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Huttan
May 15, 2013

Noctis Horrendae posted:

"88" is a shortening of "14/88"

"88" stands for "HH" which is "Heil Hitler" (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

Svoboda (one of the opposition parties) uses some Nazi symbols and for a while limited their membership to pure ethnic Ukrainians. They are the only non-EU member of Alliance of European National Movements (a group that includes Jobbik and British National Party.


Snowdens Secret posted:

The professional troublemakers seemed 100% hired by the Yanuk side to make the protesters look bad.
Nope. Svoboda got 10% of the seats in the 2012 parliamentary elections.

2012 Ukrainian elections

quote:

Even now, Svoboda's platform calls for passports to specify the holder's ethnicity, and for government positions to be distributed proportionally to ethnic groups, based on their representation in the population at large.

"We want Ukrainians to run the country," says Bohdan, a participant in a recent Svoboda rally, as he waves a Ukrainian flag and organises cheering and chanting.

"Seventy percent of the parliament are Jews."

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20824693

What do folks think about this:

quote:

One of the first issues the parliament tackled this weekend was that of the language, annulling a bill that provided for Russian to be used as a second official language in regions with large Russian-speaking populations.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/ukraine-crisis-western-nations-eu-russia
That bill was one of the very controversial ones and it lead to fistfights in parliament.

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Huttan
May 15, 2013

Oracle posted:

'Could' meaning 'has the resources' or could meaning 'physically possible?' Because its a midterm election year in the U.S. and Congress is up, and the Republicans (which control the House, which controls the purse strings) aren't going to give anyone jack poo poo if they can possibly avoid it (except of course the military whether they want it or not) so they can come across as 'fiscally responsible/conservative/loving Obama' to the voters back home. They just killed a bill to expand financial help to veterans and their dependents by attaching Iranian sanctions to it because gently caress peace/Obama/muslims. Ukraine will be lucky to get anything this year, especially with the Republicans in the house extolling the virtues of a 'strong' Putin and wondering why Obama can't be a fascist.


I think a bailout of Ukraine would be extremely easy to pass through Congress. Dislike of Putin and Russia is pretty strong (from my observations), so it need only be pitched as "let's gently caress with Putin" and "Remember the invasion of Georgia" and "Putin is propping up Syria" and any amount asked would be provided. The Republicans I know loathe Putin and still call the country "Soviet Union", it is as if the Cold War never ended for them. The Iranian sanctions are mostly pushed by AIPAC/Israel.

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