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Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Oh man we're black bordered again.

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Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Silklash Spider. I don't know why. Maybe it's because she murders the sky itself.


I like seeing everyone's pet cards, this is fun. :)

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
The best thing about the precons is you can build them for cheaper than they cost, usually. Especially on Magic Online.

I have all of them built because it's fun using precons against precons. Some of them are genuinely fun to use.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Before I respond I just have to know which Pokemon it is. This is important for research.



Livingtrope posted:

So tell me, how come fog patch is worded like that and what happens if you cast it against Tromokratis?

Weird varient on fog. If you use it against Tromokratis he's blocked. Even if it says he can't be. It also works on things with landwalk, unblockability, protection from green, etc.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Smashing Link posted:

The Richard Kane Ferguson advantage is you can run 4x Force of Will, 4x Dissipate, and 4x Boomerang which is actually the backbone of a decent deck.

Terese Nielson did Force of Will.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Froghammer posted:

Punisher chat from a few pages back got me wondering: have any punisher cards ever seen non-trivial constructed play?

Skullscorch saw some for a little bit during Odyssey block but nothing really major.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Funnily enough, Longhorn Firebeast does that, but its only a 3/2 for 3.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
They're gun-shy, flat out. Last time they did this was Chronicles.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

quote:

Worth Wollpert ‏@mtgworth 6m
Lots of card fixes in tmw's #MTGO build. Carnage Gladiator, Jace AoT, Sunburst, more. Overdue, but we're picking up the pace in 2014.

We'll see. We'll see.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Dungeon Ecology posted:

Just logged in and I still have the same old Magic "M" in place of my Nighthowler art. Anyone else still missing the art?

Downtime shouldn't have happened yet.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

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quote:

Worth Wollpert #mtgworth 1h
We are aware of the gameplay issues on #MTGO right now. We are rolling the game servers, should be back to normal in <60m. (cont)

Worth Wollpert #mtgworth 1h
If your game is in a bad state, it's not recoverable at this point. Please file for reimbursement. M. Redcap should function normally now.

Worth Wollpert #mtgworth 1h
By gameplay issues I mean the reports of 32k life, Thoughtseize hanging games, etc. No downtime coming, should be back to normal in <60m.

Worth Wollpert #mtgworth 1h
To note: Additional games may still hang over the next 60m, but we should be clear of it all by 2pm Pacific

WHAT DID YOU DO?!

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Nissa is dumb as hell and I love it. Just the idea that there is a planeswalker out there that is just stupid as all gently caress makes me smile.

She likes flowers and doesn't like snakes or vampires but personally if she had to choose her favorite thing is elves. She also manages to travel with Sorin for a while without figuring out he's a vampire.




"I went to this plane and it didn't have elves and it was boring so I left and I went to another plane and it had elves but they were really mean so I came back here."

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

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Entropic posted:

So we have nothing new coming out until May, when Journey Into Nyx, the Modern Event Deck and Jace v Vraska Duel Decks all drop, right?

Jace vs. Vraska - March 14.
Journey into Nyx - April 26 (May 2 Online)
Modern Deck - May 30th
Conspiracy - June 6
Vintage Masters - June 16
Magic 2015 - July 12 (July 18 Online)
From the Vault: Annihilation - August 23

Basically every month, something drops.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Zoness posted:

Richard Wright did my favorite Time Spiral Island art!

Maybe I have terrible taste :negative:.

His poo poo works for Ravnican lands. It's when he starts doing things that aren't, you know, buildings, it gets really noticeable.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
It literally never comes up in the storyline. Onslaught block is a jumbled mess story-wise and easily the worst plotline.

Reminder: Akroma is a panther-taur angel before Legions even starts.
Phage and the Cabal Patriarch have a god-wizard-baby together.
The heroes of the story are literally black silhouettes who are never mentioned in the cards. They get cockroach bodies later on.
Mutations from the Mirari are never really mentioned at all, ever.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Well, remember. Sarkhan's spark ignited because he made contact with a dragon spirit. I am totally fine with GHOST DRAGON world.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Veyrall posted:

I didn't know about this, though. When/where did Nicol Bolas go out of his way to kill other dragons? Granted, it is entirely in keeping with his pattern.

Ugin for one. Dude does not like the idea of other Dragon Planeswalkers.

If anything, Sarkhan is very not-plussed about Bolas after the whole Eldrazi thing. He's not exactly the epitome of dragonhood that Sarkhan reveres.

Chorocojo fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Feb 27, 2014

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

qbert posted:

As someone who just got back into Magic in the last few months, I'm curious: how much were shock lands before the reprint?

During Scars Block, the Guildpact version of Steam Vents was an 8 dollar card. They spiked to 30 around Innistrad's release and maintained that until Return to Ravnica where they started a steady decline that still continues.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

NofrikinfuN posted:

Discussions about card prices really highlight how competitive players in this thread are. Honest question, does anyone here just play kitchen table magic, or are there prizes on the line at every game you play?

Sometimes It seems like most players here would rather give up the hobby rather than play unproven/janky decks.

It's basically all I play anymore. I haven't really played Standard since Darksteel turned me off of that. I play decks built around Mirrorweave and poo poo, it's p.fun.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Cactrot posted:

Ran into the magic equivalent of a sports dad on gameday. I had played against him and lost to his UW control deck, then later saw him making one of his kids (whou couldn't have been older than 14) goldfish an esper deck between rounds, spouting "inspirational" phrases like "top 8 is in here *Points to heart*" and "It's not the cards that win matches, it's you".

There's no way that this was actually as funny as it is in my head. This loving game. :allears:

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

RME posted:

So Wizards made a draft simulator thing I guess, but it only supports M14 at the moment, but I decided to try it anyways. Turns out it's the best draft simulator ever made because it even simulates cards from the wrong set showing up in a booster pack.



It uses Gatherer for the card images, and since the most recent printing of Demolish is Theros it just uses that version. It was in M14 too.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

morning wood posted:

Specifically how to play my burn spells. Is it better to burn enemy creatures and let mine do the work, or do I want to target the other player every time? I understand it's situational but I'm playing off of purely guesswork and table talk advice.

You're right, it's very situational and really the best way is to just play and figure it out through experience. A Frostburn Weird that can get through multiple turns is usually worth more than the 2 damage the Shock that killed their blocker. The trick is identifying what is genuinely a threat. A 1/1 is not usually a valid concern if you've got a 2/2 Rakdos Cackler that is going through every turn.

If a creature is giving your opponent cards, a repeatable source of non-combat damage or has the potential to get big (Heroic, etc). It is good to consider offing them when you can. Sometimes, though, the correct answer is to go straight for their face with the burn spells. Go figure.

A big thing is timing. Your instant-speed burn should typically be done on the end of an opponent's turn when able, in response to your opponent targeting their own things.

But poo poo if you have a Satyr Firedancer out go all out. That dude owns.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Wait, so when all the counters are gone, it just doesn't take damage if it's got a +x/+x on it?

Yup! I love Phantom Centaur. :allears:

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg_daily_other_032542014_aprilphools

Wizards is doing a bunch of grabbag set phantom sealed events for April 1 with Odyssey block packs as prizes.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Kabanaw posted:

Even so, the designs of the returned all have sculpting that fit in with the Greek myth theme. Nothing about gold-white helix-blade or floaty-metal-hands make me think of Greek design.

They do, however, fit Alara fairly well.

Not that these things are for sure for a return set.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Entropic posted:

Isn't Alara one big plane now? I'm not up on my Lore, what was Nicky da B's endgame there?

It is. Bolas harvested the mana that was coalescing in the center of the shards reconverging. His end game was just recharging his batteries, basically. It worked. Last we saw Alara it was in an all-out global war as Grixis's undead hordes run rampant.

Entropic posted:

What's the state of Dominaria these days? I remember it was sort of Generic Fantasyland and then Urza hosed it up enough to cause an Ice Age, then I took about a 14 year break from magic and apparently it's a blasted hellscape now because it got smashed into other planes and something something Phyrexia and then time travel messed everything up?

It's still recovering from the temporal bullshit that happened on it. The hellscape is because of the repeated apocalypses that Dominaria had due to being the focalpoint of the storyline for like 15 years.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Entropic posted:

They put too much actual Shinto mythology in it, which anime-watching nerds were completely bafffled by.

I really enjoy world mythology and know a decent amount about Shintoism and Kamigawa was a big miss for me. They focused specifically on Shinto way too much to much. If you told me a set was going to be based on Japanese folklore, etc I have expectations. I expect tengu and other youkai and the stories about them. I expect things like the Dragon Palace and Kintaro and Susano-o. Kamigawa did not have this. Instead it had lawful kitsune samurai, snake people with six limbs and extinct Kappa.

Hell they did ninja in one of three sets and it wasn't even the first one. Expectations mean a hell of a lot and Kamigawa did not meet nearly any of them. Theros is absolutely the correct way to go about top-down worlds based on existing mythology.

PhyrexianLibrarian posted:

There's a rumour that Power Armor and any artwork that depicts it were made as a way to use up leftover art from the old Battletech CCG, which would explain a lot.

This is a rumor but it's untrue, aside from the art usually involving blatant Magic things (Phyrexians, Metathran, Kavu, etc) Urza's in particular has the Thran Emblem incorporated into the cockpit design. They're just a part of Urza's whole "I'm gonna build poo poo and it's gonna be a big awesome machine" personality. The dude built a gigantic robot dragon he piloted into Phyrexia during the Urza's Saga storyline.

Dude just liked to solve problems by building mecha.

Chorocojo fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 31, 2014

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

CountFosco posted:

When maro says that Kamigawa didn't meet players expectations, he meant more that it didn't have enough ninjas, godzilla, sushi and other things that the lowest common denominator mouth-breathing plebes associate with Japan. Tengu, youkai and the Dragon Palace, etc. are not the sort of thing you can expect to see in a magic set based around Japan.

I'm aware. I'm saying that as someone who IS invested in that poo poo. It even failed there.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

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CountFosco posted:

Fair enough. I just found it amusing that your solution to Kamigawa was to go far deeper into obscure lore when everything we've heard from WOTC says that that's what caused it to bomb in the first plase.

Again though, that's not my solution. Theros is absolutely the correct way to go about top-down based on an existing mythology. It delivers on expectations and even has things like the Hecatonchire and the Teumessian Fox for people like me. Raised by Wolves is fine even. Those wolves loved the poo poo out of that hydra.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
My favorite example of this is The Dark literally just has Frankenstein's Monster in it. No reason. They just thought it would be cool.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

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jassi007 posted:

Or maybe it won't be legendary because they also said only legendaries in Theros block are gods and god things?

Hythonia, Anthoussa, etc prove otherwise.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

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jassi007 posted:

maybe it was legendary enchantments are only god stuff? It was something about the reason why chromanticore couldn't be a legendary.

Legendary Enchantment Creature — Manticore is too long to fit on the type line. The reason God is a creature type and they aren't Avatars is God is the only word that would fit after Legendary Enchantment Creature.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
There is information on some of the gods that isn't online, you only find it in the Players' Guide you get with fat packs. Some of it is interesting:

quote:

Ephara is the patron god of the city-state of Meletis. She presides over all aspects of civilization, including city-building, learning, industry, architecture and philosophy. She believes in establishing stability without crushing imagination, and she recognizes that mortals can create wonders when they work together. Even in the trouble times that shake Theros, she stands firmly on the side of the humans.

According to legend, Ephara granted mortals the magic that allowed them to free themselves from tyranny. An archon called Agnomakhos had ruled the area with an iron fist for centuries, enforcing his will with an army of leonin. With the help of Ephara, the mortals overthrew the archon and drove out his forces, establishing the enlightened polis of Meletis in the wreckage of her empire.

Ephara is associated with white and blue mana, and her presence is believed to keep at bay the forces of the wild. Statues of her abound in Meletis, depicting her with a great urn from which pour enlightenment and prosperity. Whenever a new stone wall or marble edifice is raised, it almost always includes a representation of the god's face.


quote:

Phenax, the masked patron of lies and cheats, was imprisoned by Heliod in the Underworld. He chafed at his bonds and eventually discovered a way to escape. Phenax crossed back over the Rivers That Ring the World on the tattered cloak of Athreos, who ferries the dead to their ultimate rest. Because Phenax was hidden by illusion, the river guide could not detect him, and Erebos could not find him to drag him back.

Other restless shades watched his passing, but without divine powers of deception, they could escape only by surrendering their identities. They followed the "Path of Phenax" to become the Returned and haunt the world once more. They worship the god as their patron because he showed them the way.

Phenax is associated with blue and black mana, and he governs the realms of gambling, deception, betrayal, plots and secrets. He is worshipped by criminals and others who wish to subvert the rules. He is delighted by Xenagos's upending of the natural order and thoroughly approves of scapegoating Elspeth.

So there's your link between Phenax and the Returned both having gold masks. Phenax is kind of a complete gently caress. Related: He and Ashiok are currently doing things in the Dack Fayden the greatest thief in the multiverse comics.

quote:

The god of wrath and pain, Mogis takes the form of a ferocious minotaur. In his dominion over warfare, he delights in the dark side of battle, feasting on the utter destruction and abject fear of the defeated. Mogis is the twin brother of Iroas, god of victory, who commands the nobler aspects of war, and the two spar constantly.

Minotaurs are Mogis's most fervent worshippers. They embody the qualities he admires most, and he encourages them to ravage the countryside. Barbaric and cruel human warriors also honor Mogis, but he has turned away from such followers in the recent crisis. His single-mindedness has made him an unwitting pawn in Xenagos's plans.

Sadism, revenge, malice, domination . . . these are Mogis's spoils, and his worshippers are legion. Associated with black and red mana, he has no loftier goal than spreading destruction throughout the world. He wields a fearsome axe and seeks to keep its jagged edge drenched in blood.

quote:

Karametra is the god of the harvest, the hearth, and protection. She is the patron deity of Setessa, where a mystical grove of ancient trees enclose an immense temple to her. A serene, wise god, Karametra values community, stability, and the balance of nature. She speaks of Nylea, god of the hunt, as her sister; while the two often come into conflict, Karametra values wild animals as protectors of civilization.

Though she also governs the realms of fertility, motherhood, and agriculture, Karametra is not a pacifist god. Her signature item is a scythe, signifying both the harvest and the natural laws of life and death. She is often depicted with a sable, a weasel-like creature of great ferocity.

Karametra is associated with green and white mana. She governs the defense of home and hearth against outside threats, and she stands with her mortal worshippers against the tide of Nyxborn creatures.

quote:

The satyr Xenagos fully indulged himself in the revels of the Skola Valley before his Planeswalker spark ingnited. After traveling the Multiverse and learning the truth of the gods' nature, he returned to his home plane disillusioned but with a bold new plan: he would seize power on the Theros by becoming a god himself. In his arrogance, he sees this ascension as his right.

Harnessing his fearsome ability to whip creatures into a frenzy, Xenagos orchestrated a series of mystical rituals to begin his transformation to godhood. One last ritual, a Great Revel, would complete his apotheosis. With the defeat of Mogis's minotaurs, that moment had come: at the revel's height, Xenagos burst into Nyx. In the great Temple of Abandon, the empty throne grew and changed to reflect the new god's arrival.

As a full-fledged god, Xenagos is associated with red and green mana. His domain encompasses indulgence, mischief, destruction, and mockery. He intends to spread his influence across Theros until the whole plane is a never-ending rollick. The elder gods, meanwhile, fear not only the upstart's plans but also the threat his ascension represents to their exclusive status.

Chorocojo fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 2, 2014

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
I trust Kruphix even less than Phenax, to be honest. He knows something.

Zero_Grade posted:

Just more proof that U/B is the worst and Not To Be Trusted (ever).


Also Xenagos apparently represents double mischief.

Oops! Second one is supposed to be mockery.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
Fresh leeches.



Chainsawdomy posted:

Would one of our resident grecophiles like to weigh in on the pronunciation of 'Leucrocota' right now and save us all some trouble? You know, for when I'm being passed yet another of those things as the last card in a draft-pack.

Lou Crow Kota

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-M0Z8hwwqk

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Korak posted:

New masked blue mage?

It's one of the player avatars from the duels games. There are a lot of cool planeswalker concepts in there.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Sleep of Bronze posted:

On the one hand, the background information Argyle was given for Bloodbraid explains something of why he didn't go full Jundcore. On the other hand, he unironically calls a woman a vixen like this is a porno so

I was going to mention that she's Nayan, yeah. The issue with it is to have a bloodbraid she'd have to have been a tough badass who probably beat someone to death already. The Argyle piece feels off while the Domingo piece has a scrappy quality to it while still feeling very Naya-ish.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Sleep of Bronze posted:

We don't know because there was meant to be a novel about it and it never got released. The comic shows vague stuff about corruption, not being able to hear the forest properly, his summons going wrong, anger issues, and black veins on his skin.

Garruk's still on Innistrad after Liliana left. The curse had fully taken hold of him but Avacyn's Cursemute, the spell that turned the werewolves into wolfir also affected Garruk and snapped him out of his murderous fugue at the very least. He's still cursed and weakened, but he thinks the answer to removing the curse is on Innistrad. Last we saw, Odric had captured him.

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Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

Vomax posted:

Was his flip card in Innistrad meant to represent, like, the exact moment the curse took hold?

When Garruk and Liliana finally meet he's fully Veil-Cursed, yes. Avacyn's Cursemute brings him back to his senses.

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