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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is Grendel any good? It's been around forever, but that isn't always an indicator of quality... Grendel is so many different things, so it's hard to make a single recommendation. Grendel Omnibus Volume 1 would be a fantastic purchase if you are interested in pulpy, tragic crime stories where the protagonist is the villain. Hunter Rose is a slick, dashing master criminal who slowly takes over the East Coast underworld by striking fear in the hearts of criminals... and pretty much everyone else. He isn't all bad (he adopts a young girl), but he isn't great either (he is a shittier guardian than Bruce Wayne). His arch-enemy is a gross, scary, violent werewolf who occasionally helps the police, but doesn't hesitate to murder criminals, so Matt Wagner creates an interesting dichotomy between the "cool" villain protagonist and the upsetting, unsettling "hero" antagonist. The first story, Devil By the Deed, is the life story of Hunter Rose, retold as a prose story with beautiful Art Deco-inspired framing sequences, rather than a traditional comic book with sequential art in panels. After Devil By the Deed in the mid-'80s, Wagner wrote eight oversized issues full of short stories that fill in the blanks in Hunter Rose's life, each done by different artists with red as the only color in addition to black and white. Those stories from the late '90s and early '00s are very cool, and they flesh out the character you only get a vague idea of in Devil By the Deed. Two of the best Hunter Rose stories are not included in Grendel Omnibus Volume 1: Batman/Grendel (with Hunter Rose taking on Bruce Wayne early in both men's careers) and Grendel vs. The Shadow. Wagner wrote and drew both of these, and they are excellent. But Grendel is a legacy that lasts far beyond Hunter Rose's criminal career. Omnibus Volume 2 tells the story of the next two Grendels, also written by Wagner, with extremely '80s art by the Pander Brothers. These may not be for everyone due to the dated style of the artwork, but it's nothing like standard Marvel or DC art from the '80s -- more like what you might see in fashion ads and commercial illustration. Grendel Volume 3 is extremely erratic and experimental, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you are on board with everything else already. It brings us into a far-flung future where Grendel has become more of an idea, and that idea means AGGRESSION. Ultimately, the spirit of Grendel conquers the Earth, with Grendel clans and a Grendel Khan above all. But if you like post-apocalyptic sci-fi, especially like stuff from Heavy Metal/Metal Hurlant, you might like Grendel Volume 4. The longest and best story, Grendel: War Child, is about the cyborg paladin Grendel Prime, protecting a young boy by traveling across the dangerous, toxic Earth and encountering all kinds of natural and man-made traps and attacks. It has kind of a Terminator 2 feel with the Terminator's protective relationship with young John Connor, if it was set in a hellish future instead of 1991 Los Angeles. You might be able to find an older printing of the Grendel: War Child TPB if you don't want to spring for Omnibus Volume 4, since I don't care for either of the other stories in that volume (a long prose novel by Greg Rucka with illustrations by Wagner, and Wagner's Grendel: Devil Quest, which I thought was mean-spirited and unpleasant to read). And in the second Batman/Grendel miniseries, Grendel Prime travels back in time to retrieve Hunter Rose's skull from a museum in Gotham City and causes all kinds of collateral damage. That one has more of a Terminator 1 feel, with Batman in the Kyle Reese role standing up to this powerful, violent machine from the future. Then the more recent Grendel Odyssey miniseries was about Grendel Prime exploring deep space, trying to find habitable planets to save humanity. It continues the Heavy Metal sort of tone, and thankfully is a lot more like War Child (fun) than Devil Quest (not fun). In the '90s, Dark Horse also published several Grendel Tales miniseries by creators other than Wagner, but those were usually about ancillary characters. I read a few back in the early '00s, but the only one I liked was Grendel Tales: Four Devils, One Hell, kind of a post-apocalyptic Western about four very different future Grendels (including a cool gambler/dandy-type character named Calhoun). James Robinson, of Starman/Golden Age fame, wrote that one. I hope that helps. I don't love every single Grendel-related series, but I like the vast majority of it, and I have so much respect for Matt Wagner as a creator. He's a lovely guy, too. I just met him for the second time at a recent convention, and he was kind enough to sketch some cool remarques in the books I brought him to sign. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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I’m trying to buy some omnibus/tradeback collections for my niece (9yo) who is just starting to get into comics/graphic novels. Personally, I loved Spider-Man/hulk/ghost rider/xmen, when I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), as I remember the runs had (relatively) good artwork and exciting storylines while still tackling social issues like corporate greed, racism, depression/social isolation, etc, but I’m worried I might be looking through rose-colored glasses and/or ignoring better work out there. Not trying to only look at superhero stuff, either, I just haven’t really kept up with graphic novels since I was much younger so I don’t really know what’s out there. Any ideas/suggestions?
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There’s so many graphic novels for kids nowadays. For her age, maybe Baby Sitter’s Little Sister? The stuff by Raina Telgermeier (Teeth, Guts, Drama, etc) is good too. Hooky and Amulet are popular fantasy series for kids, Wings of Fire, too, although those are originally prose, similar to Baby Sitters’ Club. There’s the Warriors series, too, although, again, those are primarily prose. In manga, there’s the Pokémon comics and just so many different comics about cats. I’d recommend Chi’s Sweet Home, for one. Witch Hat Atelier is technically for adults but is extremely kid-friendly. Super hero stuff I know less about. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, maybe?
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Mar 1, 2024 21:59
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Just looking at stuff I bought my nieces around that age: Bone The OZ books Lumberjanes Cleopatra Princeless Tea Dragon Lumberjanes WWAC recently put up a gift guide and I saved some things for future gifts. https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2024/01/favorite-2023-comics-young-readers/
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Great suggestions! Thanks so much both of y’all! I’ll keep checking back for more, but those will at least get me started E. Seriously, thanks so much! I ended up getting more than I expected and stuff that is much better (and more age appropriate) than what I was browsing! For the curious Bandette v1 Lumberjanes v1 Chi’s v1 Smiles/Sisters/Guts Picture Day Things in the Basement Brother Tadger fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Bad Machinery is pretty good. It's about kids a little bit older than that, but I think kids generally like reading about kids a little bit older. If you think she might be lgbtq+ (sometimes you can tell early) Claremont's X-Men is a good way for her to figure it out early, but I'd probably wait until she was double digits in age at least.
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Are any of the Crow comics other than the original any good?
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Brother Tadger posted:Great suggestions! Thanks so much both of y’all! I’ll keep checking back for more, but those will at least get me started She might like Dungeon Critters by Natalie Riess and Sara Goetter
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How is Saucer Country?
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What are the best books put out by Image atm? I used to love Invincible and Walking Dead. I read the first issue of Void Rivals but am hesitant to read more if it leans too heavily into the gi Joe and transformers material.
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everyone's hyped about spawn and the maxx is pretty cool but I'd say go with savage dragon
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Void Rivals only skirts the edges of the Transformers universe so far. It's been enjoyable to me, but I also do enjoy Transformers.
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Rook: Exodus had a good first issue (it’s new)
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This might be too broad a request, but my girlfriend asked for comics written by women the other day. When pressed a bit for more specific desires, she added that they should have characters with some depth and that characters other than men should have agency. I'll editorialize the request a little and say that non-binary authors are also welcome. I rattled off a couple of things that turned up in my memory - Lumberjanes, the current run of She-hulk, Rainbow Rowell's run on Runaways - but my memory is pretty bad at the best of times and I tend to read in my corner of the comics world. I'd appreciate any suggestions the thread can give based on this limited information, both for her and myself. If it helps, some things about her: she's a queer and PoC immigrant (and this is core to her identity and interests) in her mid thirties, she's always making art in various forms (podcasting, drawing, making zines and music, writing) and she's very politically engaged. She reads a lot of theory around feminism and race, and thinks a lot about ways to build family and community beyond the norms and traditions in place. She speaks English and French and has Malagasy roots that I think she'd love to see reflected in media. To be honest, I vaguely worry that if she just picked up and read the stuff I read she might dismiss it, as she's frankly a lot more literary than I am.
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Woebin posted:This might be too broad a request, but my girlfriend asked for comics written by women the other day. When pressed a bit for more specific desires, she added that they should have characters with some depth and that characters other than men should have agency. I'll editorialize the request a little and say that non-binary authors are also welcome. Does it have to be capeshit or pop culture stuff? There's My Favourite Thing is Monsters, Julie Doucet's work, Jillian Tamaki, Kate Beaton, Trina Robbins, Emily Carroll, Lynda Barry, Joyce Farmer, Carol Tyler, Gabrielle Bell etc. etc. fez_machine fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Monstress is written and illustrated by two Asian women. Most of the characters are female, and the protagonist and others are queer.
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fez_machine posted:Does it have to be capeshit or pop culture stuff? Action Jacktion posted:Monstress is written and illustrated by two Asian women. Most of the characters are female, and the protagonist and others are queer.
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Woebin posted:Absolutely doesn't have to be cape poo poo or pop culture stuff, in fact recommendations outside that sphere seem preferable. We both already like Kate Beaton's stuff, I'll check the rest of what you're mentioning out. Thank you! At risk of going for the obvious choice, Alison Bechdel's work is excellent underground (at time of writing) stuff. Fun Home is a great tragicomic memoir and Dykes To Watch Out For is 20 years straight of lesbian political soap opera.
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mutantIke posted:At risk of going for the obvious choice, Alison Bechdel's work is excellent underground (at time of writing) stuff. Fun Home is a great tragicomic memoir and Dykes To Watch Out For is 20 years straight of lesbian political soap opera.
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ann nocenti's kid eternity run is good. there's no emphasis on women folk having agency but thinking back I can't really think of anyone really having agency
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Woebin posted:This might be too broad a request, but my girlfriend asked for comics written by women the other day. When pressed a bit for more specific desires, she added that they should have characters with some depth and that characters other than men should have agency. I'll editorialize the request a little and say that non-binary authors are also welcome.
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Woebin posted:This might be too broad a request, but my girlfriend asked for comics written by women the other day. When pressed a bit for more specific desires, she added that they should have characters with some depth and that characters other than men should have agency. I'll editorialize the request a little and say that non-binary authors are also welcome. Because the other suggestions are non cape poo poo, I'm going to suggest some cape poo poo. G Willow Willson's run of Ms. Marvel. Gail Simone on Red Sonya, Gail Simone again on Bird's of Prey, Anne Nocenti's Daredevil, Kelly Sue Deconnick on Captain Marvel, and for a non cape book Kelly Sue Deconnick on Bitch Planet.
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Going to add Kelly Thompson's Black Widow and Gail Simone's (again) Domino.
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