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^^^Season 10 is what they call the comic. It's worth noting how much influence The X-Files took from Twin Peaks. I never really noticed it at the time, mainly because I was more into X-Files and didn't go through a full rewatch of Twin Peaks until years later, but the tone and a lot of the settings and motifs are very similar. I can't help wishing they took place in the same universe, or that Fox used the series to wrap it up the way they did with Millennium. The plot of Twin Peaks seems exactly like something that would happen in a case. Was David Lynch ever remotely involved in the creative end of the show?
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Slate Action posted:One episode I would be interested to see them follow up on is Eve. Seems like you could do a lot more with that premise. (Although the same could be said for countless other episodes of the show I guess) One of the few episodes to hold the honor of inspiring a relatively popular lovely 90s band.
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Jul 8, 2015 04:38
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MacDougall posted:As X Files fans how do you feel about Fringe? When it first came out I gave it a shot for about 3-4 episodes and didn't feel like they were doing anything new. After season 2 ended I saw a late season 2 episode, thought it was awesome, and went back to catch up. Later on in the show's run you really realize how much the show rewards the early watchers by making just about every single plot point early on relevant in the late game, something X-Files didn't really pull off. It's X-Files if its arching narrative was cohesive and got a satisfying payoff. There are weaker points obviously, and some dropped plot threads, but I give them a lot of credit for trying new things constantly and never backing down or returning to status quo.
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Aug 15, 2015 01:08
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It's funny how when you binge-watch you start noticing them reusing actors. Nicholas Lea is a victim in Gender Bender before he shows up later as Krycek, and the girl who plays Roland's girlfriend shows up later in 2Shy as the roommate. Speaking of Roland, Zeljko Ivanek knocks that performance out of the park.
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Sep 26, 2015 00:30
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Were the visions of the demon in 'Irresistible' supposed to mean that the fetishist killer is an actual demon, or that it's metaphorical and the people who see him just interpret him that way? I always felt it came across as the latter, but either way there's no suspicion of a supernatural component from any of the characters, so it's really not an X-File at all. edit: I'm saying without the context of Orison as a follow-up. I was never sure how to interpret the episode on its own before they decided to bring back that plot. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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Sep 26, 2015 21:39
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The movie gives a bit more insight on the shadowy syndicate and has a nice little arc for the Well Manicured Man, who was my favorite of the "dark smoky room full of stuffy old white guys". Has there ever been any comment from the X-Files people on why they so rarely used Senator Matheson? It seemed cool to have an actual politician on Mulder's side but he's a very understated character and I think he shows up all of about 4 times in the whole series.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:57
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Does it include the movies?
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Oct 6, 2015 20:14
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My favorite part of Fight the Future in the theater was when they almost kissed and a fangirl in the audience literally screamed.
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Oct 7, 2015 11:29
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The "short fat white Nazi stormtrooper" bit from Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose is one of my favorite jokes of the funnier episodes.
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Oct 7, 2015 21:46
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68k posted:Any other suggestions? What would you show to folks to introduce them to the show? Pusher is one of my favorites of the whole series. For mytharc, I always liked the Anasazi/The Blessing Way/Paper Clip trilogy, mainly due to Skinner finally standing up to Cancer Man.
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Oct 9, 2015 08:02
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Beyond the Sea and Deadwood made me a Brad Dourif fan for life. He's so, so good.68k posted:Aside from his Vietnam speech, "pucker up and kiss my rear end" still makes me fist pump into the air every time. Then when Albert walks into the room. "If I so much as feel your presence, I'm going to make you a very, very famous man." "Yes, thank you! I'm going to report that to the group!  "
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Oct 20, 2015 08:06
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Paper Clip is my all-time favorite episode.
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What are some good non-American folklore episodes? The ones that immediately spring to mind are Hell Money, Teso dos Bichos, and Teliko, but I know there are more. I always found those interesting because they use mythology in other countries I never would've known about otherwise.
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Oct 27, 2015 02:39
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I caught a fun little callback in season 4. In 'Paper Clip' in early season 3, Krycek realizes his car is about to blow up when he sees the digital clock on the dashboard flashing 12:00, and he books it to safety. In 'Tunguska' in season 4, Krycek gets into a car with Mulder. When Mulder turns it on, Krycek glances at the clock and tenses up, then looks relieved when the clock display isn't flashing. It's subtle but it's really cool for those paying attention.
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Dec 1, 2015 09:43
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I'm about halfway through a rewatch and I didn't realize back in the 90s how many episodes Agent Pendrell was in. His unspoken crush on Scully was simultaneously pathetic and adorable. RIP Pendrell, you just wanted to buy Scully a drink. 
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Dec 8, 2015 06:59
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For both the cast and writers, it feels like the first episode was everyone shaking the rust off, the second was when they started getting comfortable in their roles and storytelling style again, and now this one feels like they're back to their regular groove.
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Feb 2, 2016 07:29
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JetsGuy posted:He also wrote the S2-S3 three parter, which I liked a bunch. Skinner threatening CSM in Paper Clip is possibly my favorite scene of the entire series. zoux posted:Oh yeah, the first mention is absolutely a joke by Morgan, or a meta-commentary on how Dana Scully is a character so of course she can't actually die, but I believe that the X-Files was one of the first widely discussed on the Internet shows, so the producers probably picked up on this popular fan theory and gave it a couple of shout outs. I was actually on the Fox forums during the original run and they were just as terrible as you probably think. They spawned the concept of shipping, for gently caress's sake. I'm also pretty sure the actors have said they came back because it wasn't a full 24 episode season because they didn't want to do that. Occasional truncated seasons that don't overstay are fine with me. Otherwise you get them trying too hard and coming up with bad filler episodes.
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Feb 3, 2016 19:12
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JetsGuy posted:Skinner vs X is my favorite. I like X as a character, but I never quite understood his deal. He was apparently Deep Throat's successor and had ties to the Syndicate, but he often seemed like he hurt more than he helped. While Deep Throat would show Mulder what he needed to see, X was just kind of an unhelpful dick and got in the way a lot of the time. Was his purpose mostly to waste Mulder's time? He led Mulder to Marita, but only in his dying minutes.
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Feb 4, 2016 01:40
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I like the fan theory that Deep Throat and X were a couple, and that's why he so reluctantly came to Mulder but helped in such a limited way anyway.Chairman Capone posted:Wasn't Marita also working for the Syndicate the entire time? sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 00:58
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Where are fans getting this from? X and Deep Throat are pretty clearly colleagues or mentor/mentee. X just doesn't place as much faith in Mulder as DT did. The idea that loyalty so fierce so as to endanger your career and life many times by leaking sensitive information against your better judgement could be more than professional isn't really a novel concept. I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea, but it's fun to watch X's scenes with that in mind.
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Feb 5, 2016 05:38
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Big Mean Jerk posted:But there's nothing in the show to lend evidence to that theory. Why isn't "not wanting a secret cabal of sinister alien collaborators to continue unethical experiments and child abductions for a project that will result in slavery or death for the entire human race" motivation enough for that character? I don't understand fandom sometimes. To be fair this was before every single fandom in the world shipped literally every single possible pair of characters together. This wasn't a "fandoms lol" thing. We're talking about a small group of people on old school mid 90s internet Fox forums who literally invented "shipping" specifically for the two main characters, so you can't really compare it to today's fandom standards. I don't even think fandom was a word back then, or at least not commonly in use. People came up with unsupported theories all the time in the early days of the show. I didn't say I believed it.
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There are a couple loose ends with Fight the Future that I'm wondering how people interpret: 1) After the other scientists lock in and bury the scientist who got attacked by the alien, is there now just a savage murdery alien buried directly under a playground in Texas? 2) How the hell did they get back from Antarctica? Everything was evacuated, Mulder ran out of gas, and the ship was gone.
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Feb 6, 2016 03:15
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bobkatt013 posted:It was Leyla Harrison in Alone They still didn't answer the question. Mulder and Scully just got into a debate over whether or not it was a spaceship.
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Feb 6, 2016 23:45
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Agreed, and also, what is shipping? The old school official Fox X-Files forums for the show had two groups: One for "Shippers" (people who wanted Mulder/Scully to have a relationship) and "Noromos" (people who were against a romance). They'd fight about it and create huge flamewars. It's every bit as dumb as it sounds. The mods of the board eventually gave them each a subforum so the rest of the people wouldn't have to read it. Fanfics for that sort of thing had been done before, but I believe that's the first instance of both terms as far as a fandom division on a TV show. Some ran away with fan fiction but in general it was mostly discussion to start. Since then shipping has become commonplace in every fandom everywhere, between every character you can think of, even ones not in the same fictional universe, because the internet is terrible.
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It felt like two good episodes mashed together to make one decent episode. Like each story was good on its own, but took focus away from the other and didn't quite gel fully. Usually in episodes with deeply personal family stuff it's either mytharc, or the MOTW has a personal connection. Weird that they suddenly threw Charlie in there too. He's been referenced all of what, 4 times in the entire run of the show? I'm wondering if the quarter will come back before the end too.
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Feb 9, 2016 07:14
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I like having old writers back, but if they do another miniseries, I think it's time to bring in some new blood. Darin Morgan is the only one who proved he still has it 100%. On the contrary, they couldn't get Vince Gilligan for this season due to his shooting schedule, but considering how he's still knocking it out of the park with his own shows and had some of the best X-Files episodes I'd love to see what he could bring to the new show.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:17
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Supercar Gautier posted:I recall that was also during the awkward period of the show where Mulder and Scully were off the X-Files but kept running into paranormal stuff by pure chance. They did that a few times. Season 2 is them working on getting the X-Files reopened, Season 5 is stumbling into X-Files, and Season 6 is them being reassigned but secretly working on the X-Files. Season 6 is a lot better than I remembered. It's surprisingly consistent for being relatively late in the show, and has a lot of greats like Dreamland, Drive, Monday, and Field Trip, as well as the mytharcs with Spender and Fowley (though I always thought they could've done more with them as rival agents if Mimi Rogers had been available more). I also love that the most recent episode had a callback to S6, specifically differentiating that the Trashman wasn't a tulpa because Mulder's already seen a trash tulpa in Arcadia.
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I actually really liked mini-Mulder/Scully, and Mulder's trip was funny. Lauren Ambrose is great. But... maaaaybe don't put a country line dance number and a whimsical mushroom trip in with your heavy Muslim terrorist Texan racism plotline and then end with a twee philosophy conversation about the duality of man with an upbeat soundtrack? There have been times to get out their sillies. This isn't one of them. I have no idea what they were going for.
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Feb 16, 2016 09:04
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I'm going to pretend this episode was a sequel to Field Trip and they're still stuck in the giant mushroom.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Maybe because they're adult enough to recognize Islamic terrorists are actually a real thing in the world? Big Mean Jerk posted:How you feel about that episode probably depends on whether or not you like baseball episodes. Personally, I love it, but I can see why others would be ambivalent about it. There's some great elements; This is from a few pages back, but since I just watched it: Was Darren McGavin unavailable due to his health or was he working elsewhere? He was a great recurring character, and the "my brother has the same first name and we looked exactly alike when we were younger" thing in that episode didn't sit well with me. I really wish they'd given Fredric Lane his own 1950s X-Files spinoff. Arthur Dales is a fun character, and they could've easily thrown in Spender's actor as the young CSM again.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:33
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Another issue I have plotwise is that you'd think with only a 6 episode run, they'd make all of them actually X-Files. A conventional crime solved in an unconventional way isn't really what they do or have ever done. I'm all for new directions in a series revival, but that's not really a new direction. It's the opposite; the same old typical crime show direction except with a drug trippy twist.
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computer parts posted:"Aubrey" in S2 was exceedingly mundane, as was "Our Town" (the gimmick in the latter is just "oh hey these guys are cannibals and maybe eating human flesh keeps people young, but who knows). What I mean is, with a 6 episode limit in which they reopened the titular case files, they could've stuck to those titular case files.
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Mortanis posted:I get hate. It just baffles me when people crank that up to 11 with some need to out do everyone else. It's not just "hate", it's a vitriolic, aggressive making GBS threads. Things can't just be "bad", they have to be the worst thing ever and it hosed your childhood dog and then shot it in front of you. I totally get seriously disliking something but the responses go far, far beyond that. Well sure I guess if you only see everything in binary measures and are the type of person who tells the internet they're not worth your posts there are most definitely not some very fair criticisms of the episode's negative points in the thread, but if you're a normal human being there might be some grains of validity you can sift through.
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One thing people are glossing over a lot is that it's silly to expect more of the same or even demanding something wholly original, considering that since the mid 90s everyone's constantly been trying to ape this show's formula to varying success. Spooky horror procedurals with overarching serial mythos were absolutely not a common thing on TV 20 years ago, and now look how prevalent it is - especially with those ramping up the serial aspect. It was a huge cultural phenomenon and paved the way for everything else of its kind (along with Twin Peaks) so if it doesn't feel quite like The X-Files, it probably shouldn't; it's been copied and imitated for 20 years. So of course it feels like a parody or imitation of itself sometimes. It's not just trying to follow itself, which is hard enough, it's trying to follow everything else it spawned or influenced. That's true of anything that comes back after so long and affected so many. You'll never quite capture that feeling again no matter how good you are because it was very much a product of its time. Hell, the whole first episode this season was the show catching up with itself and the times.
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Feb 18, 2016 02:32
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They'll find out William was taken under weird circumstances, and William will become the new Samantha but for both of them.
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Feb 22, 2016 06:20
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That was a cool episode and you're all a bunch of babies.
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Feb 23, 2016 07:36
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My favorite part was the part where a bunch of self-entitled whiny people didn't get exactly what they wanted out of a TV show so they lost their poo poo about it and complained online.
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Joel McHale's character was clearly an exaggerating conspiracy nut but some of his paranoia led people to the truth if you filtered through his aggrandizing bullshit like the chemtrails comment, which Scully's plot had already disproven. If you believe in every conspiracy you're bound to hit a few. He's a much further over the top Mulder and was always supposed to be.
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Mortanis posted:Bunch of baby whiners in this thread. So much hyperbole. It wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. gently caress goons and their need to one up each other over how much they have a hate boner for something more than anyone else. Relayer posted:I really like episodes that are "realistic" in that there isn't any supernatural force\creature as a central plot element. That one comes to mind where that pervy inmate seems to know a lot about mulder's sister and mulder tricks him into describing the abduction in the wrong house. I think he ends up on a schoolbus or something and gets shot? The guy was basically just a creepy psychopath who was really good at manipulating people, and he just knew a lot about Mulder. There wasn't anything supernatural in that episode and I remember really liking it. Paper Hearts. The killer was played by Tom Noonan, who is great. He's on the 12 Monkeys series now, which is a really cool show.
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joepinetree posted:Ah, yes, it is the "internet environment" that has caused this "different" reaction. Because people just loved seasons 7 through 9 back then, right? The X Files went out on top and everybody loved those infinite resets of the mytharc. It is just that the internet environment has changed this time around. Sounds plausible. Chairman Capone posted:Also, what was the deal with the alien graffiti that Tad O'Malley talked about being spray painted in neighborhoods being targeted? Is that actually a piece of InfoWars type paranoia in the real world? It was one of the few things I didn't recognize as "actually" existing. Like I said, O'Malley was a crackpot conspiracy theorist who believed everything, even beyond what Mulder believes. So when he latched onto a real conspiracy he added a bunch of paranoid bullshit like chemtrails and alien graffiti, while Scully had already long since proven it was the smallpox vaccination that spread it.
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