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Boogaleeboo posted:You also can't create something from nothing normally. He can. The degree to which 'the rules' apply to him is up in the air. Yeah but he did that in the spirit barrier where breaking the rules isn't punished as much if at all.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2014 06:55 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 01:08 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:You can't do it at all, it isn't something that happens with magic as everyone else uses it. Ever. Not in a spirit barrier, not anywhere. Conservation of mass is still a thing that applies to magic as they know it. The zombies in those barriers are spirits drawn from the environment and shaped into zombies. They aren't just magic'ed out of thin air. What his Gamer power does *actually* creates something from nothing, and is described less as magic and more as a miracle. The spirit of the world just going with the flow. As it's that same spirit that punishes people, there's a chance it just wouldn't if he did something crazy. Yes i understand that, but what i'm saying is that the spirit barrier nullifies the consequences for doing such miracles (even if they aren't normally possible). So while he's doing the impossible it isn't the same as using a power in the world because the spirit barrier has no consequences for breaking the rules.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2014 21:57 |
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nielsm posted:Except that he still brought those 500k Won out of the barrier after defeating the boss monster. Certainly that has an influence on the real world, and it was money seemingly created from nothing. Yeah it's going to be interesting to see if he really is exempt from the rules like that.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2014 07:22 |
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I think part of his problem is that creating a move from scratch is a bit harder than just imagination and yelling out a name.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2014 06:16 |
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XboxPants posted:It's definitely an interesting topic; if one argues that you shouldn't have any foreign words, even when there's no equivalent concept, how far do you go in erasing the foreign-ness? Should "okonomiyaki" be translated as pancake, "shamisen" as ukelele? I disagree with that kind of thinking because the further you go down that hole, the more of the original meaning is lost. If you're going to be doing that much re-writing of a story, then isn't that goal better served by going ahead and just making an entirely new adaptation of the story into the target cultural context? That's like arguing that because you're removing honorifics you should also be translating foreign names literally. And as for "untranslatable concepts" I call bullshit. Just because something doesn't have a direct easy 1 to 1 translation doesn't mean it's untranslatable it means you have to be flexible and creative. In the case of "Noona" there may be multiple words you can use, something like Lady or Big Sister depending on the context.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2014 16:38 |
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Einander posted:Man, that would be so overpowered. In the pokemon world guns are a fish.
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# ¿ May 16, 2014 23:07 |
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I Think it's more that instead of like praying the curse away or purifying it he just uses mana to grab the fucker and rip it off.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2014 18:25 |
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Honestly i was thinking he should have just pumped luck because everything else is something he can gain through training. hell knowing his ability luck would make it more likely to gain stat points from doing related stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 05:14 |
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Exactly his being a wizard should be way more taxing on the world than stat point increases.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2014 06:00 |
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guys as far as we know he doesn't have a limit to his stats, he's not wasting any resource but time and he's not wasing that either because he can train his wizard poo poo and physical stuff at the same time.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 09:33 |
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Clarste posted:He's training "normally" for physical stuff though, meaning he can't really be any better than a normal person, manhwa super martial arts aside. He'd actually have to put, like, effort into it. By contrast he magically gets floating stat points for beating up monsters, allowing him to pump things to extreme superhuman levels. The other side of the coin about his new training regimen is that he's now too smart to actually learn anything by studying. He literally cannot get smarter by mundane means. No he's training normally for that day he's going to be training with Sun-Il "tomarrow" using his family's training methods.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 10:33 |
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Also the witch is gonna hit on him again but yeah that sound about right.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2014 09:18 |
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The Evil Thing posted:
You know, they sell stolen people on the abyss auction i don't think anyone would blink at stolen stuff.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2014 03:13 |
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buzmeg posted:Gnome is going to upgrade the golem's expression from cyclops to .
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2014 00:27 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Aren't Temporary Magician and Existence Eater the same person? Meaning, the former title is derogatory and refers to his unsuccessful job search. If so, he absolutely is not Jee-Han's father. Also i think they were refereed to as a teenager.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2015 01:26 |
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My theory is that it won't have anything to do with jee han's powers but our little antagonist group is going to create a mobile game that reverse microtransactions parts of the player's soul to create the philosopher's stone.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 16:58 |
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I think the dungeon is DLC in that it was specifically created to be a dungeon and not just a ID.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 00:29 |
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mossyfisk posted:So I'm assuming it's his power that is creating the labyrinth? someone else created the labyrinth and his power adapted it for him that's why it's DLC
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2015 19:41 |
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Ytlaya posted:While this may be true in most games (largely due to the way parties work), I don't think it's really true in real life. Being super good at one thing just means you have other gaping weaknesses that are easy to exploit as long as other people know what you're super good at. Not only that but Jee-han can train multiple skills at one time increase stats and skills just through grinding and he doesn't seem to have a limit honestly his biggest weakness is being "the gamer" he sees everything as a game and isn't thinking about it being real life that's gamified like he chose a "class" but real life doesn't have classes there's no reason why he didn't pick up weapon skills to complement his magic.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2015 06:46 |
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Clarste posted:He can't literally train every single skill at once: it takes time. And more importantly, is probably based on his stats. Actually we've seen him train a lot of skills at the same time and no limit has been mentioned, and the reason given was that firing arrows was slower than people in the abyss can move. Also if there was anyone who can cancel magic in the abyss he would be way worse off than if he knew some other stuff not to mention the skill synergies he could gain.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2015 08:17 |
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Clarste posted:And everyone knows that in KMMOs, specialization is the only way to get anything done. quote:Also, I feel like the hypothetical threat of "someone who can cancel magic" is no more plausible than "someone who will always win, no matter what". Even martial arts in the Abyss invovles manipulating ki, so it's all magic anyway... Actually that's not completely true it's all the same to jee-han because of his gamer power genericifying everything just like it genericifies all damage done to him to hp, loli-nuna was even complaining how bullshit it was that he can raise his mana capacity by doing ki training. It's very possible that someone could have an ability that suspends magic that would put jeehan in a worse place than a normal ki user because of his ability and having actual fighting skills could help him survive in such a situation. but that's completely theoretical.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 08:37 |
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I assume the plan is to do it slow and quiet like so that everyone thinks it's a dream.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 18:22 |
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deadly_pudding posted:I'm pretty sure this is the scheme that those guys were hatching about f2p games like a month or two ago. Maybe they're using the collected "attention" energy from people to create a god in the dungeon, and teleporting people into it when they volunteer to do so by clicking yes in that dialogue is their way of getting human sacrifices for said god. i think the transport is just a more efficient way of gathering energy, the whole godmaking seems more like a side effect than the purpose.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 08:21 |
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Captain Bravo posted:I like how everyone is so focused on the "lol Jee-Han has a harem" that nobody pointed out the real shocker of the chapter: I assumed that since he "downloaded" their content any dungeons he makes are still their dungeons.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2015 08:28 |
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:This is what I thought. It wasn't Jee-han's DLC, its just DLC. Anyone can access the same DLC(apparently). yeah it seems like his powers allow for anytime access whereas normal people have to be teleported there by the mobile version.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2015 23:36 |
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Ytlaya posted:I really hope that his buddy manages to snatch one of his love interests from him (maybe the red-head chick since they're both fighters). He's a pretty cool guy. but they're from rival clans
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2015 22:12 |
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Well they gave them those books cause the technique was just basic poo poo they didn't really care about and trading low level techniques fosters goodwill and cooperation between clans.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 16:51 |
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I feel like if he could respawn that would have been a skill he noticed.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 06:17 |
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Heck charisma may not do anything out side of the dungeon also it could be personality and force of will not attractiveness.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:59 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Well, if the dungeon stuff adds the stat to people and not just monsters, that is reality fuckery on par with Jee-Han. technically an illusion barrier isn't actually reality you can do fuckery inside them as much as you want.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 10:49 |
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Ice Phisherman posted:I'd like to note that the fat stack of healing potions he's sitting on are ten million won a piece. That's currently 8,673 dollars. he needs to boost luck. luck is always the god stat.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 09:22 |
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friendly reminder jee-han is a KMMO character not a console rpg character.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 09:10 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Meaning grinding is all he can do, but he might get some flashy cosmetic items out of it if he ever finds the cash shop to directly buy things from gaia. he already gets real money to buy items that improve his power the world is his cash shop
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 09:21 |
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My biggest problem with the class prez and the reason i don't think she'll be important for very long is her powerset is more or less the exact same as jee han's
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2015 18:19 |
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it's not about powerlevels, it's the fact that one person standing in the air raining down magic arrows is boring enough we don't need two.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2015 18:27 |
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yeah gaia only gets pissed if he fucks up the perception of reality for normies.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 11:22 |
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Ytlaya posted:I kind of want another "specialist" type character like Jee-han to be introduced. We were told early on that some people naturally are gifted with certain abilities, but I think Jee-han is the only example we've seen. the corporation guy is definitely "one" of those
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2016 08:30 |
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nimby posted:Does he have any mana potions? Maybe Jee-Han could get pseudo-unlimited mana. he does have nearly unlimited mana that's basically his whole spec also hasn't defensively buffed or pulled out gnome or used his 100-ish stat points
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 11:15 |
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Should have stopped at 100 just to get the passives. Exactly getting more of those passives instead of mindlessly dumping points in one stat seems like it would be way more effective
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2016 07:18 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 01:08 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Can he even level up the passives he gets from stat thresholds? If so, I don't think it has ever come up. There hasn't been a skill summary in a long rear end time. i assume he levels them by using magic +putting points into int
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 08:39 |