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Gotta say this is even better news than Longmire returning from the dead (and Heroes, but LOL Heroes). X-Files was one of the greatest shows of the last few decades. It pioneered modern serialized tv (as well as inventing the mytharc/MOTW scenario) and I can't wait to see what they do with it in modern television.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 04:38 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 04:46 |
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I know that CSM was blown up, but I don't care. I am so stoked he's back. Astroman fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 28, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 28, 2015 03:52 |
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Timby posted:For example, Smoking Man got shot by a sniper then magically got better, thrown down a staircase with his wheelchair and left for dead and magically got better, then got literally blown up by helicopter rockets and apparently magically got better since he's coming back for this. The way I see it, only WE the viewers saw CSM die. Unreliable narrator. Nobody "in universe" saw him die; they just shot some rockets in cave, called it a day, and flew away. Here's how you retcon it: INTERVIEW ROOM HELICOPTER PILOT: "Yeah, I flew that mission. We flew by the cave, launched missiles. We were told 100% the target was in there" Flashback shows what pilot believed happened--clip of CSM in cave being immolated. "The mission was a success, target destroyed. We flew back to base." Clip rewinds, revealing the missiles being fired on an empty cave. Camera pulls back to view behind one way mirrored wall of interrogation room, where we see a suited hand reach into a pack of MORELYS, take out a cigarette, and light it up... BOOM Also I was watching T:2 today and I want to once again reiterate that I unironically can't wait for Dogget to come back.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2015 03:58 |
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I really hope the six episodes thing is just some kinda pilot test, because I cannot see all this awesomeness contained to so few episodes.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2015 14:58 |
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Jack Gladney posted:The big question I hope the revival will answer: what does Mulder think of the internet and does he download at work? The first scene is him staggering disheveled up to Scully, hair down past his neck, a long beard, squinting at the sun. SCULLY: Mulder! Oh my God! I can't believe you survived! All these years after being abducted! MULDER: Abducted? No Scully, I just got a cable modem. What do yo mean "all these years?" It's still 2005 right?
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# ¿ May 29, 2015 04:31 |
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It seems like they are having more fun than I've ever heard of any group of people having making a tv show. Shame Robert Patrick isn't coming back, because I did dig Dogget, but everything else is aces!
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 04:40 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Supernatural has been on my list for ages but I've never quite gotten around to watching it. I think it's the length of it that puts me off - sure, The X-Files and SG1 were both pretty long series as well, but I started them after they'd finished and I knew I was working towards a definite ending. I'm pretty sure the producers of Supernatural have said they're fully prepared to keep it going for ten more seasons if they're not cancelled first. The actors pretty much want to do it forever, and it's still a ratings juggernaut for CW, so there's no end in sight. It gets repetitive in the past few years, as they have to keep going back to the brothers drama well for plot and coming up with stakes to raise each season for the arc is getting tougher, but there are still some great moments. It's more like a soap opera now than anything else. The first few years were very procedural in a good way, laying out the "rules" of the universe in an almost scientific way, and a great mix of MOTW and mytharc episodes. I still enjoy where they just spend an episode hunting a regular ghost. It's become pretty much a show about Heaven, Hell, Demons and Angels but that wasn't at all the focus of the early seasons which were more about ghosts and a larger variety of supernatural monsters. I never thought of it as being like X-Files before, but now that people mention it, yeah I can totally see it.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2015 14:48 |
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esselfortium posted:How the hell is CSM still alive?! He was shot by helicopter missiles and engulfed in fire! Maybe they decided to just hope everyone's forgotten all about the terrible series finale. It would probably be for the best, I guess. I've said this before, but I think the move is that *we* saw CSM immolated on screen, but nobody *in universe* saw it. The guys just shot the missiles and flew away cya later shitlords style. On the other hand, in the trailer the hand holding the cigarette is very young, so it could be flashbacks. I just hope that if they DO show a young CSM they get Erik Knudsen to play him.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 02:19 |
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I will die a happy man if they drop a Fringe reference. All they really have to do is stick an Observer somewhere in the background of each episode.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 05:27 |
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Hakkesshu posted:At the time X-Files was exceedingly popular. It was kind of the only show of its type, it was so much more well-produced than other sci-fi shows like TNG, and with the burgeoning internet it had a huge dedicated fanbase. I remember seeing the first movie in the theater and it was pretty packed. Yeah, what made it a gamechanger was that it was one of the first big mainstream scifi shows that wasn't just for geeks--it was cool for anyone to watch and talk about at the watercooler the next day. It was like Lost, except that show played coy about being scifi for years.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 01:55 |
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Doggett is rad and it's a drat shame he didn't come back.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 06:04 |
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Chairman Capone posted:I think the problem with trying to imagine what X-Files would have been like if it had been made 20 years later is that so much of the popular genre/procedural shows on now or recently clearly have X-Files in their ancestral DNA. Just in the last few years for example, Lost, Fringe, Breaking Bad, Supernatural, Hannibal, even stuff like CSI, Criminal Minds, and the revived Doctor Who were inspired to varying degrees by The X-Files. The entire concept of "Monster of the Week" and "Mytharc" episodes that so many shows use was literally invented on X-Files. At least that's when people started talking about it. Chairman Capone posted:I actually never really thought how X-Files launched around the time that TNG was hitting its peak. Quantum Leap is the other big sci-fi show at the time that immediately comes to mind, I could definitely see Fox execs trying to get in on that trend. And obviously it was coming just after Twin Peaks hit meteoric heights then completely tanked and has a semi-similar tone. Quantum Leap, X-Files, and Lost are probably the 3 most mainstream, popular genre shows in the last 30-40 years. They are the biggest shows that had the most following of non nerd fans, where everyday average people would discuss them at work or school the next day without any self-consciousness or "closeting" their love for them because of some geek stigma, and people of all ages and walks of life were into them. I'd say The Walking Dead is pretty drat close to that as well. X-Files was particularly a watershed moment for scifi tv because in Quantum Leap the tech elements were very much subsumed by the human drama and Boomer nostalgia. Heck, even Lost was cagey about being supernatural or sci-fi for it's first few seasons--at any point in there it could all have been revealed to have mundane, modern explanations for all they saw, and like QL Lost was much more a story of characters than tech. When X-FIles came on, the big sci-fi was stuff like Star Trek, Doctor Who, and other series that were often short lived with small budgets, laughable effects, and in popular culture were considered the provenance of nerds. X-Files was pretty unabashedly supernatural/sci-fi but somehow it was amazingly popular and mainstream. joepinetree posted:Duchovny specifically wanted completely off the show, as did Gilliam Anderson. Only he was a bigger name and renewed for fewer years. Duchovny did part time for season 8, and didn't want even that commitment for season 9. They both wanted the show to continue as a movie franchise, and for a very long time were pretty vocal against going back to TV. The movie franchise derailed because the show kept getting renewed at the last minute when other fox dramas failed, and once it finally went off the air Chris Carter sued Fox over residuals (which would also mean no mini-series). The 08 movie only got made because of the pending writer's strike, but even after it bombed in the box office they were pretty adamant about only doing it as movies. There was even a Duchovny interview where he was specific about it (can't find it anymore because it had been posted in https://www.xfilesforum.net , and the site doesn't exist anymore, and you can imagine that googling Duchovny and miniseries now will lead to a ton of hits). The modern world of tv being more flexible helps too. They have no problem with committing to a few months of work. Shorter US seasons and the slow percolation into American consciousness of the idea of British tv with very short seasons of 3-5 episodes (including stuff like Sherlock) makes a 6 episode run yearly viable. While I'd be happier with maybe 10-13 episodes, I can't argue that even shows with that number don't still have filler. And it's still better than a movie, which I never feel has enough time to develop tv characters and advance their arcs and the universe they are in.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 15:22 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Wasn't Doctor Who kind of a cult thing outside the UK and some Commonwealth countries back then? I was of the impression that the obscure British sci-fi shows you cited to show your early 1990s nerd cred were Doctor Who and Red Dwarf. Oh absolutely. Doctor Who was "known to exist" by the mainstream in the US but it was the nerdiest of nerd poo poo. If you were into Doctor Who or Blake's 7 you were a meganerd. I'd say the modern equivalent would be saying you're a Brony or something. It's crazy going to the mall and seeing Doctor Who poo poo in the window of Hot Topic or Doctor Who stars on the Tonight Show, or the new Doctor casting being covered in USA Today. Never in a million years would 1987 me have thought that would happen. It was kinda cool though, because as a Who fan you were part a very obscure and special club, going to the bottom rows of the scifi section at Waldenbooks to look for Target novelizations, watching fuzzy PBS episodes at midnight on a Friday. Nothing at all like how it was a household name in the UK in the 60s-80s. I kind of miss that, though I'm thankful the popularity of it now means it continues to exist and the old actors are even doing stories. It's the same with Lord of the Rings. That was so nerdy and uncool in the 80s, and 15 years later it's the highest grossing movie. Wheat Loaf posted:Even outside science-fiction / fantasy shows, most dramas - I suppose the "prestige dramas" of the late 1980s / early 1990s, all the Steven Bochco and David E. Kelley police and lawyer shows - were episodic with a few ongoing plots. They weren't serialised in the way modern dramas are; Bochco tried that when he made Murder One, which ended up with like 10 minutes' worth of "previously on" recaps at the start of each episode by the end of the season. Yeah, continuity was highly verboten on tv shows in the 50s-90s because they wanted to rerun them and expected people to be able to watch on any random weekday a syndicated episode and not feel left out. All plots resolved by the end of the episode, very few recurring characters, and arcs or continuity more by accident. Hell, in the early days of tv they never expected them to rerun at all, so they cared even less. The exception of course was soap operas, which were very continuity heavy but never reran. X-Files broke the mold by combining the two, which makes Chris Carter a tv genius.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 17:23 |
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My favorite part of the show, which I hope they still do, is when Mulder and Scully show up to people's doors, flash their FBI badges, and get totally blown off and disrespected. Probably less likely to happen after 9/11 though...
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 03:44 |
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68k posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6pLxYXpW8I The interview with them is great! They are so cute together! I could pretty much see how they'd be down to do a few eps a year just to hang out.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2016 04:39 |
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GOOSEBUMPS when that theme started!!!
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:27 |
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"I dunno, move to LA? Fight crime?"
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:29 |
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OBSERVER SPOTTED
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:31 |
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"I WANT TO BELIEVE"
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:35 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Did they roughen Duchovny up a bit or is that the look he's sporting these days? He stumbled onto the set straight from Californication.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:36 |
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HIJK posted:To be fair this is Mulder, without Scully as his handler he goes right down the drain. With internet porn being what it is, he's lucky to ever put on pants and get out of the house these days...
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:37 |
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Trump will build a Space Wall and make Centauri pay for it.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:41 |
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Why is Scully so rabidly skeptical again?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:45 |
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"Do you miss it? The X Files?" SO META
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:51 |
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"What if all the times we literally saw aliens and spacehips with our own eyes were government lies?"
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 04:55 |
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They left out 9/11 and Sandy Hook...
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 05:15 |
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prolifik posted:Haha what the hell did they just say? So everything wrong with America is because Aliens. And GWB.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 05:15 |
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EnsGDT posted:This is the worst episode of Community yet. I always said Dan Harmon was poo poo.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 05:20 |
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Well that tomahawk missile just put a hole in his throat, OK.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 05:23 |
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Ginette Reno posted:every Monday I think Should have been on Sundays at 9pm.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 05:26 |
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nopants posted:I was really hoping Joel was taking Mulder to the Lone Gunmen. Yeah, when Joel McHale brought him to the hanger I really thought the "extremely paranoid" guys were going to be the Lone Gunmen, somehow resurrected like CSM.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 06:15 |
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I'm pretty sure if you hated that episode you just hate fun.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 02:08 |
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So was Agent Kellogg actually from DHS? Or was he some sort of Muslim spy? And how did he get back from 20,000 BC?
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 03:25 |
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CelticPredator posted:It's extremely offensive and fuels the already seething hatred of muslims. There is very little in this episode that makes a case that "Most Muslims aren't suicide bomber terrorists." I know. In this day and age, it's extremely unlikely that a suicide bomber would ever be Muslim. Just ask all the people who have encountered suicide bombers over the past year, especially in the Middle East and Asia.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 16:21 |
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LoG posted:As a super casual watcher of X-Files in the 90's, I've loved all of these new episodes a lot. They have all been great to me and are better than a lot of other shows out right now. I think some of you are taking it way too seriously. You're discounting the Serious Responsibility TeeVee executives and writers have to responsibly promote social justice and the rights of the downtrodden. With great Nielsen Ratings comes great responsibility.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 04:01 |
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Chop Sunni posted:I had a brief mengele effect thing for reggie (who I looked up afterwards) and stephen tobolowsky, who I'm legit surprised wasn't in earlier episodes. Same. Also that rotting ship looked a lot like the one with the portal on Supernatural.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2018 06:44 |
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business hammocks posted:Was Dr. Marvin Candle from Lost the pickup artist author in the William episode? That was some excellent casting and I hope the real one shows up later, and that he is also the rogue scientist guy they mentioned. Yes, except he will be Dr Edgar Halliwax.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2018 01:43 |
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bull3964 posted:The X-Files is no stranger to gimmick episodes, I'm not sure how this one strains disbelief more than others. There's always been a subset of episodes that are even further removed from MOTW to the point where you could question their inclusion in canon. The fun has always been to see the character reactions to these situations. Maybe this is the key to getting Gillian Anderson to stay--just do an entire season of "What If?" episodes, throwing Mulder and Scully into wacky situations with no mytharc or continuity whatsoever. Mendrian posted:Okay but that technology doesn't just happen like a force of nature - somebody made it and their presence is utterly deleted from the episode. That person is the one who bares responsibility for a robot that tries to kill people, not the people who 'taught' this robot that it's okay to harass others for their lack of generosity. Well at some point technology might as well be a force of nature. If a robot kills somebody but the guy who wrote the original code that went bad has been dead for years, how can you make him be responsible?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2018 02:44 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 04:46 |
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OldMemes posted:CSM is gone He took a missile to the face, and wasn't even burned. poo poo, when we saw him actually burned and injured, that was just a fantasy/dream. IRL he was perfectly fine apparently.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2018 04:25 |