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Glory of Arioch posted:Quite a bit. Dominixes are in vogue now, but impending nerfs will drive it out of favor in lieu of Megathrons and Apocalypses. We own a lot more space now, and we also have sueprcap superiority. Seriously? Amarr? I'm going to have to train LASERS? Please tell me logi's are still a thing so I can at least be useful in fleets while training deadly rainbow beams! Also, vyst, drat you're fast! Adding me to the right user groups while my eve client was still validating itself.
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I joined Goonswarm in 2011, made my initial cash by salvaging after fleet fights, then trained up 43 million skillpoints exclusively in frigates, destroyers, assault ships, interceptors, EWAR frigates and interdictors. Now I'm unfucking reservations for EG leadership in turkish-mafia-related Join EG today! 
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Feb 18, 2014 19:07
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Maneck posted:While this text is not inaccurate, a caution might be worthwhile. It is unrealistic to expect to earn enough to pay for account time in game for the first 4-5 months. Most goons earn their Plexs via Fixed that for ya. Plexing is for the lunatics like Sixx who want to be handed a contract to go and shoot a tower for an hour and make 20m pawning off the inevitable OSE. 
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Feb 18, 2014 19:14
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I joined Goonfleet in 2011, made a truckload of cash from scamming nerds and now i'm a director and oh god shoot me
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Feb 18, 2014 19:22
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E_Motion posted:Seriously? Amarr? I'm going to have to train LASERS? You don't HAVE to train lasers -- if you have hybrids trained, railguns are unironically used now as well. We'd use railguns exclusively, actually, if our enemies weren't shifting their tanks to the kinetic and thermal damage that railguns do.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:25
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I haven't played in years but I see now that they have BCs that can equip Large weapons. Are they any good? The cost of them is about how much Armageddons used to cost when I last played..
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Feb 18, 2014 19:28
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BadLlama posted:I haven't played in years but I see now that they have BCs that can equip Large weapons. Are they any good? The cost of them is about how much Armageddons used to cost when I last played.. They're pretty good. Their gimmick is that they are glass cannons, however; you cannot fit a particularly meaningful tank to any of them. This makes them good for things like alpha striking ships, ganking freighters in highsec, and sniping. I flew a tachyon Oracle for a while, it was a lot of fun.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:32
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I joined Goonswarm in 2011, made my initial cash by salvaging after fleet fights, then trained up 43 million skillpoints exclusively in frigates, destroyers, assault ships, interceptors, EWAR frigates and interdictors. EVE is real
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Feb 18, 2014 19:34
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Glory of Arioch posted:You don't HAVE to train lasers -- if you have hybrids trained, railguns are unironically used now as well. We'd use railguns exclusively, actually, if our enemies weren't shifting their tanks to the kinetic and thermal damage that railguns do. While you don't have to train lasers, you should. Lasers make this game worth playing all by themselves. Nothing quite like rainbow Abaddons and Revelations. Edit: Why can't we have an abaddon fleet? I have never been a "good fitter" so if someone can explain why it's a dumb idea, I'd be grateful.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:38
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Uh oh...Gevlon might be tired of funding all the wardecs with nothing to show for it (this was a Lemmings alliance mail sent out after they spent an entire afternoon reinforcing POCOs that they never came back to kill):quote:Donations and Great Future
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Feb 18, 2014 19:39
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Spiteski posted:While you don't have to train lasers, you should. Lasers make this game worth playing all by their little lonesome. Nothing quite like rainbow Abaddons and Revelations. That's something I've been waffling on. I'm currently training Minmatar stuff because change is frightening but I have all of Minmatar Frigates 4 on this character right now. So if Amarr is the new sliced bread it'd be pretty easy for me to migrate over.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:40
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smg77 posted:Uh oh...Gevlon might be tired of funding all the wardecs with nothing to show for it (this was a Lemmings alliance mail sent out after they spent an entire afternoon reinforcing POCOs that they never came back to kill): What does this guy have against RvB? That place is high sec's one redeeming feature. Edit: ^^^ it's not a bad idea to get minmatar frigates to five, no matter what. Hounds are one of the siege fleet top choices, and the stiletto(or slasher? I can never remember which is which) is a great interceptor. Spiteski fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Feb 18, 2014 |
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Feb 18, 2014 19:41
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Oh dammit at the dominix nerf tho, and nice new thread compared to old one.
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Maneck posted:While this text is not inaccurate, a caution might be worthwhile. It is unrealistic to expect to earn enough to pay for account time in game for the first 4-5 months. Most goons earn their Plexs via Plexing (no.5), but they do so via ships that can be run afk. Of all of the items in that list, only scamming (no. 2) and PI (no. 1) are doable by newbies and PI will not pay for an account immediately. Plan to scam, or plan to pay to play. I already put a specific note Some of the more common ways to make money are listed below - keep in mind that not all of them are newbie friendly but it shows you the scope of just what all you can do to get money. You dumbshit.
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Conskill posted:That's something I've been waffling on. I'm currently training Minmatar stuff because change is frightening but I have all of Minmatar Frigates 4 on this character right now. So if Amarr is the new sliced bread it'd be pretty easy for me to migrate over. Minmatar Frigate 5 is a fine frigate 5 to have. The stiletto, jaguar, wolf, cheetah, hound, burst, and slasher are all fine space wessels.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:43
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Spiteski posted:What does this guy have against RvB? That place is high sec's one redeeming feature. Frigate PVP isn't isk efficient. fake edit: Real reason is probably that we have some sort of arrangement regarding POCOs with RvB. I think they help us defend them or something.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:43
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Spiteski posted:While you don't have to train lasers, you should. Lasers make this game worth playing all by themselves. Nothing quite like rainbow Abaddons and Revelations. Abbadons get smoked by alpha fleet and are insanely skill intensive. We wouldn't be able to fill one with people who wouldn't cap themselves out.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:45
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Spiteski posted:What does this guy have against RvB? That place is high sec's one redeeming feature. Because something to deal with RvB and CFC not fighting over POCOS? Something like that, or whatever. I forget, his autism is too confusing for me to follow.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:46
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Join EG today! My app never got processed. I applied when I first joined and again recently. 
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Feb 18, 2014 19:47
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What i understood when i was in RvB is that there was struck a deal on it, i also noticed they started to assist in some of the highsec wars
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Feb 18, 2014 19:48
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vyst posted:... Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man.
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nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. Please don't start this again.
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Feb 18, 2014 19:50
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nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. Taxes must flow
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Feb 18, 2014 19:51
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smertrioslol posted:Abbadons get smoked by alpha fleet and are insanely skill intensive. We wouldn't be able to fill one with people who wouldn't cap themselves out. Uba Stij posted:Because something to deal with RvB and CFC not fighting over POCOS? Something like that, or whatever. I forget, his autism is too confusing for me to follow. I wish we could take credit for that. It's so good. nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. To be entirely fair, mining does become insanely profitable per hour after something like 10 accounts mining with boosts. No I don't mine. But I did once upon a time.
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Spiteski posted:That's a pretty compelling reason, thanks for that. Is there a way to change the eve folder so when I am in any ship it renders my screen showing it as an abaddon?(or any other ship really) I feel this would... We'll it wouldn't make any difference now I think about it, who the hell zooms in during fights. You'll note I have no clue what his logic is, I can't follow that level of idiocy.
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S-Alpha posted:Fixed that for ya. Plexing is for the lunatics like Sixx who want to be handed a contract to go and shoot a tower for an hour and make 20m pawning off the inevitable OSE. Thanks! vyst posted:I already put a specific note One of the more common complaints by new players is that they can't possibly earn enough during a trial to play for free. An explicit caution on the point is appropriate. Maneck fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Feb 18, 2014 |
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nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. Just because it's there doesn't mean I recommend it. But in all honesty a lot of dudes mine and they're cool with it. I mean as long as they are making money and keep playing in the name of the swarm gently caress if I care how they get isk.
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nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. It's also not Vyst's list.
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nullEntityRNG posted:Bolded for emphasis. Why would you even have this. Why. Come on man. Mining is what you do if you really really really want to multibox. It's not great if you're doing it with 1-3 characters, but if you are the sort of person who wants to start multiboxing 10+ accounts it can't be beat.
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Maneck posted:Thanks! You're right. They usually can't. But warning them that they can't might steer them clear of the game in general rather than just trying it out a least.
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vyst posted:You're right. They usually can't. But warning them that they can't might steer them clear of the game in general rather than just trying it out a least. i kinda started out mining when i started in november, but quickly turned towards other proffesions for isk
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AmericanGeeksta posted:There used to be a couple good ones (Eve Altruist and Crazy Kinux come to mind) but today, most of them are terrible, especially the ones outside of TMC and CZ. I thought altruist had stopped?...
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Cerebral Wolf posted:I thought altruist had stopped?... He did say "used to be" I think TMC has a good amount of blog-type entries interspersed with its proper news stuff, but it would be nice if there was a little more, or somewhere that isn't en24 that had more interesting reads about eve. It's hard to fill a working day. Edit: stupidly fat fingering my phone.
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vyst posted:You're right. They usually can't. But warning them that they can't might steer them clear of the game in general rather than just trying it out a least. If you are so wishy-washy about playing a game that having someone tell you that you probably will have to pay for it is a deal breaker, why are you playing in the first place?
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Cerebral Wolf posted:I thought altruist had stopped?... As stated before "used to be".  I guess I wouldn't necessarily consider TMC and CZ "blogs" in a traditional sense. But they are better than any of the current active traditional blogs I've come across.
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FYI -- logging into a character in Jita can be broken in Rubicon 1.2. If Jita is full (and for some reason it is full on a Tuesday afternoon?  ), the popup you used to get to move you to a neighboring system is busted. You get the "YOU CAN'T LOG IN SHITLORD" flash, but no popup appears, and attempting to click on your character does nothing. The workaround until CCP fixes it is to completely exit Eve and launch it again from the launcher, then try to log in to Jita again. Eventually, you'll get lucky and squeeze into a window where Jita is below its player cap and let you in.
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ah crap, gotta remeber that then if i happend to end up in jita for some weird reason in the weekend.
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smg77 posted:Uh oh...Gevlon might be tired of funding all the wardecs with nothing to show for it (this was a Lemmings alliance mail sent out after they spent an entire afternoon reinforcing POCOs that they never came back to kill): What are the average fleet sizes these guys are sending out?
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JohnSherman posted:If you are so wishy-washy about playing a game that having someone tell you that you probably will have to pay for it is a deal breaker, why are you playing in the first place? Because sometimes people are interested in a game but money is tight?
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evilweasel posted:Mining is what you do if you really really really want to multibox. It's not great if you're doing it with 1-3 characters, but if you are the sort of person who wants to start multiboxing 10+ accounts it can't be beat. Wouldn't multiboxing 10 ratters scale just as well when it comes to income?
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