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Febreeze posted:I watched up to about mid season 7 in college but ran out of free time and lost interest as the myth arc got increasingly stupid and convoluted. Mark Snow wrote some pretty good cues for This Is Not Happening, Release, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting. And Scully gets a theme. All are on YouTube.
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My gently caress, I just watched the Cockroach episode last night. I've noticed a change in the writing for this show around season 3, where it seems like the characters are coming into their own a little bit more. I thought the bits with Mulder calling Scully at home and Scully debunking Mulder's theories without batting an eye were pretty great.
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I felt a bit bad for letting the Season 3 rewatch thread die, even though I didn't start it in the first place (and other people could have done a recap). If I can muster up the time and energy, I may pick up where I left off. It's fun watching (most of) the episodes again and turning a critical eye on them.
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Jan 28, 2014 00:16
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kingturnip posted:I felt a bit bad for letting the Season 3 rewatch thread die, even though I didn't start it in the first place (and other people could have done a recap). Yeah, as I said in the OP, you guys did a fantastic job at writing up those reviews. It's too bad that thread died. I was thinking about just picking a random episode every now and then and writing something up for it in the same style, but that would be awesome if you picked it up where it left off. I don't have a whole lot of time nor energy either, but if you decide to do it, I could do a share of the episodes. Gyshall posted:My gently caress, I just watched the Cockroach episode last night. I've noticed a change in the writing for this show around season 3, where it seems like the characters are coming into their own a little bit more. I thought the bits with Mulder calling Scully at home and Scully debunking Mulder's theories without batting an eye were pretty great. That would be one of Darin Morgan's episodes. We learn a lot about Mulder and Scully in the more comedic episodes, and Morgan's writing in War of the Coprophages, Jose Chung, and Clyde Bruckman was masterful. He also wrote Humbug, another great comedic episode.
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Did I miss a tenth season of The X-Files? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology_of_The_X-Files#Season_10quote:Fox Mulder and Dana Scully—now living together in Spotsylvania County, Virginia under the aliases Anthony and Dana Blake—are visited by Deputy Director Walter Skinner, who informs them that an unknown person hacked into the FBI's files and discovered information regarding the X-Files. Skinner is later nearly killed in his hotel room, whereas Scully is met outside of the hospital by one of her patients, the young Emily Van de Kamp who is acting as if she were possessed; Scully is soon surrounded and brutally attacked. FBI Agent John Doggett investigates a pipeline that mysteriously explodes. Meanwhile, Mulder tracks down the Lone Gunmen—revealed to have faked their deaths several years earlier—who attempt to help him find Scully. Scully, meanwhile, wakes up in a cabin surrounded by the mysterious Acolytes. She is subsequently saved by the ominous Deacon. FBI Agent Monica Reyes investigates William's adoptive parents, only to discover their dead bodies in William's room, revealing that it was some unknown entities portraying the adoptive parents. Scully learns that she is being protected by the Deacon, and that the pipeline that Dogget was investigating is carrying magnetite. Mulder is visited by the believed-to-be dead Smoking Man, who behaves extremely oddly. Skinner tracks down Emily, only to discover tell-tale signs of acidic green alien blood. Mulder visits the pipeline believed to be carrying magnetite and deduces that Scully has been taken into the surrounding woods. Meanwhile, Scully is taken by the Deacon to a general store, where she is picked up by an officer, who turns out to be a shape-shifting Acolyte; he transforms into Mulder, and Scully crashes the car. In the woods, Scully shoots the real Mulder, believing him to be Deacon. Mulder is healed by the Acolytes only to be tricked into thinking one of them is Scully. The real Scully, however manages to kill the impostor; suddenly she witnesses a massive alien space ship rise from the center of Yellowstone National Park, but begins to forget the encounter. She reports to an FBI review board, headed by Skinner, and argues that people with connections to the X-Files division are systematically being targeted. To counter this, the FBI decides to reinstate Mulder and Scully as federal agents. On a more related note, The Host is still a great episode. The special effects in this show are amazing.
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Jan 28, 2014 11:01
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^^^Season 10 is what they call the comic. It's worth noting how much influence The X-Files took from Twin Peaks. I never really noticed it at the time, mainly because I was more into X-Files and didn't go through a full rewatch of Twin Peaks until years later, but the tone and a lot of the settings and motifs are very similar. I can't help wishing they took place in the same universe, or that Fox used the series to wrap it up the way they did with Millennium. The plot of Twin Peaks seems exactly like something that would happen in a case. Was David Lynch ever remotely involved in the creative end of the show?
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sticklefifer posted:^^^Season 10 is what they call the comic. Don't forget David Duchovny's appearance as DEA agent "Denise" Bryson as well.
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Wizchine posted:Don't forget David Duchovny's appearance as DEA agent "Denise" Bryson as well.  (Twin Peaks is worth a watch on its own, especially if you like X-Files. And yes, I think of them as being in the same universe as well)
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I tried to watch Twin Peaks and it just never grabbed me. I had heard it being compared to the X-files, so obviously I was interested. After the first few episodes, I felt like it was way too melodramatic and I didn't care at all about any of what was happening. It felt like a really slow, bad soap opera. I'm going to give it another shot now, though, if only to see David Duchovny cross-dressing. The movie-length pilot episode has also been barring me from re-attempting to watch it.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:I tried to watch Twin Peaks and it just never grabbed me. I had heard it being compared to the X-files, so obviously I was interested. After the first few episodes, I felt like it was way too melodramatic and I didn't care at all about any of what was happening. It felt like a really slow, bad soap opera. I'm going to give it another shot now, though, if only to see David Duchovny cross-dressing. You should give it another go. I loved it on the first watch, but I also loved most of the second season which is pretty controversial. Just don't go in for the movie.
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Jan 28, 2014 21:45
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Octy posted:You should give it another go. I loved it on the first watch, but I also loved most of the second season which is pretty controversial. Just don't go in for the movie. I'm glad the movie exists because even though it throws out a lot of what made the show great, it shows the side of Twin Peaks that was only really hinted at during the original run. Of course the reason it wasn't a major focus is because its extremely dark and disturbing, and just all around depressing as hell. The whole series I kept thinking to myself "Man, if only I could actually watch the last few days of Laura's life, it would be so interesting to see." Then I saw it and it is not a fun experience.
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Gyshall posted:My gently caress, I just watched the Cockroach episode last night. I've noticed a change in the writing for this show around season 3, where it seems like the characters are coming into their own a little bit more. I thought the bits with Mulder calling Scully at home and Scully debunking Mulder's theories without batting an eye were pretty great. There are a couple of things driving the change in writing. Vince Gilligan and John Shiban joined the writing staff for the show (Gilligan's first credit is in season 2 with soft light, but that script is what got him the job, as he wrote it as a fan and submitted it to Carter, who then made the episode and hired him) and Morgan and Wong, who wrote so many of the early stand alone episodes, left during the 3rd season (they come back later). The next big shift in tone happens after the 5th season. First 5 seasons were shot in Vancouver, and then they switch over to LA. Which means a lot less of the literally dark episodes and more of the comedic ones.
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It ruins the whole look of the show on some level. Vancouver has a cold dreariness that seeps into every shot, even if it's indoors and well-lit. California is just too colorful and it was never the same again.
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Jan 29, 2014 01:33
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haveblue posted:It ruins the whole look of the show on some level. Vancouver has a cold dreariness that seeps into every shot, even if it's indoors and well-lit. California is just too colorful and it was never the same again. Yea I wouldn't have been able to remember the exact point when it happens, but the show changes from having a pretty unique style to looking like every other Fox show that's ever aired.
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I just love the special effects, so good. The makeup, explosions, etc. All great stuff.
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Outside of the overall myth-arc story being stupid, do the actual myth-arc episodes get bad at some point? I'm trying to justify abandoning the mythology since I know it leads nowhere good, but it's still pretty good so far (I just started S4). Oh Brian Thompson... He possibly has the greatest 'natural talent' for playing an evil badass ever:  by that I mean he has the giantest mouth I love how the shapeshifters can magically heal bullet wounds and severe brain damage in humans, but if they get stung by bees they will have those scars for a month 
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This arc of the former FBI agent taking hostages is INTENSE! Holy poo poo. I did a loving little fist pump when Skinner was like - WE NEED TO REOPEN THE XFILES! - just before that scene I was thinking, gently caress YOU Skinner - loving over Mulder cause you're scared. But wow, what a way to end that 2nd episode in the arc. I can only imagine what people thought back when it first aired. Such a good episode!
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david_a posted:I love how the shapeshifters can magically heal bullet wounds and severe brain damage in humans, but if they get stung by bees they will have those scars for a month Weren't those bees special somehow?
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Jan 29, 2014 18:03
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david_a posted:Outside of the overall myth-arc story being stupid, do the actual myth-arc episodes get bad at some point? I'm trying to justify abandoning the mythology since I know it leads nowhere good, but it's still pretty good so far (I just started S4). The episodes are mostly fine by themselves. Even season 8 mytharc episodes are decent, even if they don't make much sense. But skip the season 9 ones, maybe even the finale. That is when baby mulder the Christ/antiChrist becomes central. Trust no 1 and the ones about william are fairly weak, and the finale is really a clip show with a mulder/scully kiss thrown in for the "shippers."
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Jan 29, 2014 18:14
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david_a posted:Outside of the overall myth-arc story being stupid, do the actual myth-arc episodes get bad at some point? I'm trying to justify abandoning the mythology since I know it leads nowhere good, but it's still pretty good so far (I just started S4). But I don't really think the story itself is stupid, so YMMV.
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Vintersorg posted:This arc of the former FBI agent taking hostages is INTENSE! Holy poo poo. I did a loving little fist pump when Skinner was like - WE NEED TO REOPEN THE XFILES! - just before that scene I was thinking, gently caress YOU Skinner - loving over Mulder cause you're scared. But wow, what a way to end that 2nd episode in the arc. I can only imagine what people thought back when it first aired. Such a good episode! Off the top of my head, Duane Barry/Ascension is probably my favorite arc from the mythology. "Duane Barry" is a nailbiter from beginning to end, and you actually feel like there are going to be real consequences for Mulder and Scully (and there are) in a show where the main characters, for the most part, have infinite plot armor. The dialogue was great, and the acting was impeccable, specifically from Duchovny and Steve Railsback. joepinetree posted:The episodes are mostly fine by themselves. Even season 8 mytharc episodes are decent, even if they don't make much sense. But skip the season 9 ones, maybe even the finale. That is when baby mulder the Christ/antiChrist becomes central. Trust no 1 and the ones about william are fairly weak, and the finale is really a clip show with a mulder/scully kiss thrown in for the "shippers." Some of the mytharc episodes from season 8 were decent on their own, but on the whole they just don't make a lot of sense. If someone is watching the entire show for the first time, I would watch them if you're really into the show, but otherwise just watch the MotW episodes. As Nothus Infelix said, a lot of parts of the mythology get explained in season 6, and although the Biogenesis arc is a pretty cool concept, it doesn't really go anywhere from there. Doggett's arc actually gets a decent resolution in season 9's "Release", and it's actually a pretty good episode, but other than that, yeah, skip it.
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I give them credit for going back to Bellefleur as the springboard for the mytharc coda, but what they came up with just wasn't that interesting. Don't know if it needs to be spoilered, since new viewers rarely make it this far anyway.... The aliens killing abductees to "resurrect" them as Terminators fits into the theme of aliens infiltrating and replacing our civilization. It also dovetails nicely with the idea that they will present themselves as gods when the day of Colonization comes. And it finally explains the mutant corpse from the pilot episode. The aliens knew the Syndicate would betray them, and this was their backup plan. (After the petroleum, bees, old folks homes, bovine growth hormones, Nazis, leprosy colonies, Anasazi, and Tunguska, it was probably plan 9 from outer space.) For various reasons, the writers just didn't tell this part of the story very well. I think they were never clear on when the series would end, so they couldn't plan out the final arc. Then, for better or worse, the entire mytharc was ignored for the last movie, save a throwaway line about the FBI dropping charges against Mulder. Which makes me think the writer of that movie turned off the series finale halfway through, and wasn't really paying attention to the first half.
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Vintersorg posted:This arc of the former FBI agent taking hostages is INTENSE! Holy poo poo. I did a loving little fist pump when Skinner was like - WE NEED TO REOPEN THE XFILES! - just before that scene I was thinking, gently caress YOU Skinner - loving over Mulder cause you're scared. But wow, what a way to end that 2nd episode in the arc. I can only imagine what people thought back when it first aired. Such a good episode! Yeah, I just finished that too. Skinner posted:Agent Mulder, every life, every day is in danger. That's just life.
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Which episode(s) were that? Sounds vaguely familiar.
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escape artist posted:Which episode(s) were that? Sounds vaguely familiar. Season 2, episodes 5 and 6, 'Duane Barry' and 'Ascension'
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How does X know when Mulder wants to talk to him? I know there's the signal with the tape on the window and the blue light, but does that mean X swings by every night or that he has some low-level operative constantly watching Mulder's apartment? The former wouldn't fit in with X's repeated assertions that Mulder works for him while the latter seems a bit careless given X's status as an informant. I know I'd start to wonder what was going on after months of watching some guy's apartment for my boss.
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Octy posted:How does X know when Mulder wants to talk to him? I know there's the signal with the tape on the window and the blue light, but does that mean X swings by every night or that he has some low-level operative constantly watching Mulder's apartment? The former wouldn't fit in with X's repeated assertions that Mulder works for him while the latter seems a bit careless given X's status as an informant. I know I'd start to wonder what was going on after months of watching some guy's apartment for my boss. I think that's one of those questions that has no logical answer, and should just be accepted as it is.
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david_a posted:Outside of the overall myth-arc story being stupid, do the actual myth-arc episodes get bad at some point? I'm trying to justify abandoning the mythology since I know it leads nowhere good, but it's still pretty good so far (I just started S4). I'd argue that the ideas behind the mythology/black oil/BEEEEES get really, really muddled following seasons 4 and 5/The Movie, but that doesn't stop Vienen (from season 8) being one of the better late-season episodes that incorporates elements of the mythology into its plot whilst at the same time somehow managing to avoid making a complete headache of the rest of the episode. I never even bothered trying to watch The Sixth Extinction stuff, though. Admittedly, Vienen would probably work just as well as a self-contained monster episode since the mythology stuff that does come up doesn't really add to/clarify anything that's been established already and the rest of it is basically identical to something like Firewalker or Ice (Agents in peril in an isolated location! Intrigue!), but I'm biased because it's the black oil and the black oil frigging rules even if it makes absolutely no sense. It's also upsetting that the only other thing that I can think of Brian Thompson having a prominent role in is Joe Dirt. 
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gushing posted:It's also upsetting that the only other thing that I can think of Brian Thompson having a prominent role in is Joe Dirt. I watched the very '80's movie "Miracle Mile" and was very surprised to see him playing a nice, gay bodybuilding helicopter pilot that tries to save the day. I immediately thought he was going to be a bad guy as he just seems to look the part.
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gushing posted:It's also upsetting that the only other thing that I can think of Brian Thompson having a prominent role in is Joe Dirt. You're forgetting Thompson's legendary performance in Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.
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He also played the villain in the 1986 Stallone flick Cobra
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He also did this, which never fails to make me think of the X-Files when it comes on.
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WASH DAY TOMORROW. NOTHING CLEAN, RIGHT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TmQ1ktaLU
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colonel_korn posted:WASH DAY TOMORROW. NOTHING CLEAN, RIGHT? Beaten - his prominent tag-team with Bill Paxton. What the hell did the third guy ever do...
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My first exposure to Brian Thompson was fright night part 2: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097390/ And I'll always remember his death scene...
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He's one of the main bad dudes in the JCVD flick Lionheart. Unfortunately I don't remember him fighting anyone. Oh, and the early Fox show Werewolf, which I've heard about but I'm not sure I've ever seen. Judging from this picture, I wish I did: 
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Charlie Mopps posted:I think that's one of those questions that has no logical answer, and should just be accepted as it is. I mostly asked in jest, but I was also hoping there was some answer to it that I'd completely missed. I should stop thinking too much about these things. Octy fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 1, 2014 |
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I'm also doing a rewatch, I just finished One Breath. Why is the Flukeman episode so well-remembered? Sure, the monster design is great, but the show blows it's load halfway through the episode. It goes from just showing us glimpses to full out showing the entire monster just staring at the characters going "bloop glub im the flukeman stuck in your poop chute here". It's so mediocre.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm also doing a rewatch, I just finished One Breath. Why is the Flukeman episode so well-remembered? Sure, the monster design is great, but the show blows it's load halfway through the episode. It goes from just showing us glimpses to full out showing the entire monster just staring at the characters going "bloop glub im the flukeman stuck in your poop chute here". It's so mediocre. The end shot - Flukeman staring up from the bottom of the pit toilet and waiting for its next meal - is worth the price of admission alone. For me, it established the show as something I wanted to watch every week because they were willing to go full-blown horror. There was nothing remotely close at the time on tv. I've only seen it once when it aired, like most of the episodes, so I don't know how well it stands up on a rewatch.
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