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Mr. Squishy posted:I like Keats, Yeats, and the Beats. Well, nobody's perfect.
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I like Charles Bukowski. There is some good stuff by him. What matters most is not the old-style typewriter font used in an image but the way you click "like" on Facebook.
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"Aiyyo what's up, keep it real son, count this money, you know what I'm saying? Life's a bitch and then you die, that's why we get high, because you never know when you're gonna go." -Charles Bukowski reading from his classic work, Illmatic, 1994
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Mar 12, 2015 17:54
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Realtalk: my favorite Bukowski poem Alone With Everybody the flesh covers the bone and they put a mind in there and sometimes a soul, and the women break vases against the walls and the men drink too much and nobody finds the one but keep looking crawling in and out of beds. flesh covers the bone and the flesh searches for more than flesh. there's no chance at all: we are all trapped by a singular fate. nobody ever finds the one. the city dumps fill the junkyards fill the madhouses fill the hospitals fill the graveyards fill nothing else fills.
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Mar 12, 2015 17:58
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Rabbit Hill posted:Realtalk: my favorite Bukowski poem Well, that's just the way it is... Sometimes when everything seems at Its worst When all conspires And gnawls And the hours, days, weeks Years Seem wasted – Stretch there upon my bed In the dark Looking up at the ceiling I get what many will consider an Obnoxious thought: It’s still nice to be Bukowski.
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Mar 12, 2015 18:10
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Declan MacManus posted:Something neat I saw in a translation of Nahuatl poetry was that they included a glossary of Nahuatl terms with a few different definitions for each so that the reader was empowered to make their own translation.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:36
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Does anyone know anywhere I can find a couple of Pedro Salinas' poems (preferably love poems) in English? It's not particularly for anything serious, so I'm not asking for some grand academic resource. Nor wanting to start a debate about how if I'm not reading it in Spanish I'm a poopyhead etc etc
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Mar 13, 2015 17:50
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jimcunningham posted:
Ai will blow your mind.
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Mar 16, 2015 23:18
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I recently worked my way through Heaney's Openend Ground. It was great, and Heaney has probably the most distinct and consistent 'voice' I've seen poetry. Every word is lethally accurate and precise yet completely natural. I'm also finishing a copy of Auden's selected poems, which haven't been very satisfying - they tend to have complicated or contradictory imagery that makes them confusing for the most part (I really got it because of "Shield of Achilles"). Any advice on getting into them?
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Mar 18, 2015 07:13
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I'll confess, I don't like Auden. And I'll confess further: it was reading "The Platonic Blow," the anonymous bad gay erotica written in narrative verse widely attributed to Auden, that was the final nail in the "Auden is no good" coffin for me. So I too would be interested in someone pro-Auden explaining why he's so well-regarded. One of my favorite poets, W.S. Merwin, had Auden as a mentor and greatly respected him, so I'm sure the problem is with me and not him.
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Mar 18, 2015 20:04
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Not a philosophical heavyweight, but my favorite poet is Ogden Nash. Short, straightforward, and fun. Two of his: Reflexions on Ice-Breaking Candy is dandy But liquor is quicker Lines Indited with all the Depravity of Poverty One way to be very happy is to be very rich For then you can buy orchids by the quire and bacon by the flitch. And yet at the same time People don’t mind if you only tip them a dime, Because it’s very funny But somehow if you’re rich enough you can get away with spending water like money While if you’re not rich you can spend in one evening your salary for the year And everybody will just stand around and jeer. If you are rich you don’t have to think twice about buying a judge or a horse, Or a lower instead of an upper, or a new suit, or a divorce, And you never have to say When, And you can sleep every morning until nine or ten, All of which Explains why I should like very, very much to be very, very rich.
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Mar 18, 2015 22:01
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My name's Samuel Coleridge and I'm here to rime / Killing an albatross means bad times!
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Mar 20, 2015 13:23
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*turns hat backwards* drat, teach! Poetry is dope! You've inspired me to go to college, just like Odysseus did!
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Mar 20, 2015 13:28
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[Fade out. Fade in on snowglobe, being held by dual English/Education major at Boise State University] "One day... I will live up to your legacy, Hilary Swank."
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Mar 20, 2015 13:32
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Lolboise. Anyway, motherfucking Merwin. Cannot believe that I have not read him before. The openness of his form and the utter control of his pacing are wonderful. Would provide link but phone posting.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:45
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My favorite Merwin period is serendipitously covered in the collection, The Second Four Books of Poems: 1960-1972. Everything before that was formal, everything after that has been....uh.....not as good.  Seriously though, for my tastes, it was either too abstract or too direct. IMO he was at his peak in the 1960s. Even his more "word salad" poems -- a style I usually find insufferable -- really work for me.Here's an example. God, I love this poem. quote:When You Go Away Here's another one of my favorites (you can find more of his work online here) 
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Mar 25, 2015 20:56
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FactsAreUseless posted:*turns hat backwards* drat, teach! Poetry is dope! You've inspired me to go to college, just like Odysseus did! Haha
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Mar 29, 2015 14:05
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A human heart posted:That sounds cool, what's the collection called? Can't remember, it had a pretty generic name. I think it's on Project Gutenberg though.
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Apr 2, 2015 03:13
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I bought Lyrical Ballads 1798 + 1802 and the poems are cool and good, but I especially like the essay bits where Wordsworth talks about why he feels all the contemporary poetry that isn't him and COleridge is a big steaming turd that is just copying old things that have become poetical and calling it poetry, rather than writing things that are actually good and normal people can relate to. He gets annoyed at a poem that describes a bell as "church-going".
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Apr 30, 2015 23:49
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CestMoi posted:I bought Lyrical Ballads 1798 + 1802 and the poems are cool and good, but I especially like the essay bits where Wordsworth talks about why he feels all the contemporary poetry that isn't him and COleridge is a big steaming turd that is just copying old things that have become poetical and calling it poetry, rather than writing things that are actually good and normal people can relate to. He gets annoyed at a poem that describes a bell as "church-going". I thought that essay was pretty BS. Wordsworth's poems violate his own standards constantly, and Wordsworth was being willfully obtuse about the "church-going bell": https://books.google.com/books?id=Q...bell%22&f=false
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May 1, 2015 02:43
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The preface is pretty hilarious. "I like poor people because they're too dumb to lie to me." Wordsworth is trash. If you really really need a dose of maudlin folsky preachyness, go read Shamus Heany.
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May 1, 2015 02:50
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Idk I think poetry as a whole is often seen as inaccessible, even now; so it's interesting to have a guy offer condescending over inaccessible. Alsothe poems are really nicely written so that's good.
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May 1, 2015 10:41
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So I am completely new to poetry and I picked up Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson which is self described as "A Novel in Verse". Anyway it is more modern poetry I guess and so doesn't really rhyme or have an obvious rhythm, but it does have line breaks and sometimes in weird places like in the middle of a sentence/thought. So I guess my question is, should I just be reading it in my head just regular, or should I be putting mental beats in where the line breaks are. Like here is a random example I turned to: quote:They continued to sit. They were parked way out on the highway. So there is sentence breaks but also the line break which seems even more pronounced. It is very lovely writing so far I just want to know how I should approach it so I am getting the most out of like the presentation and arrangement I guess. Sorry if this is a totally dumb question y'all.
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May 5, 2015 22:46
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Rabbit Hill posted:I'll confess, I don't like Auden. And I'll confess further: it was reading "The Platonic Blow," the anonymous bad gay erotica written in narrative verse widely attributed to Auden, that was the final nail in the "Auden is no good" coffin for me. So I too would be interested in someone pro-Auden explaining why he's so well-regarded. One of Auden's biggest strengths, in my opinion, is his ability to evoke "epic themes" and all their associated emotions without succumbing to bombast or dishonesty. "Spain" is a particularly good example of this-- it's a poem about martial heroism, certainly, but it looks war in the face and it tells no pretty lies. Also, while the Platonic Blow may not be *sexy*, exactly, I do think it's pretty hilarious. So maybe you might like it more if you approach it as quasi-parody?
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May 6, 2015 00:59
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A Difficult Horse by Bill Herbert The horse is staring out to sea from a sloping field not far out of Aberdeen. I watch it from the train to Dundee. It is stationary, staring for the minute I have it in view. It is a small brown horse, possibly even a pony. The sea is calm. The horse looks like an old fisherman, possibly even an old fish. It’s difficult to imagine it ever moving. It’s difficult to know what it is thinking. It is a difficult horse.
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May 9, 2015 13:00
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I'm working on publishing a murder-mystery that I wrote a couple of years ago, and poetry is an important plot element- it's horror-fantasy, and some characters practice a science where they implant language patterns into peoples' memory and use it to control their minds and harm them. I've got a couple I can share, but they're not edited so it's still pretty rough; WARNING; SPOILERS bonus points if you can find the hidden messages! 
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Guy A. Person posted:So I am completely new to poetry and I picked up Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson which is self described as "A Novel in Verse". Anyway it is more modern poetry I guess and so doesn't really rhyme or have an obvious rhythm, but it does have line breaks and sometimes in weird places like in the middle of a sentence/thought. I am really new to poetry also and I struggle to appreciate it in the same way I think other people do; I can't get the traditional novel way of thinking out of my head. That said, I've been told that punctuation and sentence structure is important, it is there for a reason and should help guide your reading. Try reading it out loud as well. I'm reading Edith Sitwell currently and enjoying her. Here's a good one: quote:Four In The Morning Fellwenner fucked around with this message at 03:32 on May 21, 2015 |
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May 21, 2015 03:03
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I wanted to post this in the Walt Whitman thread, but it turns out that has been archived after all 5 posts in it so I'm going to post this here: I accidentally watched Steve ROggenbuck (who is bad) read a bunch of lines of Walt WHitman (Who is good) and now I'm reading loads of Walt Whitman, which is good. Here's To A Common Prostitute, which isn't as good as Song of Myself, but is much shorter: Be composed - be at ease with me - I am Walt Whitman, liberal and lusty as Nature, Not till the sun excludes you do I exclude you, Not till the waters refuse to glisten for you and the leaves to rustle for you, do my words refuse to glisten and rustle for you. My girl I appoint with you an appointment, I charge you that you make preparation to be worthy to meet me, And I charge you to be patient and perfect till I come. Till then I salute you with a significant look that you do not forget me.
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I bought and read an issue of the Columbia poetry review and it was pretty cool. There were three poems that dealt with barney and betty hill that I really liked, maybe I will post them later. Anyone know of some good poetry annuals/whatever?
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I've always loved Anna Akhmatova's poetry. The Requiem collection is a really amazing piece written, if I remember right, when her son was in prison under Stalin. Vladimir Mayakovsky is another Russian whose writing strikes something in me. To His Beloved Self, the Author Dedicates These Lines and Past One O’Clock, which he used in part in his suicide note, are two of the ones that have stuck with me most. He had a really interesting life as part of the Futurist movement and then under the Soviets.
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The first book of poetry I was ever curious enough to buy was 1948 by Andy Croft, its a book length detective plot in Onegin stanza's. Its set in an alternate history 1948 in a Britain ruled by a coaltion of Labour and the Communist Party. Its a reworking of Nineteen Eighty Four, most of the characters are from the book and the protagonist is Winston Smith though this time as a police officer. Apart from Orwell another inspiration is Ealing comedy, so a bit Noir and a bit farcical. I don't think there's much in the book for readers whom aren't familiar with either really, it probably just be a story with a weird rhyming scheme. Worth checking out though if your familiar with both though.
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Jul 12, 2015 11:21
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JOhn Ashberry Mother Fuckers!!!!!!
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I googled to see if i could find english translations of a poet i rwally like, so i could share it. I found this http://jacket2.org/commentary/rodrigo-lira Interview with the translator and a translated poen at the end
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I've been reading an English translation of a collection of poems by Xu Lizhi a former FoxConn worker whom committed suicide last year. Its very bleak for example “On My Deathbed” 我想再看一眼大海，目睹我半生的泪水有多汪洋 I want to take another look at the ocean, behold the vastness of tears from half a lifetime 我想再爬一爬高高的山头，试着把丢失的灵魂喊回来 I want to climb another mountain, try to call back the soul that I’ve lost 我还想摸一摸天空，碰一碰那抹轻轻的蓝 I want to touch the sky, feel that blueness so light 可是这些我都办不到了，我就要离开这个世界了 But I can’t do any of this, so I’m leaving this world 所有听说过我的人们啊 Everyone who’s heard of me 不必为我的离开感到惊讶 Shouldn’t be surprised at my leaving 更不必叹息，或者悲伤 Even less should you sigh or grieve 我来时很好，去时，也很好 I was fine when I came, and fine when I left. -- Xu Lizhi, 30 September 2014 Really brings home the horror of workplace conditions in a depressing large number of factories.
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CestMoi posted:I wanted to post this in the Walt Whitman thread, but it turns out that has been archived after all 5 posts in it so I'm going to post this here: I accidentally watched Steve ROggenbuck (who is bad) What don't you like about Roggenbuck? Should we mention rad intro books for the OP? Making Your Own Days by Kenneth Koch is the best. quote:Much of the difficulty of reading poetry comes from unfamiliarity, from not being able to take the suggestions the poem gives as to how to read it. It’s possible, too, to be misdirected by teachers and critics, so that poems are read in an unprofitable way. Common mistaken ideas about how to read poetry include the Hidden Meaning assumption, which directs one to more or less ignore the surface of the poem in a quest for some elusive and momentous significance that the poet has buried amid the words and music. This idea probably comes from the fact that, being moved by a poem, one assumes an important religious, philosophical, or historical cause for being moved and tries to find it hidden someplace in the poem; whereas in fact a few words rightly placed can be moving if they catch a moment of life — almost any moment; if, amidst all the blather and babble of imprecise, uncertain language in which we live, there is something better, some undeniable little beautiful bit of light. This is given to us, of course, by the music and the words, not something that they conceal. Important, and at first unseeable, meanings may be in poems as they may be in other experiences, but there is no way to find them except by having the experiences. It's not the nature of poems to be clues, or collections of clues, so to read them as if they were is not to properly experience them, thus to be lost. Many people talking about poetry are lost, and even more people have given up reading poetry because they knew they were lost and didn’t like it. A poem may turn out to be a deep and complex experience, but the experience begins by responding to the language of poetry in front of you, not by detective work that puts that response aside.
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I don't usually go in for poetry but Jim Carrol's stuff is quite excellent.quote:The Tenth Try e: also, Pablo Neruda
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iccyelf posted:What don't you like about Roggenbuck? I find his badness inhibits my enjoyment of him.
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For contemporary poet recommendations, BBC Scotland just selected their first Poet In Residence Rachel McCrum. She's one of my favourite poets from the Edinburgh spoken word scene. Also she has a voice that's a mixture of honey and melted butter to listen to. Radio Orkney 1977 (click for the audio version) The sea, trailing whiteghost hair, shivers home in waves, to a population low voiced, modest but not set in stone. A surge of Old Scotia from south and west that foams and waves incomers in, those seeking meaning not yet quite begun. The join of Balfour's whitewashed roof braves the ossuary absent of bones, the fingers of the setting sun. A groundswell sweet and low as local airwaves flies like the crow between dry walls, standing stones. A surge along the lengths of waves, Maxwell's sums still standing strong. The island living new tradition. Soundwaves longer than light and nothing's set in stone. No tick needed, nothin missing here. Lambs shiver and brave standing tall. The rise and fall of speech. Nothing's set in stone.
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Pandering chicken-scratches if you ask me, and I love Scotland.
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CestMoi posted:I find his badness inhibits my enjoyment of him. Okay, let me try again. What makes him so bad?
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