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Madkal
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Karenina posted:

I just finished Berlin by Jason Lutes, loved it, and want to read more like it. What are some similar comics? I tend not to read comics outside a handful of webcomics, but some works I've liked are The Wire, Kill Six Billion Demons, and (not finished yet) the Legend of Galactic Heroes.

Bonus if it's a comic revolving around a city. Not totally sure how to describe it, but it's the vibe I got from Berlin, The Wire, and James Joyce's Dubliners.

A comic based around a city (kind of) is City of Glass by David Mazzucchelli, based on the detective short story by Paul Auster might be up your alley.

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This has probably been answered a hundred times but....
With Saga on this stupidly long hiatus I noticed that my reading list is pretty much big two heavy, with Black Hammer and Gideon Falls being the only none big 2 titles I'm following so I was wondering what are some good non big two series to be reading. Something preferably new (ie from the last year or two or current). I'm not looking for any deep long runs I need to read several trades to catch up on (at least nothing like that for the moment) so recent stuff would be better.

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Selachian posted:

The original Ostrander Suicide Squad had a pretty good Kobra story arc -- looking it up, it was issues #45-47.

Ostrander's Suicide Squad had a few arcs revolving around Kobra, even early on. They pop up every now and again, including a recent-ish arc of the more recent Suicide Squad where they kidnapped Deadshot's daughter. I think they appeared in Checkmate as well.

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Best Lemire: Essex County (which kind of puts everything else to shame), The Nobody, Underwater Wielder

Solid Lemire: Sweet Tooth, Green Arrow, Black Hammer (started in best category but kind of lost its way), Gideon Falls, Roughneck (which is way below Essex County)

Misfire Lemire: Justice League unlimited, Futures End.

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And if you like Sandman I highly recommend Unwritten and Lucifer, written by Carey and drawn by Gross that carries a lot of similar themes to Sandman.
Also thirding or fourthing Starman which feels like very much a product of it's time but timeless at the same time.

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Through the woods be Emily Carroll is great. Also check out Infidel

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Tiny Titans seems pretty good for that age range.

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I don't think anyone recommended Black Hammer. For shame. It's all Lemire doing a love letter to superheroes. If you like Astro City (another solid book to look into) give Black Hammer a shot. It's a bit more focus than AC, and it follows a bunch of superheroes trapped in a small town farm without knowing why they are there. Lots of great personal stuff and a mystery that kind of meanders. It kind of just finished, but Lemire did a few offshoots as well.

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Taeke posted:

Ah, thanks, I'll check that out because I'm more interested in how she joined the Avengers than the whole world ending bit, although if I get around to it I'll still probably read it. I've read some Squirrel Girl a while ago, I should get back to it. Old Man Logan was really good, read that a couple of years ago.

Other mentions that I've read are Planetary (which was pretty cool, but also didn't really stuck with me) and Transmetropolitan, which was totally my jam. (so much so that I strongly considered doing my thesis on it.) Also Watchmen, of course, which was great.

I mentioned it before but I seriously recommend Black Hammer as a great superhero jam that is fairly self contained in its own universe. There are some off-shoots/one offs but those aren't really needed to enjoy the main story. If you like good character studies, homages and a strange mystery give the book a shot.

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Can I get some recommendations of some good/great X-Men runs that take place between Astonishing X-Men (Whedon's run) and Hickman's X-Men run. There is a local second hand book shop that usually carries a lot of second graphic novels and a lot of second hand X-Men graphic novels as well and I would like to read some more of those. Should mention that I have been reading Wolverine and the X-Men so no need to recommend that.

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Any non Hellboy and non Black Hammer Dark Horse recommendations? I am going to pick up volume 3 of Umbrella Academy and figure maybe I should give some Dark Horse titles a look at as well.

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sliami posted:

I just read Breaking Glass and it was a banger. I can't stop thinking about Steve Pugh's work for it. Speaking of, do you guys know any other good books with him/artists on his tier?

He was the artist on the most recent Flintstones comic which I enjoyed.

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I was reading Baltimore through my public library and got to the penultimate volume and then the lockdown and such happened. Now I'm waiting for things to open once again so I can pick up the final volume.

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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

Any comics about occult/supernatural/pulpy stuff?

I've read and loved:
Hellboy
DC: The New Frontier


also loved Batman brave and the bold which was a cartoon.

I will always always always recommend Ostrander's Spectre run. Always
There are probably some good Constantine/Hellblazer runs but I have never really read the title so I don't know enough to recommend.

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Oh, also check out Fatale by Brubaker and Phillips for some really good supernatural pulpy (I guess stuff). Basically follows the idea of the noir femme fatale motif mixed in with some Lovecraftian Elder gods evil monsters.

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I might have a lead on some Kate Spencer Manhunter trades. Are they worth picking up?

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I read the first 50 issues and got burnt out very quickly on the misery porn of it all, but it is well written (if not repetitive) and if you like character drama amongst death and zombies give it a shot. The price is right at least.

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I recommend anything by Jeff Lemire. Give Royal City a shot, or Sweet Tooth, or Plutona or Roughneck, or about the 100 other non big two books he has done.

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Kevin DuBrow posted:

Are the Cerebus comics good or have a good arc to jump into? Also, the Wikipedia page says that the later comics feature the creator's "controversial beliefs" and I was wondering what that's about.

Dave Sim? Controversial? Thanks for giving me an excuse to post this infamous interview. It starts with the interviewer asking a silly question and delves into barely restrained spite from the first answer onwards.

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I would recommend Sweet Tooth if you want something post apocalyptic, strong damaged men making strong damaged men and such.

Also its about 6 issues in but Goddamned by Jason Aaron is also a hell wasteland world with bastards (well not really) doing very gory angry stuff to one another.

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There is also Marshal Law which is kind of a proto-Judge Dredd meets the Boys. If you want bleak cynicism, superheroes as fascist perverts and some fun art from the guy who did League of Extraordinary Gentlemen you might like that.

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Frog Act posted:

I appreciate all the recommendations! I'm gonna check out Saga, Chew, Global Frequency, and Maximortal and see what I settle on after The Boys. I forgot to add that I actually read Marshal Law awhile ago and absolutely loved it. Stuff from the 80s-90s in particular really seems to do it for me, but my comics experience is really limited so I'm looking forward to reading some of these that I've never heard of.

I was watching a streaming site with random episodes and the old x-men cartoon from when I was a child in the early 90s came on and it got me wondering, are there any "good" X-Men comics that would appeal to someone who has been enjoying the stuff I've mentioned thus far? I remember reading them when I was a kid and they were for sale in grocery stores and stuff but I can't imagine they're the kind of thing I'd enjoy as an adult, really, but also suspect there probably are some in the X-men universe that might be slightly less generic or whatever?

ed: also if anyone has any recommendations for like, cyberpunk stuff in the vein of Dredd or, slightly differently, hard science fiction stuff with Clarke esque vibes, I'd be interested in those too

Another title I should mention is Tokyo Ghost which is a cyber punk dystopian book about technology and stuff. It's only 12 issues but should scratch the itch you have.

As for X-Men I would recommend Age of Apocalypse as an amazing X-Men event, again with crazy dystopian vibes.

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Burdens of Beast is a great horror but might be a bit.....sad for a kid. Think of Homeward Bound mixed with Lovecraft.

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I would recommend getting a hold of Golden Age and Starman by James Robinson if you want some historical DC stuff. Also JSA by Johns is pretty good for history of DC stuff as well. If you want to read a good history and future story Kingdom Come is the thing for you as well.

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Jupiter Jazz posted:

I mean, is Rebirth good for learning DC lore as it appears to be a celebration of it?

Ah......eh........Rebirth is more of a "we made a mistake discarding history and lore with nu-52 so we are going to admit it with Rebirth". I wouldn't say its a good jumping on point if you want something that celebrates DC lore and history (though if you want to read Rebirth hoping for that then you should probably read Doomsday Clock which works with DC history and lore). IMO though it isn't really a good celebration and learning tool for the DCU. It's more of Johns going "the DCU should be happy and hopeful unlike everything I write which isn't that".
You already read New Frontier which would be a great intro to lore and celebration. Golden Age (mentioned before) is another one that explores the heroes of the 40's and 50's and is really a fun story. Starman explores the idea of legacy and the connection between the original DC heroes and the current ones.

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For entire Bat family line I guess Batman Eternal. Probably the best bet is a crossover but good ones are quite rare. I guess Contagion is okay (Legacy isn't) or for a good one read No Man's Land.

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bobkatt013 posted:

Not war games and war crimes?

I don't know if this is a serious post or not but in case it is then no, not war crimes/games

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I read A Once Crowded Sky ages ago by Tom King and I am wondering about some recommendations for some novels by comic book writers. Also chances are I have asked this question before and if I have I apologize

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It feels like Daredevil:Shadow land has been mind wiped from people's memory.

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Selachian posted:

I'm not an Ennis fan myself, but I think you'll like Hitman if you liked The Boys.

Another possibility is Marshal Law, which is superhero satire like The Boys, although broader and more cartoonishly violent.

Going to second Marshal Law if you want heroes are all pervy fascists. If you want the exact polar how is this even in the same medium of that opposite check out Astro City. It's another world populated by superheroes but instead of being nihilistically cynical it is pretty hopeful and great.

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RadicalTranslation posted:

I'm currently working through post-crisis DC stuff. Can anyone recommend me the best runs here between 1986-2000 besides the obvious stuff? AKA hidden gems

Anything by Ostrander (Suicide Squad and Spectre). I am a sucker for Batman and really enjoyed the Moench/Jones/Beaty run.

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I like 90s Batman. Don't listen to the haters. Also 90s Green Lantern gave us Kyle Rayner and while his run was uneven I am a sucker for the character.

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It's almost like "all 90s comics that aren't vertigo" is a hyperbole.

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

What Suicide Squad is good other than the awesome Ostrander stuff?

Quality goes up and down but Taylor's recent run is probably the most consistent over the 12 issues it runs. Adam Glass's Nu-52 run isn't as bad as people make it out to be but I wouldn't say it is a classic.
Honestly if you want a good "Suicide Squad" comic that is really good and stuff, and don't mind it not being called Suicide Squad pick up Simone's Villains United/Secret Six runs.

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Selachian posted:

Speaking of, if you liked Ostrander's Squad, you should take a look at the Deadshot miniseries he wrote.

And if you like Deadshot and Ostrander's mini you should check out Gage's Deadshot mini which is tonally different than Ostrander's but a lot of fun.

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I noticed a second book shop nearby has some Ennis Punisher trades available. Are they worth picking up?

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They are these:

https://www.amazon.ca/Marvel-Knight...18435770&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.ca/Marvel-Knight...18435770&sr=8-5

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site posted:

Oh, nah

Dang. Any particular trades of the run I should look out for in case they get any of those?

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Second hand book shop nearby keeps getting more and more trades. Noticed they had X-Treme X-Men. The name is putting me off though. Is it worth getting (I think they have 4 trades). Also a few mid-2000 Spiderman books. I know Slott is disliked in these parts but is Spiderman no good?

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Skwirl posted:

There's two different runs called X-Treme X-Men of very different relative qualities. The Greg Pak written version is dece.

Most people hate Dan Slott specifically because of his Spider-Man.

I think the ones they have are Claremont.

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