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Christie Declares Christie Exonerated! Whew! Sure glad that's all over with. And to think the Dems would have gotten away with it if not for that smiley photo.
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I don't know what to credit, but I was pleasantly surprised pretty much every news outlet seemed keen on avoiding taking the bait on this one. Everything I read made reference to how ridiculous this investigation was in their headlines and first paragraphs, and half of them made it a point to remind everyone their tax dollars paid for some PR bullshit that no one honestly believes.
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Mar 28, 2014 18:01
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Yeah I think Christie is no longer made of Teflon in the media's view
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Mar 28, 2014 18:08
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So yeah, they also throw Wildstein under the bus, but they don't go all "flighty, emotional woman"  like they do with Kelly. Yay sexism!http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/nyregion/irate-friends-see-sexism-in-report-on-former-christie-aide.html Also, Samson is nowhere in the report. lol
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Mar 28, 2014 18:53
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Wildstein already had his moment as far as getting thrown under the bus when Christie attempted to distance himself from him and in doing so created this bizarre high-school score-settling impression.
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Mar 28, 2014 19:13
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Report as summarized is mostly what I expected, though I thought we'd get an email tidbit or two (maybe they don't have access to those since people were working with private email addresses) and I thought they might take this chance to move Samson to the Christie naughty list just to create the illusion of hard-headed fact-finding and consequences (and also to succumb to the fact that he was demonstrably involved). But nope it's just pulp fiction. Kelly and Stepien sitting in a tree, then they weren't so... gently caress Ft. Lee?
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Mar 28, 2014 19:42
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Samson just resigned
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Mar 28, 2014 19:52
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In this press conference, Christie claims that he's "mystified" that this kind of thing could happen, but he's not sure if we'll ever know the true motives behind the bridge closings. He hopes, but he can't say for sure. lol This idiot is either profoundly incurious or utterly corrupt. Take your pick! J. P. Beagley fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Mar 28, 2014 19:58
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the boston bomber posted:Samson just resigned
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Mar 28, 2014 20:01
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Christie will not rest until he finds the real bridge closer.
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Mar 28, 2014 20:02
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah I think Christie is no longer made of Teflon in the media's view Only thing the media loves more than a hero is to see a hero fall.
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Mar 28, 2014 20:06
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Radish posted:Christie will not rest until he finds the real bridge closer. Eagerly awaiting thousands of bulk ordered copies of "If I closed it..." showing up on my local 2nd hand stores shelves.
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Mar 28, 2014 20:50
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If the...anything, really...doesn't fit, you must acquit.
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Mar 28, 2014 20:52
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If the gastric band doesn't fit, you must acquit.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:20
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Republicans like smug superiority (Bush), they don't dickish incompetence. The reason people thought he ever had a chance is because they forgot he would actually have to campaign at some point. If it wasn't this it was going to be something else, except at an even more damaging time in the campaign cycle. A big flaming stink posted:There's a difference between being a predatory capitalist that has absolute contempt for the poor and being a petty fat bully that has no sense of proportion. Yep, if you think Romney's business / capitalism credentials were initially a negative to the public at large you've been spending too much time in a forum with active marxism threads- it's hardly a negative a priori in America.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:44
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enbot posted:Republicans like smug superiority (Bush), they don't dickish incompetence. The reason people thought he ever had a chance is because they forgot he would actually have to campaign at some point. If it wasn't this it was going to be something else, except at an even more damaging time in the campaign cycle. From what I've seen these last 10 years, they like whatever is convenient for their goals at the time or is just plain contrary to the opposition. I'm racking my brain to come up with somebody that seems to sincerely believe in the overarching ideology instead of just wanting to get paid.
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Mar 28, 2014 22:13
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enbot posted:Yep, if you think Romney's business / capitalism credentials were initially a negative to the public at large you've been spending too much time in a forum with active marxism threads- it's hardly a negative a priori in America. The specifics of his activities as a venture capitalist weren't exactly a boon for Romney. It wasn't just Obama who attacked him for shutting down factories and stripping companies of their assets, the original attacks on that front came from Newt Gingrich during the Republican primary. Being a successful businessman isn't necessarily a liability in American politics but given the general tenor of the 2012 election I definitely don't think Romney's background helped him. If he'd been a successful tech entrepreneur or something then I could have seen his background being a bonus but the fact that Romney's profits largely came from shutting down unprofitable enterprises and selling off their carcases left him wide open to all sorts of populist attacks.
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Mar 28, 2014 23:27
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Helsing posted:Being a successful businessman isn't necessarily a liability in American politics but given the general tenor of the 2012 election I definitely don't think Romney's background helped him. If he'd been a successful tech entrepreneur or something then I could have seen his background being a bonus but the fact that Romney's profits largely came from shutting down unprofitable enterprises and selling off their carcases left him wide open to all sorts of populist attacks. Also, Romney won the nomination as he shut the gently caress up and let all the others knock each other out first. Each of them took the lead in the polls, and when the public scrutinized them for whatever poo poo they had done, they failed and were removed from the running. There were four at the last, Romney, Jesus Frothy Freak, End the Fed Freak, and Moon Base Freak. No one knew poo poo about Romney apart from he was rich and Mormon. And they chose 'rich' as the least worst.
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Mar 28, 2014 23:35
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Moon Base Freak had him so scared he basically carpet bombed his whole campaign with hundred dollar bills.
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Mar 28, 2014 23:46
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Naga Warlord posted:In this press conference, Christie claims that he's "mystified" that this kind of thing could happen, but he's not sure if we'll ever know the true motives behind the bridge closings. He hopes, but he can't say for sure. lol Yeah either conclusion is bad for his future, either he knew what was going or was so in the dark that multiple staff members could do lots of shenanigans on the side. He's pretty much going the Ollie North route and tossing subordinates under the bus to cover his bully political machine tactics. etalian fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 29, 2014 00:28
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I can't wait for Christie to come in 5th in New Hampshire, flame out of the primaries a couple of weeks later and then put on another hundred pounds.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:So yeah, they also throw Wildstein under the bus, but they don't go all "flighty, emotional woman" Guys. This was all a big miscommunication. Bridget Kelly calls her ladybits "Fort Lee" and "traffic problems" is a euphamism for sexytime.
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Mar 29, 2014 17:13
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lamb posted:Guys. This was all a big miscommunication. Bridget Kelly calls her ladybits "Fort Lee" and "traffic problems" is a euphamism for sexytime. slutty subordinate closed the bridge in a fit of irrational womanlike decision making The whole internal review was a hilarious charade since it focused on selling the out of control irresponsible subordinate story while ignoring all the other elements of story such as the Port Authority involvement.
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Mar 29, 2014 17:14
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A statement from her attorney hints that Kelly may be open to cooperating if she's given the appropriate legal protections. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/briget-kelly-responds_n_5052368.html
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Mar 29, 2014 22:33
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FlamingLiberal posted:A statement from her attorney hints that Kelly may be open to cooperating if she's given the appropriate legal protections. "Promise me that I'll get off scot free and I'll tell you what I know." "Sure, here you go." "I don't know anything more than you do! Ha Ha!" "Welp."
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Mar 29, 2014 22:38
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Gerund posted:"Promise me that I'll get off scot free and I'll tell you what I know." It really is just mob prosecution 101. Kelly did the bad thing, but I don't doubt that if they promise her immunity she'll flip on Christie in an instant. And lets be honest, Christie was involve.
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Mar 29, 2014 23:10
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Gerund posted:"Promise me that I'll get off scot free and I'll tell you what I know." most immunity deals would involve this for that trade, you pretty much have to provide useful info as part of the immunity deal.
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Mar 29, 2014 23:12
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Immunity deals can still be voided if the witness doesn't cooperate.
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Mar 29, 2014 23:52
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FlamingLiberal posted:Immunity deals can still be voided if the witness doesn't cooperate. How about if the witness cooperates but simply fails to deliver? I.e. it's just a ruse to give Christie ammunition to say "THEY'RE HANDING OUT IMMUNITY TO MY STAFF FOR WHAT?" E: not sure why I put victim there. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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Mar 30, 2014 10:08
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FAUXTON posted:How about if the witness cooperates but simply fails to deliver? I.e. it's just a ruse to give Christie ammunition to say "THEY'RE HANDING OUT IMMUNITY TO MY STAFF FOR WHAT?"
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FAUXTON posted:How about if the witness cooperates but simply fails to deliver? I.e. it's just a ruse to give Christie ammunition to say "THEY'RE HANDING OUT IMMUNITY TO MY STAFF FOR WHAT?" I doubt he'd fall for that. He's formerly a prosecutor, remember?
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Mar 30, 2014 17:19
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Volmarias posted:I doubt he'd fall for that. He's formerly a prosecutor, remember? A job he got through dubious political connections seeing how Christie neither had the work experience or educational background for the job,
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BridgeGate Hits Next Level As Feds Launch Grand Jury Investigationquote:Federal prosecutors in New Jersey have convened a grand jury to investigate the George Washington Bridge lane closures, ABC News reported on Friday. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bridge-scandal-grand-jury Is this a big deal or an expected development?
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Apr 5, 2014 02:25
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Naga Warlord posted:BridgeGate Hits Next Level As Feds Launch Grand Jury Investigation Maddow led with this tonight: as far as she can tell it's just a continuation of the grand jury that's been convened already to issue subpoenas, not a brand new one that's charging in guns blazing. In other words, not a big deal.
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Apr 5, 2014 02:46
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Just to play a little alt-history, if in the "I fired Kelly because she lied to me" presser someone had had the guts to ask Christie "should NJ fire you if you're lying to us now?" there would already be a lot of "should Christie resign?" stuff flying around.
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pangstrom posted:Just to play a little alt-history, if in the "I fired Kelly because she lied to me" presser someone had had the guts to ask Christie "should NJ fire you if you're lying to us now?" there would already be a lot of "should Christie resign?" stuff flying around. "The people can fire me if they think I'm doing a bad job, but my ~electoral mandate~ answers that question  "
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Looks like David Wildstein has started cooperating with the feds.
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“When I first heard that he was accused of blocking off three lanes on the bridge, I said, ‘What the hell is he doing, standing in the middle of the bridge?” Chris Christie responds to getting roasted with his characteristic good humour and class. In fact he only tried to snatch away Joy Behar's notes once during the entire 2 minute segment, showing some real restraint on his part.
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Apr 8, 2014 20:53
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If his skin's that thin about it it's to guarantee the scandal remains an issue, whether or not he suffers legal consequences. That was an entirely predictable joke.
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