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Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

cenotaph posted:

One episode I love that I don't think has been mentioned yet is the one with the trailer park vampires where both Mulder and Scully recount differing versions of events.
Luke Wilson's character being all dashing and dreamy in Scully's version and a dimwitted backwater hick cop in Mulder's is the best.

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Octy
Apr 1, 2010

mobby_6kl posted:

I hear the NSA is hiring.

Yeah, I don't think they'd hire a dirty foreigner like me.

Vogon Poet posted:

Probably the first time I've seen someone call "Space" and "Ghost in the Machine" "great episodes." Really, although some late season episodes were worse, I'd probably call "Space" the dullest of the show's entire run.

Well, they're the ones I remember above episodes like Conduit or even the Pilot. I think you must be exaggerating, though, because there were some pretty boring episodes later in the show's run.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Wizchine posted:

I watched the show off and on in the first season, but The Host from the start of season 2 is what got me hooked. The ending shot was just perfectly creepy.

I never cared much for the arc shows - that poo poo was confusing and never made much sense. I think they made a major mistake by making the 1st movie part of the arc, instead of a standalone monster of the week. If they had done a MotW movie, it would have been much more successful, and the X-Files would have spawned a string of movies after the TV run was done, much like Star Trek.

The 1st movie provided enough of a set up that someone without a full understanding of the mytharc could still enjoy. And it did well enough in the box office that it could have launched a movie series. In fact, the plan was pretty much to end the show after season 7 and continue in a series of movies. But then pretty much ALL fox dramas bombed and fox owned the rights, so they kept going with seasons 8 and 9. By the end of season 9 not only had the viewership fallen dramatically from the end of season 7, but Chris Carter also sued Fox for residuals and so on. They already had the second movie written, but lawsuit essentially put it on hold for some 5 years. So the plan was to do like star trek, but Fox's failures and Carter's lawsuit stopped them. And then the fiasco of the second movie ended whatever hope of a film series.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Stare-Out posted:

Luke Wilson's character being all dashing and dreamy in Scully's version and a dimwitted backwater hick cop in Mulder's is the best.

It's double great because Mulder includes it as a vampire trait in his long list, and by the end of the episode you can tell he's realized it.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av
That Luke Wilson episode was glorious, I'd forgotten all about that.

We need a list if all the stand alone funny episodes like that, I'd like to show my wife some of this show & that would be a good way to introduce it.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
I may forgotten a few, but going through the list of episodes, here's the funny, or at least lighthearted, ones:
"Humbug"
"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose"
"War of the Coprophages"
"Jose Chung's From Outer Space"
"Small Potatoes"
"The Post-Modern Prometheus"
"Bad Blood"
"Arcadia"
Dreamland 1 and 2
"The Unnatural"
"The Goldberg Variation"
"The Amazing Maleeni"
"X-Cops"
"Hollywood A.D."
"Je Souhaite"

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

joepinetree posted:

I may forgotten a few, but going through the list of episodes, here's the funny, or at least lighthearted, ones:

"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose"

The funniest bit being the prediction of Mulder's death.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Don't forget Humbug (Season 2). I'm pretty sure that was the first episode I ever saw.

e: that got edited in after I posted :colbert:

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

colonel_korn posted:

Don't forget Humbug (Season 2). I'm pretty sure that was the first episode I ever saw.

e: that got edited in after I posted :colbert:

I had forgotten humbug and arcadia.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

Mister Kingdom posted:

The funniest bit being the prediction of Mulder's death.

Holy poo poo I just remembered this.

:ohdear: "Um, I guess it means asphyxiation while in a car," said my aunt to a 13yo me.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

SlaveTrader posted:

I was under the impression that the any of the Grey's could shapeshift( See: The Unnatural ). The whole covering over the eyes and mouth didn't make a drat bit of sense either since we saw the black oil crawl through skin.

I assume that they would have plugged the pores in their skin as well. Ick.

I tend to think that the X-Files mythology makes sense in broader strokes, and there are quite a few mythology episodes I really enjoy, but you tend to have to isolate them from other episodes to work. I really love The Red And The Black, but Mulder's material in that episode doesn't remotely jibe with how he's been for the rest of the season. He's given up on the X-files? Bullshit, he was totally into vampires three weeks ago!

Kindjal
Dec 10, 2003

Time to let go. Follow me.
Does anyone else remember Fox reairing a handful of episodes with some minor cut footage added back in and promoting it as X Files: UNCUT AND RAW or something, probably around '97-98 or so? Maybe I just imagined it or confused it with something else, but I could swear they hyped a rerun of Die Hand Die Verletzt as part of it, although I can't recall what parts were supposedly added/extended.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


joepinetree posted:

I may forgotten a few, but going through the list of episodes, here's the funny, or at least lighthearted, ones:
"Humbug"
"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose"
"War of the Coprophages"
"Jose Chung's From Outer Space"
"Small Potatoes"
"The Post-Modern Prometheus"
"Bad Blood"
"Arcadia"
Dreamland 1 and 2
"The Unnatural"
"The Goldberg Variation"
"The Amazing Maleeni"
"X-Cops"
"Hollywood A.D."
"Je Souhaite"

I'd add "Triangle", "Monday" and "The Rain King" to that list as well, but it looks pretty complete to me from what I've watched. I've been working my way through the whole series for the last few months. I already know the show ends with a lot of loose ends since I saw the finale when it aired, but watching almost everything else for the first time has still been a pretty great experience. I just finished season 7 and the show definitely starts to decline in quality. I know people bag on "all things" and "First Person Shooter" but I think "Fight Club" takes the cake for worst X-Files episode (until something in the last two seasons changes my opinion). As far as favorites go I'm surprised nobody mentioned "The Pine Bluff Variant," where Mulder goes undercover with a domestic terrorist group.

UnknownMercenary fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Jan 25, 2014

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

UnknownMercenary posted:

I'd add "Triangle", "Monday" and "The Rain King" to that list as well, but it looks pretty complete to me from what I've watched. I've been working my way through the whole series for the last few months. I already know the show ends with a lot of loose ends since I saw the finale when it aired, but watching almost everything else for the first time has still been a pretty great experience. I just finished season 7 and the show definitely starts to decline in quality. I know people bag on "all things" and "First Person Shooter" but I think "Fight Club" takes the cake for worst X-Files episode (until something in the last two seasons changes my opinion). As far as favorites go I'm surprised nobody mentioned "The Pine Bluff Variant," where Mulder goes undercover with a domestic terrorist group.

I was just about to mention The Pine Bluff Variant. From top to bottom it is one of the most thrilling episodes.

Darkness Falls, from season 1, is one of my personal favorites that hasn't been mentioned yet. That was the one where they investigated the disappearance of an entire logging crew in Washington state, who, come to find out, were killed by a swarm of nocturnal insects that previously laid dormant in a tree for 60 years. Cut off from the outside world with no transportation and low fuel, Mulder and Scully were forced to stay awake and alive in the light with the owner of the logging company, a forest ranger played by Jason Beghe (Richard Bates from Californication, and star of Chicago P.D.), and an environmentalist played by Titus Welliver (the Man in Black from LOST, and guest star in pretty much everything since the early 90's.) I didn't even remember this episode existed until I did a re-watch a couple years ago, and it was a nice surprise.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
I have a fondness for "Firewalker." The mushroom throatgasm is memorable and a creepy. It's maybe a little slow, but it stuck with me as sort of a fever-dream of an episode.

I thought "The Gift" was memorable as well, even though it came in season 8.

"Synchrony," too. That one was sad and haunting.

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joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

UnknownMercenary posted:

I'd add "Triangle", "Monday" and "The Rain King" to that list as well, but it looks pretty complete to me from what I've watched. I've been working my way through the whole series for the last few months. I already know the show ends with a lot of loose ends since I saw the finale when it aired, but watching almost everything else for the first time has still been a pretty great experience. I just finished season 7 and the show definitely starts to decline in quality. I know people bag on "all things" and "First Person Shooter" but I think "Fight Club" takes the cake for worst X-Files episode (until something in the last two seasons changes my opinion). As far as favorites go I'm surprised nobody mentioned "The Pine Bluff Variant," where Mulder goes undercover with a domestic terrorist group.

Trust no 1 is by far the worst episode of the series, in my opinion. It is a fairly boring and nonsensical story, but what pushes it over the edge is that it is essentially is set up for Scully to lament how she misses Mulder, while trying to get people to watch by suggesting that maybe Duchovny would appear. Not to mention the latest idea in the mess that was the mytharc: magnetite!

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
I'm going through my first watch. I'm at Season 4.


I saw the infamous "Home" the other day. I must say my tolerance must be pretty decent because I wasn't scared or grossed out at all.

Scully's come a long way. From being a damsel in distress more often than not she'll actually be able to fire her sidearm rather than drop it. For what they were dealing with they showed almost saintly amounts of restraint. Scully only initially fired at the freak once. For someone who's had to use her gun or needed to use a gun more times than entire field offices worth of agents put together, she could at least double tap. Frankly, if I were abducted by aliens and regularly dealing with all sorts of horrific critters, I'd only leave the range to go to the gym or my bunker.

This show's lighting is very dark. It's almost film noire.

I really do like the humorous ones the best. They don't work without all the other episodes providing contrast and material but I wish there was a whole series like them.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming
What are some of the best MotW from Season 5, 6, and 7? Honestly, I don't remember where I stopped watching. At one point I was only watching mytharc episodes, and holy poo poo that was a bad idea. But I've seen almost everything from Seasons 1-4. What's the one where they're on a spaceship (or a submarine??) and for some reason there's rapid-aging? That was the most boring episode by far, I think.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

escape artist posted:

What are some of the best MotW from Season 5, 6, and 7? Honestly, I don't remember where I stopped watching. At one point I was only watching mytharc episodes, and holy poo poo that was a bad idea. But I've seen almost everything from Seasons 1-4. What's the one where they're on a spaceship (or a submarine??) and for some reason there's rapid-aging? That was the most boring episode by far, I think.

That was Død Kalm, from season 2 I think, and I actually kind of like that episode. But as far as seasons 5-7 go, there were a lot of great MotW episodes. Just going down the list, I would recommend Unusual Suspects, Detour, Kitsunegari (Pusher 2), The Pine Bluff Variant, Folie a Deux, Drive, Triangle, Dreamland, How the Ghosts Stole Christmas, Monday, Arcadia, The Unnatural, Three of a Kind, Field Trip, Hungry, The Goldberg Variation, X-Cops, and Je Souhaite.

edit: Bad Blood was in season 5 as well. Looking at the list again, they're all worth watching to me except Chinga, All Souls, Alpha, Signs and Wonders, All Things, and Fight Club. All of those are regarded as some of the worst episodes of the series, and I avoid them when doing a rewatch.

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Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.

escape artist posted:

What are some of the best MotW from Season 5, 6, and 7? Honestly, I don't remember where I stopped watching. At one point I was only watching mytharc episodes, and holy poo poo that was a bad idea. But I've seen almost everything from Seasons 1-4. What's the one where they're on a spaceship (or a submarine??) and for some reason there's rapid-aging? That was the most boring episode by far, I think.

From season 5, I think "The Pine Bluff Variant" and "Folie a Deux" get good reveiews. As mentioned, I have a soft spot for "Schizogeny" as well.

From season 6, "Field Trip" and the humorous "Arcadia" get good reviews. I remember the former only vaguely.

From season 7, "Je Souhaite" is very amusing.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
All things is entirely set up to show that Mulder and Scully have started sleeping together. Some of the worst stuff in seasons 7-9 is stuff they did to tease the "shippers," with trust no 1 being the worst, as I mentioned above.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Oh man, I just remembered Soft Light, the episode with Tony Shalhoub playing the scientist whose shadow can disintegrate people. That is a phenomenal episode.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Oh man, I just remembered Soft Light, the episode with Tony Shalhoub playing the scientist whose shadow can disintegrate people. That is a phenomenal episode.

I wonder how many times, over the course of the whole show, M&S team up with a third agent who ends up being horribly killed. It has to be in the double digits at least, right?

e: VVV don't forget the guy who kills Jack Black in that episode, Giovanni Ribisi. Plus that other episode with Lucy Liu.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

While it's nowhere near Law and Order-levels of amazement, there are quite a few surprising guest stars scattered through the show. People have already mentioned Luke Wilson, Horace from Lost, and some others. Seth Green shows up at least once as a teenager who sees the monster while he's out doing drugs, and I want to say that he pops up again at the end in one with Michael Emerson.

Pre-Malcolm in the Middle Bryan Cranston shows up, maybe in the role where he met Vince Gilligan. Plus a fatter, younger Jack Black is a video game superstar, and post-fame Victoria Jackson in her last role before spiraling off to crazy town. The killer from Saw is a guy who loves cigarettes. Also Alex Trebek gets in there during one of the best episodes.

Vogon Poet
Jun 18, 2004

Someone bought me this custom title because they think I kick ass at Photoshop. They happen to be right.

UnknownMercenary posted:

I think "Fight Club" takes the cake for worst X-Files episode

This is a correct opinion.

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Oh man, I just remembered Soft Light, the episode with Tony Shalhoub playing the scientist whose shadow can disintegrate people. That is a phenomenal episode.

:eng101: Vince Gilligan's first episode. Also his second ever writing credit, period. The first was this movie, which I'm now slightly curious about because I love Vince Gilligan that much.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.

Jack Gladney posted:

The killer from Saw is a guy who loves cigarettes.

Shawnee Smith - who plays Jigsaw's erstwhile protege in Saw II and III - is featured in Firewalker.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

What was with the silhouette of a person falling into the hand in the opening credits? Cause that poo poo wigged me right out :(

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Jack Gladney posted:

While it's nowhere near Law and Order-levels of amazement, there are quite a few surprising guest stars scattered through the show. People have already mentioned Luke Wilson, Horace from Lost, and some others. Seth Green shows up at least once as a teenager who sees the monster while he's out doing drugs, and I want to say that he pops up again at the end in one with Michael Emerson.

Pre-Malcolm in the Middle Bryan Cranston shows up, maybe in the role where he met Vince Gilligan. Plus a fatter, younger Jack Black is a video game superstar, and post-fame Victoria Jackson in her last role before spiraling off to crazy town. The killer from Saw is a guy who loves cigarettes. Also Alex Trebek gets in there during one of the best episodes.

Yeah, Seth Green shows up in Deep Throat. Long red hair and some ridiculously baggy clothes. Oh, the 90s! We also see Harriet Harris playing basically the same character as on Frasier.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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The actress who played Nick's wife on Six Feet Under was the blind girl who could see through that serial killer's mind.

I'm pretty sure a young Shia Laboeuf showed up in one of the later episodes, too.

There are a crazy amount of cameos on this show.

Vogon Poet
Jun 18, 2004

Someone bought me this custom title because they think I kick ass at Photoshop. They happen to be right.
Aaron Paul was in season 9 episode "Lord of the Flies." It's a pretty bad episode, but his appearance is amusing. Jewel Staite (Kaylee from Firefly) was in season 3's "Oubliette."

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
You also have Dean Norris, Ryan Reynolds and the shrink from Law and Order, SVU.

Edit: and Munch is there, as Munch, in one of the unusual suspects episodes.

Korak
Nov 29, 2007
TV FACIST

beanieson posted:

That Luke Wilson episode was glorious, I'd forgotten all about that.

We need a list if all the stand alone funny episodes like that, I'd like to show my wife some of this show & that would be a good way to introduce it.
I'd start with Arcadia, bonus if you and her have lived in one of those creepy planned communities where everyone is way too nice to each other.

Febreeze
Oct 24, 2011

I want to care, butt I dont
I watched up to about mid season 7 in college but ran out of free time and lost interest as the myth arc got increasingly stupid and convoluted.

Are there any episodes in 8-9 that are still worth watching?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Febreeze posted:

Are there any episodes in 8-9 that are still worth watching?

You might be deathly inured against them already, but some of the Season 8 myth arc episodes are fantastic. Particularly This Is Not Happening, though that comes within a really serialised arc on the show.

I also really like the Agent Leyla Harrison episodes, Alone from Season 8 and Scary Monsters from Season 9. She's based on a fan who died from cancer, and the character is really sweet and funny. Roadrunners is pretty good too, and a real throwback to earlier years of the show.

Vogon Poet
Jun 18, 2004

Someone bought me this custom title because they think I kick ass at Photoshop. They happen to be right.

Febreeze posted:

I watched up to about mid season 7 in college but ran out of free time and lost interest as the myth arc got increasingly stupid and convoluted.

Are there any episodes in 8-9 that are still worth watching?

There are some decent episodes scattered across the last two seasons, but really nothing that's up to the standards of the best episodes from earlier seasons. When the show was originally airing I found the mytharc episodes toward the end of season 8 with Mulder's return to the show to be very exciting, but on my rewatch of the series I was already fed up with the mytharc by that point. My favorite season 8 episode now is probably "Roadrunners," a nice creepy MotW. I'd probably consider "John Doe" from season 9 to be the best episode of the last two seasons. If you're a Breaking Bad fan it's definitely one to watch - it was written by Vince Gilligan, a Mexican drug cartel figures into the plot, and it was Michelle MacLaren's directorial debut.

Marshal Radisic
Oct 9, 2012


I have a personal favorite from Season 8: Via Negativa. It's the first episode that has Doggett handling an X-File by himself, and it does a great job of establishing him on the show. He's the new skeptic, but he's more of a working-stiff "common sense" type of skeptic than Scully, and he's smart enough to look outside the envelope if that's where the evidence takes him. It's also one of the last of the scary episodes (full of nightmare imagery and three-eyed souls of cult leaders), and one of the few times we get to see how a normal person would react to the stuff M&S take for granted. No spoilers, but Doggett spends the last quarter of the episode freaking the gently caress out, and it's just a wonderful performance by Robert Patrick.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Korak posted:

I'd start with Arcadia, bonus if you and her have lived in one of those creepy planned communities where everyone is way too nice to each other.

I'd leave Arcadia for later. While it is good on its own, having a better grasp of the characters would help them appreciate it more. Clyde Brookman's is probably a better episode to start with.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick
If you're going to watch one episode from the last two seasons, watch John Doe. It's very solid writing, acting, and directing, and I would put it up there with some of the best episodes from the first seven season. Other than the previously mentioned Via Negativa and Roadrunners, I would recommend Redrum, Invocation, Release, and Sunshine Days.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Man, the soundtrack to this show is just great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-M9nvV7xW0

This piece also plays during one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the whole show, or really any show.

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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Octy posted:

Man, the soundtrack to this show is just great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-M9nvV7xW0

This piece also plays during one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the whole show, or really any show.

One of those "pure moods" compilation dc commercials used to have the files theme in it as one of the tracks.

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