night that addressed all of this - the efforts governments went through to alter public perceptions after WW2, and what happened when they failed. And yeah lol at the idea of a history or reality that can't be altered by perception. Most people don't look at primary sources or evidence. Take a trawl through r/badhistory or just read any Lost Cause narrative or popular history. And if you alter the narratives people use to organize their lives, you can alter how they see the world. Another Cliomancy question- who's history? Australia seems historically barren from a Western perspective but people say there's tons of Indigenous history. Can you charge off those sacred sites, or do you need to know about them first? Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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quote:Task Force: VALKYRIE hasn't much gotten an anti-magic gun, but they do have the Screamer Pistol (3 dots). If you can't concentrate, you can't cast spells. Stopping a spell in action is hard, but disrupting concentration is easier. The screamer pistol generates a beam of ultra-low-frequency sound which, at a distance, leads to hallucination and altered consciousness. At close range, it destroys the ability to concentrate and, in extreme cases, can hit the resonant frequency of the human bowel, causing it to violently vacate itself. Good luck casting a spell through that! This works on anything with a sense of balance and coherent thought processes...except werewolves, who appearently just get really angry. White Wolf. White Wolf never changes. At least Spider Jerusalem's Bowel Disruptor is kinda cool.
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Cliomancy isn't limited to 'general' history, right? Can you specialize in music history and fight wars over who really invented rock and roll? Is the shift away from 'rockism' leaving bitter Greil Marcus and Lester Bangs Adepts scrambling for charges so they can bring it back on top? What school does the 'Stephen King shot John Lennon' van guy follow? What about that 'Garbologist' who hunted through Bob Dylan's trash? Are their local scene politics that are fought with blood and Magick, as Clios try and contextualize and justify the actions of the Dipsos, Epideromancers (GG Allin) and Entropomancers that actually play in bands? Does the Seattle setting book for Hunter say what REALLY caused Kurt Cobain's death? How do I explain RPGs to my therapist?
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I really want to do something with all the occult weirdness around Brian Wilson and Charles Manson. Our last UA game actually ended with me somehow convincing the party to kill annoying local musician Ben Lee and then bottling his soul. I think I was an Urbanomancer/music journalist/self-insert who got them to rename the Metro 'the Ben Lee Memorial Theatre'. I got a Sig charge and the campaign ended. A few months ago, the Metro actually changed its name. Ben Lee is still alive, but he spent a year doing ayahuasca in the jungle. Say, have I told you about my notes for a Hold Steady UA campaign?
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Halloween Jack posted:Remember when Thorpe did a Your Band Sucks article where he invented a favourite band? Convincing a bunch of people that Egyptian Head really existed has got to be worth a significant charge. Minor, surely. Unless you can convince Sasha Frere Jones and Pitchfork to review their album, getting a bunch of randoms at a festival to agree that a band exists is easy. Now my brain is sparking with stuff about Carles from Hipster Runoff and Lana Del Rey/Lizzie Grant, and I'm starting to wish I never read the words 'Unknown Armies' in a FATAL review on RPG.net.
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What's odd is that despite 'music is magic' being a pretty common idea, I don't think anyone has managed to write up a good Adept school based on that. I looked when I was playing, so maybe there's something on the site, but it's hard to get a good central paradox. Phonogram is probably the best we'll get.
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quote:In the US, a few cells seek out haunted sites or possession cases in order to try and get the spirits to possess them briefly - it's a mind-altering experience, but a bit too far for many of the Abbey. THAT's where they draw the line? Rape and murder and cannibalism are common, but letting some little spirit posses you so you can trip out is too far? In a 'neutral' version of Ashwood Abbey voluntary possession would be common, and some people would try and see what different spirits feel like when they're being ridden. You could even have snobs, like wine snobs but for spiritual highs.
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pkfan2004 posted:To reiterate, I love how the groups in Spirit Slayers don't really know poo poo about werewolves. I really like the Illuminated Brotherhood. Are werewolves still Eco-warriors? If so you think that would be a natural point of comparison, since most of the heavy hippies I know are really into the protecting the Earth stuff. I love that in nWoD drugs really CAN make you see the spirit world. It seems nice and fair.
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Cythereal posted:It does depend on how you play them and the Mage cosmology in your game, though. It's entirely valid to say that the Knights are absolutely correct and they're basically good guys protecting the world from an evil far greater than that which they serve. The Cainite Heresy are also defensible, though being a genuine cult puts them in very uncomfortable waters for many players. The thing is that as somebody who doesn't know Werewolf cosmology, their beliefs make sense to me in terms of normal mythical and religious lore - spiritual possession and 'riding' is a real practice with a long history. So it makes sense that people would believe that. If the World of Darkness makes that a horrible idea, then that's where the horror comes in. The Onion shows us the true terror of Cliomancy. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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echopapa posted:Do you think the Yakuza started cutting off fingers in imitation of a boss who was an Epideromancer? Nope. The magic schools in UA (with one or two exceptions) are all modern. That Yakuza stuff is a tradition that would predate post-modern magick. Help a few of the schools in the core, like Videomancy, would be gone or almost gone if you were running a new game today. Though an Epidero who keeps cutting off fingers at imagined slights would be funny. That might explain that insane Takashi Miike movie with the sex changing and unbirthing and other yakuza insanity.
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quote:Notably, mechanomancers are the only adept who have multiple ways to get a major charge and are the only one who can produce a "renewable" major charge (the sanity sacrifice option, although honestly that one isn't nearly as harsh as the others to begin with so I'd probably disallow it in my games). Huh? The memory sacrifice is what makes Mechanomancers more than just a whacky steampunk school. You need to give up a part of YOURSELF to make your creatures. Is building your cool robot worth the memory of your wife's love? Also you need to play this song when making a Mechanomancer: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JaLjwSpZ6Cs The Narcos and Hunter's Acended Ones feel very similar, though the later are your typical WoD globe-trotting conspiracy. SPOILER: Pornomancers have the least fun of all!
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I'm more curious about how Nick Cave is still alive after all the drugs and, if his biography is accurate, car-surfing. That book (that focused on the early days of The Birthday Party and The Boys Next Door) also claims that he and Mick Harvey were so hosed up on drugs they spent a week speaking in a private language only they could understand, which would be a cool spell for either Narcos or Acending Ones. Make it so that even wizards can't understand it, only the people who take the drug. Can you use Shane McGowan's original teeth for some kind of Dipsomancy charge? Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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oriongates posted:I'm more referring to the mechanical effects of the sanity loss vs the Mind/Soul loss or the effort of finding and obtaining an appropriate historical artifact. Magick keys off Soul, and Mechanomancers probably need to be smart too, so they'd be handicapping themselves every time they build something big. I'd rather they be tempted to let the power corrupt them. And losing the memories is still a huge penalty in RP terms. I think Sanity notches are a good way to represent the changes in your personality that would cause. I mean a Dipso can go to rehab and an Epidero's scars will heal but they're still hosed up. Do Adepts have to know they're adepts? Or could Nick Cave think he's getting power from all his pretentious occult poo poo but it really comes from being a gently caress-up? I feel like this could be a fun basis for a character. I also feel like I could make a case for Nick Cave being every single Adept, but that would just be creepy. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Flavivirus posted:Adepts do - their paradox must be the lens through which they see the world. It's almost literally impossible for an adept to conceive of another path to magickal power working - their specific paradox is the one and only way the world works for them. I just think with common paradoxes like the ones powering Dipso, Entropo and Epideromancy you can gain and use Minor charges without knowing its magick. Things just work out if you're drunk, and you're always drunk. The adrenaline rush you get from surfing trains makes you invincible. Eventually someone else will notice and let you know what's going on and initiate you. So what I'm saying is, UA encourages self-destruction. 
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quote:They also have the Mark of the Beast - you see, Lucifer's power is far greater than any of his children, and the Lucifuge can call on that strength. It's not pleasant, but they can transform themselves, painfully, into immense demons. No two look the same or have the same features, but it's always bestial and demonic, and each hunter keeps the same one whenever they use this power. While transformed, they get boosted physical attributes, which ignore normal maximums, and may heal wounds of any type by spending 1 WP per wound, and get Armor 2/0. They cause terror in mortal witnesses, similar to Lunacy, and cannot remain long in this form. Any damage they suffer that exceeds their normal capacity does not carry over when they return to their normal form, but instead inflicts those wounds on the next person or thing they see before they fall unconscious. Any damage you cause in demonic form is always lethal unless it would be aggravated normally. After you revert, even if you don't immediately get knocked out from damage, you are exhausted and will be penalized until you get eight hours of sleep, as well as lessened resistance to degenerative insanity. And there's Dante's Devil Trigger! Why does it take 4 Dots to get that Acended Ones salve that slows down your perception of time and increases your combat effectiveness? There's cheaper ways to do that, if my experiments with Dark Souls are any indication.
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Crasical posted:Except for Ashwood Abbey. They're sorta more tolerable if seriously cut back on the rape and torture but I seriously would like to see the pitch for a coven of Abbey hunters who fit the bill of 'Whole-hearted good guys'. You can leave Ashwood as 'bored, rich thrill-seekers' but leave out the rape and murder. They're like rich kids who shoplift or deal drugs or go urban exploring. They've had a privileged life and now they want so excitement. So they shoot up vampire blood, smoke up spirits, go camping with werewolves and slumming with Slashers. YMMV, but from my point of view that makes them more sympathetic than The Long Night or half the other Pacts. Think art school kids slumming it. And leave in the evil version of the Abbey since they make such good villians. PantsOptional posted:Obama and/or Putin for Ghost loving Blood Orgy 2K15. Putin has hung out with Stephen Seagal and crazy biker rallies and posed shirtless with bears. A werewolf blood orgy would probably boost his popularity. Assuming they were good Russian wolves. Or werebears. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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Why? Some of the other good guy pacts are religious fundamentalists, repentant Nazis, and the bloodline of Lucifer. 'Rich thrill-seekers' don't sound so bad. Annoying, but not bad. Though if you want to go the redemption route, pair them with The Union (the best, most underrated Pact).
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Since noted Communist China Mieville is the best steampunk author, you're not wrong. Mors, please tell me the Union section has one of Marx's quotes about 'vampire capital'. Remember that a quarter the schools in the UA corebook would be out of date now as magickal fashion changes. There's a constant stream of new ones on the website and some are decent. Once we get into Avatars than your mind will really be blown. Trollman isn't an adept, he's a small-time Demogogue wanna be. quote:The bonus material is that NetZo is really on the verge of becoming a full-blown conspiracy. They're global, clandestine and pioneers of the New Media. The main things they need are organization and operations. Conspiracies have leaders, 99% of the time. They're top down. Someone will have to run the show. Their operations will need to be picked up - their own satellite, maybe, to piggyback on all kinds of transmissions. They'll need more people, too. And they'll need a more potent Endowment. Which the game provides. When was this written? Because Network Zero is missing it's Wikileaks - the guys who hack vampire bank accounts and Cherion Group board minutes, then release them. It's impossible to make Julian Assange MORE of a White Wolf character, so leave a gap for the PCs to do that. It's also missing Anonymous, who wear cheap Van Helsing masks and provide IT and hacking support to whatever Union op catches their fancy. I was going to say it needs an Alex Jones, but in the World of Darkness he would have been killed when he tried to crash an Ashwood Abbey party. The Union is how I imagine the default Hunters to be, and if my group were Supernatural fans I'd probably make them the only group at the start, with the others as antagonists, at least at the very start. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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Who's going to review Varg Vikernes' Mythic Fantasy Roleplaying Game? It's been awhile since this thread reviewed something really offensive.
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Optional rule: Mask of the Beast masks must act like the animal masks in Hotline Miami. Yes, you can seriously hurt somebody by opening a door: Personomancers are one of those Adepts that would make the real world make MORE sense if they existed. It'd give a concrete reason for those people who spend years pretending to be other random people online. Or you can use it to play Hedwig & the Angry Inch. Or Elvis. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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I really don't want to derail the thread, but the 'white woman passes as black enough to become NAACP' official' story is all over my Facebook feed, and that's gotta be at least a Significant Personomancer charge? Also, somebody please review the Varg Vikernes RPG. We make fun of John Wick for being an rear end in a top hat GM, but he never burned down churches or killed anyone. The Bibliomancer stuff all seems really normal to me, but it doesn't impact my life. I do feel an actual taboo against destroying books - I can overcome it, but the idea inspires visceral revulsion in me. And I've got a bunch of books I'll never read, but doesn't everyone? And it doesn't impact my life, except when I need to move or something. quote:The Beauty Jar (5 dots) contains the severed head of buxom 50s starlet Jayne Mansfield. She died in a car crash, age 34, when a truck swerved to avoid another truck. Her decapitation is said to be a myth, but that is itself a myth to cover up that her head was stolen by a mad doctor hoping to reanimate an undead bride. The Aegis stepped in and took it back. The head itself is well-preserved in a brine-filled jar, but the hair is rotten and resembles seaweed. To use it takes a lot of willpower, plus it curses your driving skills. What you do is drink from the brine, which will mystically reproduce itself over a few days. This grants Fame 3, Striking Looks 4 and the ability to use any social skill as if you were trained at it. Your body becomes intensely attractive, lasting until you kiss someone. That's the only way to end the power. The kiss is profoundly foul, tasting of bug repellent, rot and brine. You're going to destroy your relationship with whoever you kiss, too, giving a mutual social penalty to each other for a month. This reads like an Unknown Armies artifact. I think it's the use of a semi-obscure celebrity. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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I don't think I've ever spent $1000 at once, but that's because I don't have it.AmiYumi posted:I get it slightly better now, it's just that the first image I had was that scene in Boiler Room where they go over to the raking-in-the-cash stockbroker's apartment, and it's empty other than like one couch and a bunch of crates. "I'm still moving in." I've known that guy; I think any of us with enough friends have known that guy. That's why it doesn't seem weird enough to me. Half the Adepts are 'normal', though. There's a shitload of alcoholics and self-harmers and book nerds and drug dealers in the world. Part of what makes it so potent is the idea that maybe that weird guy everyone knows might be on to something (which also makes it disturbing and hosed up). Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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So, TCC goons.
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I think Obsessions need to define your life. I know a guy who wears $500 Internet jeans and it barely impacts his life. Pen goons need one of those mini-schools on the website. Paradox: You spend $1000 on pens, but you never write anything. Blast: The pen is mightier. A spell where you can make somebody unable to type. No phones, no computers - you need to use a pen on paper. And then some Death Note poo poo I guess. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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darthbob88 posted:Pretty sure you did miss something, because Dipsos do get charges from both, with rare booze being more powerful than rare cups. Personally, I justify that kind of thing on game mechanics, because it provides an intermediate between a minor charge for a Bud light and a large charge for Pope Pius II's sacramental wine, and because it means significant charges are a renewable resource, same as for most adepts. Alternatively I suppose they could have done like Bibliophiles and made a significant charge dependent on getting a moderately-rare limited edition booze, like small-run whiskey or vintage wine. But I thought Sig charges needed to be hard to get. "I need to go on eBay" or "the party is forced to use a fancy whisky bar as its base of operations" don't strike me as very arduous. And there's no way a Bud Light is even a minor charge, since the rules say it has to actually be booze. Could you do a Dipso variant for coffee snobs? I'm not thrilled by Cherion Group's big secret. I think "shady biotech company harvests monsters" is good enough, especially if they're actually in it for the good of the world (and profit), despite what most people think. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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