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Chichevache posted:I'm no psychiatrist, but I thought that it was usually, but not always, about power. Meaning that sometimes it can be just about the sex. It's rarely just one or the other. Sex is involved in that sexual assaults usually involve the gender the attacker prefers, and usually involve the age range the attacker prefers. Power is involved in that these people actively prefer to commit assaults rather than finding a willing partner.
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i am a psychiatrist by trade and it turns out that not only is chichevache correct, but florida gators av guy is too and only 0.24% of rapes occuer due to "needing to nut". thanks for reading
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Feb 16, 2014 03:48
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Darren Sharper has issues.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:21
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Hardfl1p posted:i am a psychiatrist by trade and it turns out that not only is chichevache correct, but florida gators av guy is too and only 0.24% of rapes occuer due to "needing to nut". thanks for reading Is that the clinical term?
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Feb 16, 2014 17:08
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swickles posted:Apparently your team winning a Super Bowl magically turns you into a good poster. Uhh. Yeah sure.
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I'll admit I've never done any real thinking about the thought processes of rapists. But that all makes sense.
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GAY KARATE MAN posted:I'll admit I've never done any real thinking about the thought processes of rapists. This seems like it's for the best.
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Feb 16, 2014 22:01
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im so sick of human beings
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Skeesix posted:This seems like it's for the best. Yeah that's how I feel about it 
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It's so disturbing. You try to figure it out, but there's not really a way to understand it I don't think. Unless you're broken like he is, it's just not going to make sense. For sure there's not a big separation between any other part of life and power, the difference is in what kind of power it is. I think for a normal person, er, assuming I have any idea what that might be, heh, it's a very powerful thing to have sex with a willing partner. Someone said it's the ultimate affirmation right? That's a feeling of power, but the power is in the willingness of the other person. But it seems like for this guy, assuming that he did these things, he wanted power to control them, to take from them something that they might have even given willingly. Willing wasn't enough, he wanted to TAKE, which is actually violent really I think. It's really hosed up. I can understand so many crimes. I can understand killing someone because you're angry, or because you're paranoid, or because their continued existence is intolerable to you. That's just straight up violent and I can completely understand it almost every time. This kind of deviant violence, where some normal seeming drive or impulse is completely perverted and turned into something horrible and ugly, I just can't get a handle on. Then it's even more unbelievable because the guy is ON TELEVISION. I mean, you're not creeping off into the night, like appearing in a lovely sketch, they're just like 'yeah it was Darren Sharper'. So not only are you completely unhinged, you're also incredibly loving dumb. Makes you think there must actually be a lot more of them. You don't just one day after retirement decide to start drugging and raping women. Unless you have....a worsening brain injury or something.
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Larch posted:It's so disturbing. You try to figure it out, but there's not really a way to understand it I don't think. Unless you're broken like he is, it's just not going to make sense. For sure there's not a big separation between any other part of life and power, the difference is in what kind of power it is. I think for a normal person, er, assuming I have any idea what that might be, heh, it's a very powerful thing to have sex with a willing partner. Someone said it's the ultimate affirmation right? That's a feeling of power, but the power is in the willingness of the other person. Are you really trying to draw a connection between CTE and becoming a rapist?
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Larch posted:It's so disturbing. You try to figure it out, but there's not really a way to understand it I don't think. Unless you're broken like he is, it's just not going to make sense. For sure there's not a big separation between any other part of life and power, the difference is in what kind of power it is. I think for a normal person, er, assuming I have any idea what that might be, heh, it's a very powerful thing to have sex with a willing partner. Someone said it's the ultimate affirmation right? That's a feeling of power, but the power is in the willingness of the other person. where do you get your weed
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There's two things I want when I get baked to poo poo: all you can eat sushi, and a reasonable amount of rape
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But I think he probably was just a psycho most of his life and football gave him a good release, now in the silence and twilight of the retirement of his career he has the time to get bombarded, twisted and eventually ruined by his violent thoughts toward women
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Feb 17, 2014 01:51
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Chichevache posted:Are you really trying to draw a connection between CTE and becoming a rapist? CTE is unambiguously linked with disinhibition with regard to aggression and violence. Now CTE doesn't make anyone do anything, and there's no indication that I know of that Sharper has it in the first place, but the bare possibility of some connection can't be dismissed out of hand.
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Captain von Trapp posted:CTE is unambiguously linked with disinhibition with regard to aggression and violence. Now CTE doesn't make anyone do anything, and there's no indication that I know of that Sharper has it in the first place, but the bare possibility of some connection can't be dismissed out of hand. Sure we can, but probably shouldn't because we are a bunch of losers on the interenet, speculate on whether or not CTE may have somehow contributed to him raping women. But this quote:Makes you think there must actually be a lot more of them. You don't just one day after retirement decide to start drugging and raping women. Unless you have....a worsening brain injury or something. seems to imply that Larch thinks the options are that Sharper has raped women before and just wasn't caught, or that the brain injury caused it. The latter seems pretty ridiculous to me, especially considering the former is almost positively true.
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Captain von Trapp posted:CTE is unambiguously linked with disinhibition with regard to aggression and violence. Now CTE doesn't make anyone do anything, and there's no indication that I know of that Sharper has it in the first place, but the bare possibility of some connection can't be dismissed out of hand. Unless Sharper does the needful within the short-term without damaging his head, the connection between his behavior and his brain is only fruitful for the worst sort of sensationalism.
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That's true. Not a lot of point in speculating about it, since there's not much chance of getting actual data any time soon. In any case most people who do have CTE somehow manage not to commit violent felonies.
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Captain von Trapp posted:CTE is unambiguously linked with disinhibition with regard to aggression and violence. Now CTE doesn't make anyone do anything, and there's no indication that I know of that Sharper has it in the first place, but the bare possibility of some connection can't be dismissed out of hand. Disinhibition means doing and saying random poo poo that your internal filter would otherwise suppress. If the desire and execution to rape someone was a sign of CTE, this would be the first time it was reported and would completely change the thought process and research on the disease. In other words, Darren Sharper is a rapist who may have CTE, but there is no way CTE contributed to his desire to rape women. In fact, he probably has always been involved in this type of behavior and only now just got caught. At least statistically that is the most likely outcome. Not every weird or deplorable thing is associated with CTE people. Even in NFL ranks, CTE is more rare than we likely think it is.
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Rape: A classic fencing response
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I was talking with a friend regarding this story. We got onto the topic of reporting rape and my friend was trying to tell me that he thinks ~20% of rapes are faked. Also, it's the victim's fault for not reporting rape as soon as it occurs (or soon after) 
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That's some calculated poo poo right there. Some real methodical bad guy stuff. He'd have to know how to dose the morphine right without the victims going into respiratory arrest...and then the Ambien basically takes away the memory of it. Real twisted poo poo. I hope he never sees the light of day again.
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swickles posted:Disinhibition means doing and saying random poo poo that your internal filter would otherwise suppress. If the desire and execution to rape someone was a sign of CTE, this would be the first time it was reported and would completely change the thought process and research on the disease. Thank you for being an actual authority on this matter so that we can do away with the sophomoric pseudo-philosophy.
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Kalit posted:I was talking with a friend regarding this story. We got onto the topic of reporting rape and my friend was trying to tell me that he thinks ~20% of rapes are faked. Also, it's the victim's fault for not reporting rape as soon as it occurs (or soon after) I de-friended Darren Sharper as soon as this story hit, I just assumed everyone else did the same.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:That's some calculated poo poo right there. Some real methodical bad guy stuff. He'd have to know how to dose the morphine right without the victims going into respiratory arrest...and then the Ambien basically takes away the memory of it. The most carefulest measurin safety in da league
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Shadow225 posted:Yeah is morphine a normal date rape drug? Where do you even get morphine? I don't know about morphine's use in a case like this but as a football player with loads of typical injuries and pain I wouldn't be all that surprised if he simply has a pharmaceutical connection somewhere. I know you can get at least some basic forms of it with a prescription.
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Shadow225 posted:Yeah is morphine a normal date rape drug? Where do you even get morphine? Sean Payton probably hooked him up.
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Wow two pages in and I'm already finally knowing exactly what makes a rapist tick thank god Hardfl1p is killing it though
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Wow two pages in and I'm already finally knowing exactly what makes a rapist tick thank god Violent Impulses? Have you played any football lately?
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Chichevache posted:Thank you for being an actual authority on this matter so that we can do away with the sophomoric pseudo-philosophy. swickles is an authority on CTE? swickles posted:In other words, Darren Sharper is a rapist who may have CTE, but there is no way CTE contributed to his desire to rape women. quote:At least statistically that is the most likely outcome. quote:Even in NFL ranks, CTE is more rare than we likely think it is.
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swickles is an authority on anything medical. If I get something stuck up my butt I am sending him a PM.
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Welcome back Larch 
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Rap posted:swickles is an authority on CTE? Not CTE in particular, in fact there are only a handful of authorities on it since its such a new thing. I do however consider myself an authority on head trauma based on my two years as a senior research associate in a major trauma center and the 24 publications on the subject. quote:Nobody said this that I can see. Larch (although shame on me for giving him credibility) and a few others have been implying exactly as much in this thread. quote:What stats are those, ex-athletes with CTE and rape confessions? By statistically I meant its far more likely that Sharper is just a plain old run of the mill rapist than a rapist that was created by head trauma, CTE or otherwise. quote:What's your source for this claim too I have no source for this, because such a source does not exist. We do not know the rate of CTE in NFL players, nor do we have any reliable detection methods for it other than posthumous methods. However, almost anytime an NFL player or even ex-NFL player is involved in a crime, some type of violence, the media and even some TFF posters immediately jump to CTE as the cause of said events. Hell, the mods had to squash CTE talk after the Belcher incident because people were teeing off on it just like they did with "fencing response". Its going to be years until we are able to confirm our current suspicions about CTE, its pathophysiology, course, and treatment.
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swickles posted:Not CTE in particular, in fact there are only a handful of authorities on it since its such a new thing. I do however consider myself an authority on head trauma based on my two years as a senior research associate in a major trauma center and the 24 publications on the subject.  Holy poo poo if that's not a verbal uppercut I don't know what is
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An uppercut Ray Rice would be proud of
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swickles posted:Not CTE in particular, in fact there are only a handful of authorities on it since its such a new thing. I do however consider myself an authority on head trauma based on my two years as a senior research associate in a major trauma center and the 24 publications on the subject. AAA DOLFAN posted:
yep guess I got pretty owned... drat quote:Larch (although shame on me for giving him credibility) and a few others have been implying exactly as much in this thread. quote:I have no source for this, because such a source does not exist. We do not know the rate of CTE in NFL players, nor do we have any reliable detection methods for it other than posthumous methods. OK, and what have those methods shown us? What's that percentage of brains studied that have shown CTE?
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