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SaltPig posted:I know people at C90. Does not sound like they are having a good time. C'mon... What's not to love about 6 day work weeks!?
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Krime posted:C'mon... What's not to love about 6 day work weeks!? And, from what I hear, 2+ hours on position every time and sick leave letters for all.
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I don't know if it is appropriate to post here about it but I'm an ATCALS guy (or metnav or raws or techops or. . . whatever) who fixes all the bullshit that the the tower uses to do their job (with the exception of radar & lighting systems) as well as landing systems for the pilots and all that. I'd love to answer any questions if anyone has some for the maintenance guy. A question I have for the thread is, does anyone here have towers with solar-powered obstruction lights? We're looking at switching over to them for the tower cab due to a variety of circumstances, and the tower chief wants to know more about them ahead of time from another base or airport that already have them.
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aunt jenkins posted:Not an ATC but nobody else has answered and I know the answer so. It's required when parallel departures are in use. From the .65, specifically 5-8-2: This makes sense in an FAA sort of way. Parallel traffic, better remind them to turn! Aimed at the side of a mountain, no need to remind them because we already cleared them for it once.
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Well the first few times you witness a crossover event with simultaneous parallel departures, you begin to understand the prudence of having a reminder. There's really no time to correct it if someone turns the wrong way.
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Oct 2, 2021 18:05
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So... who's filing religious exemptions?
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TangoFox posted:So... who's filing religious exemptions? The people that have been getting 10 free days off at least once a month for a year and a half.
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fknlo posted:The people that have been getting 10 free days off at least once a month for a year and a half. Wait... There's places still on 5 and 10s ?
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Krime posted:Wait... There's places still on 5 and 10s ? Doubtful but I'm referring to people that aren't vaccinated getting 10 days of EA every time they get "exposed" to someone with COVID.
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ZDV has officially become the bad guy with the medevac thing. Declaring emergencies for pilots that explicitly state that they don't want or need it to give them direct kind of poo poo. We've gone completely off the rails.
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poo poo, that's further than the people who go direct in our facility take it. There's one that says he'll move 60 planes out of the way for a medevac and thinks he's God's gift to ATC. Too bad he doesn't understand S46 will just bitch at us for sending a plane straight into the departure stream and they still have to sequence them, more often than not adding a delay. When you call a sector and he's working it, his response is "God, what?! Approved!" before you even say anything. its all nice on rice fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 06:09
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The supervisor gambit has paid off! I actually like it and I got picked up on an ERR back to ZKC. It's not officially official but it looks like it should be September.
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Dec 13, 2021 04:11
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fknlo posted:The supervisor gambit has paid off! Congrats!
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Krime posted:Congrats! Thank you. It's surprisingly bittersweet for me considering I've been trying to get back for 3 years now. I really like the supervisor environment here and I'm 95% sure it's gonna be quite a bit shittier there. But I have family stuff so it's not even a question for me.
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Hey ATC folks, was there a ground stop on the west coast this afternoon for about 7 minutes for unknown reasons? There's a lot of chatter about something going down but not a lot of clarity.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Hey ATC folks, was there a ground stop on the west coast this afternoon for about 7 minutes for unknown reasons? There's a lot of chatter about something going down but not a lot of clarity. Most plausible rumor I've heard was it was the same time Best Korea was testing a ballistic missile.
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The new vectoring VFR elms has loving Animojis in it. They mention ATC memes. I cannot take this poo poo.
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Chinese 737 crash... Mechanical or intentional? Thoughts?
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it’s too early to say anything definitive. wait for facts to come out.
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Looks like I’ll be transferring to C90 sometime in august 
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Iucounu posted:Looks like I’ll be transferring to C90 sometime in august Congrats! I assume you want to go there? Also lol @ terminal having some modicum of job portability while working at a Z is essentially a permanent non-negotiable assignment.
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MrYenko posted:Congrats! I assume you want to go there? There is a bit of movement for terminal. We had two guys scooped up in this last NCEPT. The C90 bid is a year long bid with move money though, so it’s not in the same pile
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Holy poo poo boys and girls stay the gently caress off social media. Especially if you're a dumbass swivelhead who thinks the NAS shuts down when you go home.
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MrYenko posted:Holy poo poo boys and girls stay the gently caress off social media. Especially if you're a dumbass swivelhead who thinks the NAS shuts down when you go home. I mean, I'd be more concerned with the whole "people working an overnight shift that aren't normally awake overnight and also work the worst possible schedule for fatigue mitigation to top it off" angle if I was flying a redeye, but that's just me.
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fknlo posted:I mean, I'd be more concerned with the whole "people working an overnight shift that aren't normally awake overnight and also work the worst possible schedule for fatigue mitigation to top it off" angle if I was flying a redeye, but that's just me.  In other news, ZMA is now literally full of poo poo, in addition to being figuratively full of poo poo as normal. ZMA FACRep posted:
UPDATE ZMA FACRep posted:
Luckily my OT tomorrow isn’t until 1300. I hope no one needs to take a leak on the mid.
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Did you get to poo poo in a trailer?
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fknlo posted:Did you get to poo poo in a trailer? Only the finest shittertrailers for the NAS. They were legitimately nicer than the control room mens room, even if that’s not a particularly high bar. Everyone knows that the pro move is to poo poo in the tech ops bathrooms downstairs though.
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Hearing that someone threatened to have deals if they were "forced" to recertify is a new one for me. It doesn't shock me with this person but god drat.
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fknlo posted:Hearing that someone threatened to have deals if they were "forced" to recertify is a new one for me. It doesn't shock me with this person but god drat. ZMA presently has a CPCIT that got here just before COVID, saw the level of traffic we work and said "NOPE" and has been scamming his way out of training for more than two years now. He was recently caught LIVING FULL-TIME IN THE ANNEX AND SHOWERING IN THE TECH-OPS SHOWERS DOWNSTAIRS and collecting level 12 CPC save-pay while his transfer paperwork gathers dust on some desk somewhere. Motherfucker don't even step to me with dysfunctional facility stories. 
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MrYenko posted:ZMA presently has a CPCIT that got here just before COVID, saw the level of traffic we work and said "NOPE" and has been scamming his way out of training for more than two years now. He was recently caught LIVING FULL-TIME IN THE ANNEX AND SHOWERING IN THE TECH-OPS SHOWERS DOWNSTAIRS and collecting level 12 CPC save-pay while his transfer paperwork gathers dust on some desk somewhere. That's really good. The agency has to have some sort of system in place to weed out most of the "I will literally never get fired for anything I do" examples because otherwise the FAA would be full of them and congress would have to act to solve the dysfunction. I wish I could go into any sort of detail but can't because of my position. In absolutely completely unrelated news, I'm finally going to get the liability insurance that supervisors can get.
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Is there some kind of audio warning system in towers that goes off if an airplane crosses into the departure path of a different runway? A few days ago at SEA, I saw an airplane depart 16C, and make an immediate left turn across the departure path for 16L, which they weren't supposed to do. While the tower controller was giving them an "immediate" turn back to runway heading, it sounded like there was something going "WARNING, WARNING" in the background, which I assumed had to be related.
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MrYenko posted:ZMA presently has a CPCIT that got here just before COVID, saw the level of traffic we work and said "NOPE" and has been scamming his way out of training for more than two years now. He was recently caught LIVING FULL-TIME IN THE ANNEX AND SHOWERING IN THE TECH-OPS SHOWERS DOWNSTAIRS and collecting level 12 CPC save-pay while his transfer paperwork gathers dust on some desk somewhere. lol this sounds a lot like the drug addict CPC at ZJX who LIVED at the facility for MONTHS before the right person found out (it was an open secret, people didn't care as long as he made his shift on time and was sober). ZJX has, and had, some real special situations. And honestly? This isn't close to the most absurd.
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Tommy 2.0 posted:lol this sounds a lot like the drug addict CPC at ZJX who LIVED at the facility for MONTHS before the right person found out (it was an open secret, people didn't care as long as he made his shift on time and was sober). ZJX has, and had, some real special situations. And honestly? This isn't close to the most absurd. Go on ... 
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Didn’t ZJX have a guy get DQed and briefly become an article 45 valet?
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Krime posted:Go on ... There are only 2 out of 6 areas at ZJX that have controllers. The other areas have glorified phraseology specialists. The D-Side trainees in those two areas get more respect than the CPCs in the other four areas. One area does almost half the entire facility's numbers. People that transfer in to the facility wash out of the north area super fast, or straight up refuse to train in it. So you have a really weird storm of people overworked/stressed and others that are getting 6 figure welfare. The north area only gets to homegrow new controllers cause CPCs nope the gently caress out of there. And training time for the area is over three years. Compare that to the other four who max out at two (and that includes D and R school). The gulf area's training for a new controller is 1-1.5 for a new controller. So, a North and Gulf area trainee get paid completely different for three years while one is actually stressed. So the facility has a really weird mix of poo poo. It wasn't unusual for north area CPCs to apply for sup positions just to get a break (cause they weren't ever allowed to transfer areas). And the entire facility has an extremely high "skater" number due to the fact the other areas just don't need their manning. So people get slapped in to office jobs/schedules super quick in those areas. The NATCA reps in the skate areas fight tooth and nail to keep their CPCs on the floor if they get in trouble cause they want to keep their breaks. I'm not kidding when I say what I'm about to say. Four of the areas at ZJX average more than four hours on break a day. One of them at least five. That's an average. It wasn't uncommon to BS with someone from the Gulf area and them say they had only been on position 30 minutes when they are almost done with their shift. And these guy aren't scheduled for additional duties. So, drug addicts, people with DUIs and pending investigations, and people literally showing up to work drunk keep their status there. Yenko: I'm not sure the exact details, but yeah. Tommy 2.0 fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Aug 20, 2022 |
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It’s my last day at ZDV  I’ve genuinely not minded it here as a supervisor but I’m glad to finally be getting home. I definitely took the correct path since we haven’t released a controller in like 3 years. Everyone is applying to sup jobs now. I’m also getting out at a good time because staffing on the supervisor end has suddenly gotten lovely on top of a few other things.
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fknlo posted:It’s my last day at ZDV Headed to ZKC right?
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Krime posted:Headed to ZKC right? Yup! I’m excited to see what horrors await.
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fknlo posted:Yup! I’m excited to see what horrors await. Hey... Better make good with your new OM headed that way too.
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At airports with closely spaced parallel runways, is there some kind of audible alarm that sounds if a departing airplane wanders into the departure path for another runway? A few weeks ago at SEA, I heard a Southwest flight accidentally turn across the departure paths for the other runways (there were no departures off them, so there wasn't a collision risk), and while the tower controller was telling Southwest to turn the correct direction, it sounded like some kind of alarm was going off in the background that I don't recall ever hearing there.
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