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If Ochiai was willing to just gently caress off and not gently caress with Sidonia they probably would have let him go be a transhumanist hybrid demigod for as long as he wanted.
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Kanos posted:If Ochiai was willing to just gently caress off and not gently caress with Sidonia they probably would have let him go be a transhumanist hybrid demigod for as long as he wanted. He tended to plan for the long term, and was probably worried about Sidonia's descendents surpassing him thousands of years in the future and threatening his immortality. Or he's just a jerk.
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Aug 31, 2015 21:38
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Ochiai's a jerk but he was a pragmatic jerk, and probably would've let sidonia be if it was possible. But, as proven by Tanikaze, humans are super loving dangerous and good at killing
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Sep 1, 2015 02:56
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Didn't Ochiai kill off like 99.99999999% of Sidonia's original population in his mad quest to become the ultimate being? I think you guys are giving him way too much credit for being sane and rational.
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Hypocrisy posted:Didn't Ochiai kill off like 99.99999999% of Sidonia's original population in his mad quest to become the ultimate being? Yeah, the reason everyone hates him is that his experiments somehow (forget how exactly) resulted in drawing Gauna to Sidonia, killing off most of its population.
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Sep 1, 2015 04:14
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I have to wonder what his ultimate plan even is. Become the greatest evolution of humanity, pat self on back, then . . . float endlessly and alone through space?
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, the reason everyone hates him is that his experiments somehow (forget how exactly) resulted in drawing Gauna to Sidonia, killing off most of its population. He thought the Gauna were chasing the Kabi, or that the Kabi could be used to kill his chimera, so he threw them off the ship. One Gauna didn't take the bait, attacked the defenseless Sidonia and killed all but 500 people in the few minutes it took Tanikaze 1.0 to kill Ochiai and retrieve the Kabi. Xy Hapu posted:I have to wonder what his ultimate plan even is. Become the greatest evolution of humanity, pat self on back, then . . . float endlessly and alone through space? He would have made a clone to pat himself on the back.
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, the reason everyone hates him is that his experiments somehow (forget how exactly) resulted in drawing Gauna to Sidonia, killing off most of its population. As Avulsion said, he didn't draw the Gauna, he stripped Sidonia of its only viable defenses at the time by stealing the Kabi. Before he did that there's no indication that Sidonia would have really given a gently caress about him turning himself into goopy monster man and loving off to do his own thing, but dude has a huge ego problem and didn't like the concept that a weapon that could theoretically kill hybrids was still in the hands of others. Incidentally, he repeated the exact same cycle of his first death with the Kunato brainjack; he developed a super awesome nearly invincible hybrid to download his brain into, decided that he really didn't want to leave anyone around with the ability to conceivably harm him, and went unprovoked attempted genocidal murder rampage yet again on Sidonia to attempt to eliminate any possible competition(and got murdered by the son of the person who murdered him the first time). Dude is his own worst enemy.
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Sep 1, 2015 06:44
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Is there still one more issue or is that it???
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Sep 2, 2015 21:03
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One more at the end of the month.
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Sep 3, 2015 01:27
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What a bad cop out ending
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Sep 19, 2015 18:59
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Relin posted:What a bad cop out ending Is 78 out yet?
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Sep 19, 2015 19:29
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In Japan, yes
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Sep 19, 2015 19:41
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Sep 20, 2015 17:26
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Did the series get canceled on short notice or something? I don't understand why it's ending like this when there were so many interesting directions it could have gone in that were set up by the author.
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Sep 20, 2015 19:39
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He forgot many plot points, as well. Once you've read enough manga you'll come to peace with the fact that Japanese simply can't write endings
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Relin posted:He forgot many plot points, as well. Once you've read enough manga you'll come to peace with the fact that Japanese simply can't write endings Look I know the ending was lovely but there's no need for casual racism in light of that.
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Sep 20, 2015 22:23
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Relin posted:He forgot many plot points, as well. Once you've read enough manga you'll come to peace with the fact that Japanese simply can't write endings Instead of generalizing the writing of an entire nation, have you considered you have poo poo taste?
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There Bias Two posted:Look I know the ending was lovely but there's no need for casual racism in light of that. Relin fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 23:08
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Relin posted:i wouldn't call it racism, but i'll walk that back a bit and admit that it only applies to manga/anime. japanese movies and novels i've read have had satisfactory endings Then you genuinely have a poor understanding of how racism works, no offense meant. Has anyone found a translation yet?
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Sep 20, 2015 23:21
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Nihei has incredibly strong concepts and imagery. Generally every series he's done has been more coherent and better-plotted than the last, but seriously, this again? Didn't Biomega and Abara also have very abrupt endings that barely made sense?
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Sep 21, 2015 15:20
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Pierson posted:Nihei has incredibly strong concepts and imagery. Generally every series he's done has been more coherent and better-plotted than the last, but seriously, this again? Didn't Biomega and Abara also have very abrupt endings that barely made sense? All his series get canceled but sidonia was pretty popular which makes this weird.
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Sep 21, 2015 19:56
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Maybe the fact all his other series got cancelled means he hasn't had a chance to actually write a proper ending before and just doesn't know how?
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Sep 26, 2015 06:39
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Maybe he knows he can't write endings, and he expected it to get canceled after he wrote the romance between the protagonist and the giant man-eating alien dick slug.
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Sep 26, 2015 12:58
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Relin posted:i wouldn't call it racism, but i'll walk that back a bit and admit that it only applies to manga/anime.
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Sep 26, 2015 14:05
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Anime and manga flub the landing more then most other media. But: Most anime is an adaptation of an ongoing work and thus, they gotta just stop when they run out of material or episodes in their run. Manga getting cancelled with 3 chapters to wrap everything up is pretty common. A lot of my favorite shows of all time have rushed endings (escaflowne), great but downer endings (cowboy bebop), or a conclusion that leaves me scratching my head because while it logically might fit in with events it's a total 180 on the tone of the show (gurren laggan). Even with those examples, some of my other favorites like GitS: SAC's second season has a great ending, as does gunbuster and diebuster (being the same ending from two different points of view). Until I read the last chapter I'm not going to stress out about sidonia, and I don't think the author is going to do anything in his last set of pages that will invalidate what happened before
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Sep 26, 2015 15:12
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As long as it doesn't end as badly as GANTZ, but that's in incredibly low bar.
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Sep 26, 2015 15:15
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I honestly can't remember the last American tv series i watched that had a satisfying ending, so the problem is p. much universal.
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HenryEx posted:I honestly can't remember the last American tv series i watched that had a satisfying ending, so the problem is p. much universal. It's really not, not in the same sense. It's not a question of race though, it's serialization. That can be a week to week month to month kind of deal. TV shows generally get block or year reups. 13 episodes, 24, whatever. They have a point to start and aim toward, no matter what else can happen. Sometimes they bet they'll get another renewal and it doesn't come through and *that* screws the story, but by and large they have a larger assumed workload to design a story around. If you are 3 chapters into what you assumed would be just another arc and you get the notice "Yeah, you are done, we'll give you a few pity chapters to wrap things up" even the best storyteller could have trouble spinning that into gold. And then the converse problem, where you make something popular and you are encouraged to just keep writing it long after you've lost all natural interest, which you do because you like having health care and a place to sleep, and then when it finally comes time to end it you just don't have the spark in you to craft something satisfying. Those are both problems tv can deal with too, they are just much less likely to have that problem due to the format and assumptions involved. It's just a problem with short turn around fiction, period.
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Sep 26, 2015 22:32
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Japanese people end series like THIS and white people end series like thiiis
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I haven't heard about any anime getting canceled 3 episodes in yet, so i'm not sure it's applicable here.Anatharon posted:Japanese people end series like THIS and white people end series like thiiis What about white Japanese people
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Sep 26, 2015 22:55
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Is the ending out so I can judge for myself.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:23
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I expect that another season of the anime will get a different and/or proper ending anyway. Relax.
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HenryEx posted:I honestly can't remember the last American tv series i watched that had a satisfying ending, so the problem is p. much universal. Breaking Bad and Parks and Recreation both had great endings.
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Sep 27, 2015 02:47
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Hey remember that guy who made it about race but "wouldn't call it racism," and now the topic's about race and inferior storytelling? Yeah, don't do what that guy did.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Hey remember that guy who made it about race but "wouldn't call it racism," and now the topic's about race and inferior storytelling? but im a wizened corpse how will i change my ways?
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Sep 27, 2015 06:21
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we can learn a lot from this author who ends his sci fi series with the heroine complaining about her breast size
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Sep 27, 2015 09:45
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Relin posted:we can learn a lot from this author who ends his sci fi series with the heroine complaining about her breast size
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i think i voted this thread a 5 but this last chapter is so bad i might have to switch it edit misread above post
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It's as if we were all watching a somewhat decent play, when suddenly all the actors paused halfway through the second act to unleash wet farts at the audience as the curtain fell.
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