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AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Forgot to note that you can add another notch to the "copies of Beyond the Wall sold thanks to your review" tally. This one's probably the least shameful of my F&F-inspired purchases, considering that the previous additions to my library have been Double Cross (which I can't get anyone to play) and CthulhuTech (which is easy to find players for, and difficult to find THE RIGHT players for).

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AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Night10194 posted:

What's been your problem finding players for Double Cross, exactly?
Too crunchy for the anime fans, too anime for the groggy crunch fans. I could probably assemble a group by public recruiting instead of pitching friends, but I like sticking with people I know. :shrug:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:



Duckman! A Duckman RPG! It's a bizarre, poorly bound, badly edited game by a fly-by-night company called Fantasy Strike Games, full of ludicrous rules dedicated solely to hindering every other player for your own small benefits.
How is this not an April Fool's post

I don't have time to listen to it right now, but I still don't believe this exists

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Esser-Z posted:

Approps of nothing, I started listening to System Mastery last week. I am really, really enjoying it!
Same, I actually went through your whole backlog as "things to listen to while cooking". Now I'm up to date, and keep having to fall back on the episode about MAID. :ohdear:

(I just listened to the most recent Afterthought about an hour or two ago, while throwing together eggplant and bell peppers in a miso/soy/xiaoxing sauce. Both were delightful.)

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:

I love that my copy of Skyrealms is signed because it was a gift from the author to my girlfriend's aunt, who he was dating in the 80s. I'm tenuously connected to greatness!

Also that he had apparently completely internalized his game and said stuff like "Hesitate and you're scragger bait" in public.
Heeeeyyy speaking of, the download link on yr blog for the Skyrealms of Jorune episode is dead. Streaming still works, and I can confirm that all of the other download links (including the video ones and Horror reviews) work.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Looks like I'm about to have another t-shirt I don't even try to explain to anyone. :shepspends:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Tasoth posted:

I do agree the that WoD is not a good place to put any kind of magical girl game, even if they have grown up. But I think exploring the choice to keep fighting the war you did as a child or give it up for the handful of things that make the world really matter to you could lead to some interesting stories. Especially if you leverage the Things That Matter into sources of drama and extra reserves. Do you choose to die for something you believed in as a child or do you give up and live out your life with the things you've come to truly care about?
I can't tell if you're describing Metal Gear Solid on purpose or not, but Raiden is the best magical girl.

Nessus posted:

Also I'm gonna post about NIGHTBANE, the Palladium RPG, later. Believe that.
I've played this once. I randomly rolled up a stoner were-cockroach, with the power to explode into a swarm of hundreds of normal cockroaches. Another player was some sort of dog-headed Leatherface cyborg. What a wonderful game.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:



Anime-free shenanigans time! Enjoy our dumb Afterthought 6th episode where we manage to stay on the planned topic for about three minutes, then veer off for an hour of reflavoring the Hamburglar and inventing Mr. Bucket-style toys. Oh and answering your questions. And shilling for our new t-shirts, which are incidentally at our TeePublic Store now, where they are on sale for the next three days.
:neckbeard: Yay, one of my questions made it! And went to a horrifying Weekend At Bernie's direction! :neckbeard:

Time to go buy a Cheese Dudes shirt.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:

Hey I know this is a thousand pages old but what's in the MAID episode you like so much? The source material? Our guest host? The examples of play skits? I'm just researching for methods to improve the show in future episodes and that one has been really popular in terms of downloads and so on.

Was it the Double Lolita Crunch?
I was partly joking, because that's one of 2-3 episodes I have saved and listen to, and I just picked the one that was...well, MAID. I'm not sure exactly what it is; the guest chemistry is really good, it's a game I'm familiar with but is definitely niche and weird enough that you covering it makes perfect sense, it's either the first or second of your podcasts I listened to, and as much as I like getting a good Two Minutes Hate session about a game there's something satisfying about hearing you talk about a part of a system that you enjoyed (even moreso than the usual Q/A at the end). It's like a Chinese epic; all of the disparate elements that should fight for attention managed to somehow combine into a greater whole.

It's also nice to hear someone else agree with my opinion that MAID suffers from the "I want to play/run this but am automatically suspicious/disgusted with anyone else who would play this" problem.

...I'm going to try to order a Double Lolita Crunch next time I end up at a Taco Bell.

theironjef posted:

Nice! Let me know how it looks when it gets there. Haven't seen one in person myself yet.
I remembered right after ordering that the cat threw up on my horse mask and I had to toss it out. Now how will I anonymize my selfies for the internet?

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Ah yes, the ever-so-useful "here's a bunch of :words: about this race, individual members of which do not actually follow these :words: about the race, thanks for the money you dumb fuckers" splatbook.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Xelkelvos posted:

Watanabe Eriko of some TVTroper fiction called Saga of Soul (this took me a little bit to find it since there's an actress with the same name)
Well, guess we know who one of the authors/editors was. "No, really, my fanfiction is the best example of this archetype that has been present in every anime released in the past decade! It absolutely deserves a mention in this book!"

I went to his :tvtropes: page and clicked on what I thought was another work of his with an interesting title. It turned out to be an obscenely-long Sailor Moon/Dungeon Keeper fanfic. I then said "ugh" aloud to no one in particular but my cat.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:

Put the shirt on your traitorous cat.

Putting the shirt on was the easy part. Turns out, getting a cat to wear a shirt long enough to take a picture when the cat wants out? Kinda difficult.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Has anyone ever covered the oWoD Strike Force Zero book? Because it was goofy as hell, and made for a fun-rear end game.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:

We always do terrible at the anime questions, because neither of us really follows it all that much, so we can maybe name like 10 shows between us. It's not surprising there's already a Tenchi Muyo one though.
Yeah, as the person who asked the question, it seems appropriate to mention that GoO put out a Tenchi Muyo! RPG, a Tenchi Universe supplement, a Sailor Moon RPG, and a Demon City Shinjuku RPG of all things IIRC? I own the first three, and would've taken a picture if they weren't in a box forever (because who am I ever going to find who would want to play those?).

Don't know about High School of the Dead or Kill la Kill, but there is an Apocalypse World hack for Attack on Titan that seems pretty good.

Was kind of hoping the multi-part question would trip one of you up enough to blank out and end up explaining why "Tentacle☆Panty Fighter: City of Violence" would be the best RPG.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Alien Rope Burn posted:

I can't imagine you'd need a special system for High School of the Dead other than rules for interrupting a scene randomly every XdX minutes to roll lovely fanservice. Roll for body or parts (boobs, butt, nape), the effect (bounce, twist, squish), and the special effects table. Then feel lovely and embarrassed and try to get on with your game.
Hell, just make the "erotic dice" from The Simpsons into an actual game mechanic. Gamers love dice! :downs:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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theironjef posted:



Noumenon is far and away the best game we've ever read that has the premise of soul-infused insect men aimlessly wandering the metaphysical hallways of an extradimensional mansion with a goofy name.
Every time you guys mentioned The Nine Enigmas, all I could think of was replacing it with the Seven Mysteries*. Just a bunch of bug-men exploring a high school, counting the number of steps between floors and meeting toilet ghosts, and just not even giving the slightest of fucks because they're bug-men and this stuff isn't even scary to teenagers.

*sorry for the TV Tropes, but it's a Japanese thing so of course that's what Google brings up

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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I legitimately don't understand why Plutomancers are supposed to be weird or "out-there" enough to get magic power. I don't get a "crazy outsider" or even a "scary manipulator" vibe off of them, I get a "this is what wide swathes of the US actually believe" vibe. That merits magickal powerz, for some reason?

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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I get it slightly better now, it's just that the first image I had was that scene in Boiler Room where they go over to the raking-in-the-cash stockbroker's apartment, and it's empty other than like one couch and a bunch of crates. "I'm still moving in." I've known that guy; I think any of us with enough friends have known that guy. That's why it doesn't seem weird enough to me.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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I hate to be critical again, but the Pornomancer seems like a case of death-by-editor. Like, the central paradox of pornography is so easy, why do you even need all the "Naked Goddess cult" poo poo? Guys who are so obsessed with porn that they don't understand actual sex is a legit problem in the real world.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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RE: Alignments in Nightspawn/Nightbane, I remember the codes of conduct being weirdly restrictive on behavior even for alignment systems. Like, I was trying to create my character as an ambivalent pothead teenager; mostly just uninterested and selfish but not Disney Evil or anything. The GM and I basically went back-and-forth before mostly giving up on where that'd place me.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Cheese Dudes: Is Movie Mastery a backer-only kind of thing? I couldn't find it on my podcast feeds and I need to hear you guys rip apart Master of Disguise - I love that dumb film.
It's up on their website, just in a different feed.

Speaking of which, can I put in a recommendation for Attack the Gas Station!? It's Korean, I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix, and from what I remember it's weird and funny.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Scrolling down was a fun double-take of "is that a lovingly-detailed erection?" :psyduck:

Doresh posted:


Next Time: The classes, as well as time to make an example character. I'm thinking of a brooding emo with a zipper fetish and a pretentious name, like "Nimbus Zippioso Kupoire".
If the system can handle it, go full-meta; make a Hyperdimension Neptunia character. I don't think they've done anything with the 3DO or the Atari Jaguar yet?

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Doresh posted:

And one of the more recent games feature an absurdly powerful evil CPU called Blue Heart / Rei Whatshername from the destroyed land of Tari. No idea what Atari console she's supposed to be, though.
I just watched the episodes of the anime with her in them tonight while having dinner*, and she talked about living through "The Great Crash". Sooo...2600/5200, probably?
*combo of laziness and poo poo taste; the disc was already in the BD player when I sat down

Doresh posted:

I'd personally make one based on the CD-I.
I legitimately forgot that even existed. :golfclap:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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The Lone Badger posted:

I figure, when you're someone like that you don't need to actually buy things. You just put it in your contract that you will be supplied with everything you want.
I wish I could remember who it was exactly, but a restaurant owner I know had to call the cops on an actress ~15 years back who came in with her whole entourage, racked up a couple thousand $ bill, and then just started to leave. The very idea of having to pay for things instead of getting everything comp'd never crossed her mind. :psyduck:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Doresh posted:

Indeed. It's character growth in every sense of the word. I wonder how that idea could work in a D&D campaign ("The reason you don't see any goblin weaponmasters around is because those actually turn into giants or trolls. Or hobgoblins, depending on their training and personality.")

(Though some monsters actuall get smaller, like the Thunderbird or the Faerie).
This is literally how Gygax's D&D game worked, according to the stories about Sir Fang. A skeleton levels up into a zombie, which becomes a ghoul at level three, which...

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Doresh posted:

3. A class system calling itself something different, like "profession" or "career".
4. The wizard careers/professions will of course be able to do anything the others can, only better.
Hey now, if we're trying to be truly awful here, the route to go is:
3a: Classes only determine the point cost/rank of skills, and their max ranks by level
3b: Meaning, every class has a table that lists every single skill
3c: Lots of typos and "design decisions" that are indistinguishable from typos

4a: Every spell is its own skill
4b: Combat is also handled via skills, but every class has the same cap on attack/defense skills so going Fighter is a dead-end
4c: Wizards get more skill points "because they have spells", but no restrictions on how they spend those points

Ugh, I'm not even sure which system(s) I'm making fun of anymore. This hurts.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Kavak posted:

Okay, I'm sorry for being a late arrival to the podcast, but where did Cheese Dudes start?
The Okeefenokee Swamp, if I recall correctly. :haw:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Strange as it was to hear my professional name bandied about on System Mastery, then transformed into a verb* and put to song, you did my too-complicated "literally-came-to-me-in-a-dream" question all the justice it deserved.

*as far as I am aware it actually translates to "ostrich"

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Maybe I just had a bad experience (as a player), but I remember the Exalted MA charm trees going "thing I actually want > dumb conditional thing I will never use but need in order to get: > improved version of charm #1 that means I will never use the lower-level version again" and so on.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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It also had that weird problem a couple of WW lines at the times had, where "oh, we just won't put Aggravated Damage in the Corebook, that'll keep things from turning into a meatgrinder!" was followed by every proceeding book getting a sidebar of "this attack does a new harder-to-take kind of damage called Aggravated Damage, here's the same explanation you've read dozens of times now:".

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Am I the only one that *really* liked the side details in Aeon/Trinity? Like, the bits about the chambers that make Psions not quite functioning right, because they were made according to alien specifications and have been running p much non-stop for decades, or the Aberrants of that era following different rules because the background radiation is different, or (especially) the Qin bodysuits being rainbow monstrosities because they were going off of black-and-white TV signals? :haw:

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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FMguru posted:

It had a really detailed and convoluted metaplot, none of which was explained in the core book. If you actually wanted to run a game in the Trinity setting, you had to wait and buy a dozen $25 supplement books before you had enough of an idea of what was really going on to successfully run a game there.

Like so many late-90s era games, Trinity was just a bare skeleton to hang a series of not-really-all-that-optional sourcebooks onto.
Not to white-knight a long-dead game, but the official WW site had a "The Story" section for STs that not only broke down and spoiled the whole metaplot, it actually went further than the actual published material (I just skimmed through it again and saw references to books that never got written and events that never got explained outside of that section). They put it in the back of the softcover/2nd printing of the core book, IIRC.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Doresh posted:

It is for this reason that meikyo armours are not piloted by a noble lord and his retainers, but by their underaged children, for only they are innocent and sheltered enough to have an insignificant amount of Karma. Still, gaining Karma is part of human life (especially when you're killing people by the hundreds as a giant death machine), and most Riders don't even get past their teenager phase before the mirror rejects them.

(If your going by the the artwork, pretty much all meikyo Riders are girls. I guess the boys are busy taking bushido lessons or something.)

Before the schism, it was normal for these teenagers to just move on with their life.
I remember, when I read the book, really digging on this setting detail; it's not just that the pilots are children, it's that the pilots are children deliberately raised in the most sheltered, naive, "us good, other guy bad" way possible in a effort to keep them functioning as child soldiers as long as possible. Of course, eventually they get too old (or see too much of the real world), at which point the little emotionally-retarded sociopath just gets cut loose and shoved into society at large. I think it's even one of the suggested character types.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Comrade Koba posted:

You should have the Podcat as a guest host on your next episode. Can't wait to hear its in-depth opinions on all the Immortal craziness. :allears:
Just have a Guest Afterthought, starring Podcat and The Dog That Denies The Holocaust.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Doresh posted:

As the only thing with a Western setting, the book also recommends Valkyria Chronicles for its character-driven drama during a TBZ war campaign. Actually, playing Valkyria Chronicles with Kongohki and Armours would be rad.
Soooo...Valkyria Chronicles II, then? :v:

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AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

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Alien Rope Burn posted:

The other example goes back into the :sigh: Houses of the Blooded LARP he runs. There was a time when some folks wanted to poke in a ruin for artifacts, but he invoked dire peril because they were "poorly equipped" and they backed off. He talks about a regular player he has who decided for a change of place to play a duellist that hated sorcerers. (In the setting, sorcery is illegal, but everybody does it anyway, because sorcery is rad.) So she duels and kills them. Then she finds out the character she's working under is a profilic sorcerer, and when she goes after him, John walks around after holding up a sign that said Dire Peril. And I guess people were cowed and it was awesome and stuff, and she cuts a few people down (who volunteered to be cut down in that scene, we're told).
Wow. Wick's actually managed to weaponize ":reject: No, your character doesn't do that :reject:", combine it with ":smuggo: my DMPC is so awesome you guys totally back down and now I shall narrate what happens instead :smuggo:", and figured out a way to accomplish both without even having to put in the slightest effort to justify it in-game. I know the WoD bit was pretty obnoxious and unfun, but this here is the pure-strain Wick.

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