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I think the single biggest sticking point of letdown about SC2, story wise, was Fenix NEVER being mentioned. Maybe he got talked about in HotS, I don't know, I didn't finish it. Brood Wars was one of my favorite games ever but I haven't touched SC2 in ages.  You know, in StarCraft and Liberty's Crusade the relationship Raynor and Kerrigan had was never more then "We should have coffee" which kinda bugs me. That and Raynor going from blonde, shaved head and kinda husky to chiseled gruff space marine. e: I wasn't a fan of HotS' single player gameplay so that was a loss too. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Feinne posted:Fenix might get a mention in Legacy, but he's pretty dead after all. Jim Raynor: Fenix! No! Sarah Kerrigan: What are you worried about, Jim? He died the way all Protoss hope to: in combat! Jim Raynor: He died because you betrayed him! How many more noble souls do you need to consume before you're satisfied?! How many more innocent people have to die before you realize what you've become?! Sarah Kerrigan: You don't even know what you're talking about, Jim. Jim Raynor: Don't I? I'll see you dead for this, Kerrigan! For Fenix, and all the others who got caught between you and your mad quest for power! Sarah Kerrigan: Tough talk, Jimmy, but I don't think you have what it takes to be a killer. Jim Raynor: It may not be tomorrow, darlin', it may not even happen with an army at my back. But rest assured: I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day! I'll be seeing you!
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Feb 5, 2014 22:48
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UMS kinda suck a lot in SC2.
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Feb 6, 2014 03:51
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Coolguye posted:
Starcraft IS a Warhammer ripoff.. But the current Tyranids are far different from the old ones. Nids are more inspired by Zerg then vice versa in modern day appearances.
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Feb 9, 2014 00:37
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Raldan posted:Voting Closed! I've been playing SC 2 again trying to get down why I don't like it. as a result I've only followed the LP off and on, but are you going to do You're So Crazy?
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Mar 30, 2014 14:05
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The Dig, Vanadium Plating, Advanced Medical Facilities, Twin-Linked Flamethrowers Reactor Medics are amazing, and the game throws lots of Zealots, Marines or Zerglings at you depending on the mission. More HP is good because the attack speed bonus is negligable anyways. The Dig because Siege Tanks on the train robbery are hilarious. Spudd posted:Put me in for this vote. The Goliath and (Non-Dominion) Merc Goliath are based off of two of sc 2 devs.  DFlux posted:Its not like any of the Starcraft factions are known for their multi-cultural tolerance and understanding hence why the galaxy is in the current poo poo show that it is. Hell, the Protoss still burn Terran worlds if they come across one with a Zerg infestation. Even after all that happened in the first game and its expansion. Artanis is pretty good for it. Or he was in Brood Wars, who knows if that'll change for no reason with no explanation. Poil posted:
No, the zerg are pretty keen to slaughter Terran. Infested Terran and the like are usually reconstituted. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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How much SC 1 story have you covered? I've only seen two videos and I can explain some if you havne't done so yet. I want to eventually get back around to the Brood Wars LP I only did a few missions of, but eh.Raldan posted:Yes, I will be showing of everything I can. I've not seen the specific video yet but for The Devil's Playground are you going to, if you haven't, done The Scenic Route (Destroy all zerg everything)? As much as I dislike the story and the multiplayer, the gameplay itself of the campaign is great. DFlux posted:Yeah the only Protoss that actually care about the Terrans and their well being as a whole are the ones that Raynor befriended and helped. All the other ones don't really care about humanity. Also from what I've seen you really don't want to be part of the Zerg collective. The thing is, most of the Protoss are those guys now as the vast majority died in Brood Wars. The Tal-Darim are new and any other groups are new. In BW it was just the survivors of Aiur with Artanis and Zeratul (until he left) on Shakurus after Raynor helped Artanis' company escape off of Aiur. --- So some story talk. I put more thought into it then most, I suppose, because Starcraft was one of the first stories, ever, that I encountered and it really has a special place in my heart as a result. It really bugs me how Raynor's nowhere near the same guy he was in the original. I mean aside from being bald and having a rounder face then his chiseled space marine visage. The guy was never shown to being beyond a casual interest in Kerrigan. I guess you could argue that he stewed in failure for four (Why only four, it doesn't make sense and it was longer then that in real time anyways) years but why not, I don't know, stew in failure over his best friends' fate? He was friends with Fenix, Zeratul and Artanis and only had any idea what the lattermost's fate was yet he's yet to bring up any of them in a conversation with Horner or any of the other guys. Regardless, his mopy-ness makes one wonder why he's the leader still. I liked the original draft more. The crew members in the background had some more to do, and one of them was going to lead a mutiny. That'd have been more interesting then silently following Raynor's agenda, but oh well. It's hardly the only missed opportunity, but it's the only one that would've happened by now as far as I'm aware. Speaking of conversations, another peeve of mine is how conversations work. They're basically two way spitting dialogue back and forth. Brood Wars just had up to four portraits together at a time but that still let more dynamic conversations happen. In the end though at least Wings of Liberty isn't as bad as Heart of the Swarm story wise, even with the removed elements excluded. But that's not something we'll be seeing for a long, long time now. --- Trivia I learned from an older iteration of the Gamers.txt thread: Tychus' VA played a parody of Tychus in a Star/Warcraft porn parody. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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The Dominion being a power is still one of the most ridiculous things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGlVTIL8Oc "Sooner or later, you'll make a mistake. And when you do.." "..I'll somehow make a multi-world empire with substantial technological advancements." CommissarMega posted:Apparently he voiced the main character in a porn game. From his wiki article: I like to imagine he wasn't happy with Tychus for whatever reason. He doesn't appear to be his VA in Heroes of the Storm DFlux posted:Depends on how advanced the UED society is I suppose. Starcraft never really tells us much about Earth, only that it still exists and that where Terrans come from. And yeah what came in brood wars was just an expeditionary fleet, but even then the UED's tech should still be better then the Terrans. Actually has it ever been said how long the Terrans have been in the Koprulu sector? I sure can't remember if its ever been stated. As for the the stealing battlecruisers thing I don't remember. Don't really remember much about Brood Wars really.(its been to long)I just remember the gist of each episode. Apparently Earth was at the point the Terrans are now back when the Terrans were first sent over, but the major difference is that they have drastically widespread/sophisticated Psi because it got cultivated in the general Terran population by the trip over. Supposedly the loss of the expeditionary fleet was so minor that it was mostly forgotten. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Star Man posted:Also I love it when no one can spell Brood War. What? Feinne posted:Yeah, and as noted the two characters addressed as such probably are both in SC2 since it's definitely Artanis and possibly Selendis. I don't recall what the Magistrate is up to though I think he's still with Raynor maybe, and the Cerebrate has gone to the big Hive in the sky along with all the rest of those now-obsolete entities. I was re-reading the thread and I felt I might well explain this. The Magistrate was with Raynor post Episode 1 for a few weeks then split to go into hiding. The Cerebrate from Episode 2/VI died at the conclusion of Episode VI when Kerrigan ran out of use for it. (Incidently she started being a lot less effective after that, go figure). The Episode 3 Executor was Artanis, IV was possibly Selendis and the Episode V UED Captain founded the Spartan Company mercs.
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The stuff I talked about was from a few of the books. The Magistrate thing was from Queen of Blades, I think. What can I say, I'm a huge Starcraft nerd.  AradoBalanga posted:As for Matt Horner, my personal belief is that he was going to be the Magistrate, but then got rewritten for some reason and resulted in the novel version/the one we see in this game. I am also with JT Jag on Matt being the player character from Episode I makes for a much better relationship between Matt and Jim. They said he was at one point, but then they flip flopped on it for whatever reason. I think they didn't want Matt to have a connection with Mengsk or Kerrigan. Veloxyll posted:Even when one of them was boss enough to take on Artanis, the UED and the Dominion while Kerrigan had the rest of the Swarm Planetside. There's a few floating around in pseudo-canon limbo because of Deception and Retribution, the two non-Blizzard Starcraft expansions. Now you might say that they're all just non-canon but then there's a few big elements, one in particular for HotS that very much ARE canon.. This may or may not be relevant in legacy of the void, but considering Blizzard's awful writing lately I doubt it will be unless they pull a Reaper of Souls.
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Kurieg posted:Dude, edit that out. He shows up in this game. In a mission where Kerrigan specifically says "Hey kids, remember Brood War? We don't but just in case you do.."
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Cythereal posted:Blizzard's already confirmed that Zeratul will be the protagonist, sorry. Really? I thought it was supposed to have been Artanis.
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Feinne posted:That was the April Fools joke that also retitled Herald of the Stars so they could use the same acronym. No, I mean before Wings of Liberty came out the outline for LotV was "styled after diplomacy, you play as Artanis trying to unite the disparate Protoss tribes".
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Kurieg posted:The other non-canon mission is more fun than it's counterpart as well. You're nuts.
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:I'm loving the LP but I've never played StarCraft so I'm not too familiar with the story and characters. Is there a decent LP of the first game and/or Brood War with a non-irritating LPer? The ones I've found on YouTube all seem to have that "now I want to stab something" quality. I can't say there is offhand but I know there's a person on two on SA who want to do one sometime in the future.
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The_Frag_Man posted:Man the new voice actor for Zeratul just doesn't have the same character as the original. Same with Artanis, as they share the same voice actor. WoL/HotS was just so full of dissapointments.
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CrazySalamander posted:Spider mines. Widow Mines. 
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Veloxyll posted:Orgrimmar was only a setback! The funny thing is, if my memory serves, they do have a bunch of somewhat talented/well known writers in their credits for games.
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Apr 20, 2014 07:02
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Speedball posted:At least the Predators look cool. Robot panthers! So do Firebats and they're better in every way.
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J.theYellow posted:And the dumbest addition to the updated design of Starcraft signature characters: Infested Kerrigan's evolved chitinous high heels. You say that now..
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Disco Infiva posted:It is a little known fact that all Zerg just want to look pretty and since Kerrigan is their queen, she can be the *~*prettiest princess*~* of them all. Why else would they come in so many decorative colours? TwoPair posted:Yeah, I mean clearly those bone wings aren't doing poo poo but she keeps growing them for whatever reason. Well, that's how she attacked people in the first, better Starcraft. Spudd posted:She is the Queen Bitch of the Universe, I think they're meant to be bitch heels. You made it up you freak.
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