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Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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I think he means violence from the rebels' side.

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Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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I considered mentioning that but I figured it would be the unpopular opinion. Nevertheless, I think you are right; there is nothing inherently better about a non-violent revolution.

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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Police were just following orders man.

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Dec 23, 2008

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Lord Windy posted:

I don't fully understand this but if both sides are terrible (Tymoshenko and Yanakovich) than what was this fight for?

It's not as if the choice is just between those two? They can elect other people?

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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Noctis Horrendae posted:

E: IIRC marching into foreign territory with unmarked troops directly violates the Geneva Convention, can anyone confirm this? I'm way too excited about this - I really want to see Russia get stomped.

Don't be silly, war laws don't apply to the top dogs.

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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Russia does not care about Georgia or the Ukraine, they are after you!

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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Maidan has ministers, I'm pretty sure that makes a government. Unless you want to make the argument all the current minister positions are powerless.

Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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Ensign Expendable posted:

Also, Kiev's self defense force is armed pretty nicely with looted police equipment, which, of course, hasn't been returned.

Well, if you just overthrew a government and there hadn't been elections yet, would you?

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Namarrgon
Dec 23, 2008

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If there was no Russia situation I would agree, but considering part of the nation is loving occupied by a hostile foreign power I don't think trying to get some impromptu militias going is sign of a dictatorship.

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