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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Jiro posted:

JLA/Avengers is the poo poo just for that premise alone. Also Cap beating the poo poo out of Prometheus was kick rear end.

"Try fighting the Wehrmacht, pal. It teaches you focus!"

Prometheus is actually beaten in his first appearance when Catwoman hits him in the nuts with her whip.


Also:

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Jul 19, 2015

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Travis343 posted:

Like I bet Batman has three or four contingency plans to take himself out, should the need arise.

Didn't one take on the "plans to be everyone" angle end with him confronted with this question, and he says something like, "I do. It's called the Justice League"?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Jedi Council: Acts of War #4:





Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

WickedHate posted:

I don't get when people don't enjoy the suffering of bad people more.

2 edgy 4 me

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

WickedHate posted:

No, I actually don't have (affective) empathy, but am also a sadist as well. :shrug:

2edgy4me

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
If that is what I have done then I apologise. The tedious "why aren't more people psyched about bad people being tortured to death" gimmick (et al.) evidently led me to draw the wrong conclusions.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

TwoPair posted:

The one that always sticks in my memory/nightmares is the reporter who built a phasing machine to pass through walls and spy on people but ended up stuck intangible phasing down to the center of the earth.

The one that always stuck out to me wasn't a guy dying - it was in the episode where he fights this teenagers who've been augmented with cybernetics by a prosthetics specialist; one of them has chainsaws in his wrists and knees, and when Terry works out the code word that deactivates their enhancements, the guy's arms and legs just... fall apart. :stare:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I also remember the one where Bane has become a decrepit Venom-addicted invalid hooked up to a respirator whose minder is using his blood (?) to turn Venom into a performance-enhancing street drug, then dies (?) when he accidentally overdoses in a fight with Batman.

Did any of the show's artists or animators ever produce any concept art of what Curare's face was meant to look like?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Doesn't that comic end with Ali revealing he knows Superman's secret identity because it was one of the conditions for letting them use his likeness?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FredMSloniker posted:

I got that. The joke was that the sword is waaaaay bigger than:


(Source: X-Men #1. No, I don't know which one.)

Huh.

Maybe she could use her psychic knife to give Magneto a quick shave once she's done rendering him insensible. Looks like he could use it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

prefect posted:

Sure, I bet that's a popular excuse after a gang of people beat up an Auschwitz survivor.

She heard "Jewish", assumed "Israeli", thought "Fascist" and concluded "Fair game" (and then probably went and bragged about it on Comment Is Free).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Die Laughing posted:

That fight is a good example of why Marv Wolfman was always writing Wally West out of Teen Titans.

If I recall the back matter from the IC hardcover correctly, Meltzer's idea was that Slade was meant to be using their powers against them (which doesn't exactly explain how Black Canary is incapacitated when he puts a bag over her head and handcuffs her) and he made a point of remarking about how he's beaten when everyone dogpiles him without using their powers.

I think this was the start of that whole "Deathstroke is a top-tier bad guy!" thing DC was pushing in the mid-2000s.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Traxus IV posted:

With the bag on her head she thought it was night time and fell asleep.

Seems legit.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I think that's not actually Thunderball - I think it's Mordred (Morgan le Fay's son) disguised as Thunderball. Something like that, anyway. It was hard to tell because the resolution of that plot was pretty rushed - Austen took up too much space on the subplot with Hawkeye shagging the Wasp and Hank Pym throwing up when he walks in on them.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I enjoy DeFalco/Ryan Fantastic Four. :shobon: (:downs:)

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Ashcans posted:

I guess there are probably special doctors who make crazy superhero biology their area of study. It's probably a lot of insane frontier-style guesswork. "Well you're mostly made of rocks so basically we're going to fill this up with spackle and hope for the best'.

Does Marvel have any of those? DC has (had?) Dr Mid-Nite but the closest I can think of in Marvel is probably Moira MacTaggart (who's been dead for years at this point).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

I could never forget how many episodes that Spiderman cartoon in the 90s forced me to sit through him,

And he looked and sounded sort of like Tommy Wiseau.

"YOU ARE TEARING ME AP-AHT feLICIA!"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

He's the shocker because otherwise he'd be "The vibrator"......... :]

I believe Max Landis made this joke in his Shocker fanfic from 10-15 years ago.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

AnonSpore posted:

You reminded me that this existed, why

You don't want to be reminded of the story where Shocker uses his gauntlets to explode Bullseye's testicles?!

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
You can read the whole thing here, if you feel so inclined.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Flesh Forge posted:

Yeah someone read the drafts of that and said "Hmm yes this is good, we should print this."

Sure, have you not heard the story about the genesis of Identity Crisis being an editor at DC (I've heard it was actually a female editor, but I don't know for a fact) saying, "We need a rape!"?

Likewise, the story about the pages in question arriving at the office and another editor cheerfully announcing, "The rape pages are in!"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Travis343 posted:

DC comics : it's about arm reduction

I wonder what DC's dismemberment ground zero is? I want to say it's that issue of Hawkman by Geoff Johns where Matter Master has this big villain speech where he boasts about how Hawkman is no match for him and he's in for the fight of his life, then Hawkman hacks off his arm with an axe and grunts, "Fight's over," to the onlookers as he leaves.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Dario the Wop posted:

To be fair, that was part of a story arc where Hawkman was isolating himself, becoming too extreme in his methods, and ends up getting kicked out of the JSA. Cutting off Matter Master's arm was a big deal at the time, the JSA were horrified.

I know, but I'm just wondering if that's the moment Geoff Johns wrote, "Hawkman throws his axe and cuts off Matter Master's arm," then thought, "That was awesome! I've got to do that again!"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Die Laughing posted:

Geoff Johns just isn't sensitive to that kind of violence. Rucka asked him about it during 52, and Johns just said he grew up on Mortal Kombat and didn't see the problem. It doesn't bother me either. He puts too much heart into his writing to accuse him of making gore porn.

Well, I don't object to comics with violence but I guess with Johns it can sometimes (not always, certainly) come off as a bit try-hard ("Look at how grown-up these comics are!") in my view. Still, I suppose there's not really any harm in that. :shrug:

Not quite as bad as Robert Kirkman doing Invincible, of course (though there it's often so over-the-top and ridiculously violent that it loops round and becomes absurd).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lurdiak posted:

He's lost sight of his principles, and Spider-man reminds him of that, and it hurts him more than anything else could.

I feel that there's a lot of Ditko's philosophy in this.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Evil Mastermind posted:

Particularly when it involves the Clone Saga.

Pre-Clone Saga Spider-Man in the 1990s would probably be summed up by Solo smashing through a window firing two machine guns and yelling, "WHILE I LIVE, TERROR DIES!"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Dexie posted:

Is this the second one?



Because this is a pretty great page. :allears:

What's that from? I've seen that page before.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Is Magneto quoting something there, or is it just something Scott Lobdell made up? I can't find it online.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Travis343 posted:

Which means there should have been a lot more superheros in history and not just all of them showing up to fight Hitler.

Some versions of the wizard Shazam's origin have him as a shepherd boy living in Canaan circa 5000 BC who was bestowed with superhuman powers by a fictional pantheon of gods, which made him the world's first superhero.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Not sure of the exact issue: I would guess Excalibur #66 or 67:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

bobkatt013 posted:

In fringe they were getting all pissed at Peter wanting to go back to his universe as it would erase them and their lives/experiences.

Also Stargate: Continuum.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Wanderer posted:

Reread the comic and count the times where somebody could've taken out Thanos or removed the gauntlet from him were it not for Warlock's "plan." The most notable one is where Wolverine jumps at Thanos and stabs him in the chest, rather than taking Thanos's arm off at the elbow, and Quasar spends the whole fight just floating there like a moron.

Edit: Hell, just count the times where fifteen to twenty other superheroes sit there like bumps on a log and watch somebody else die.

There is one bit where Thor has Thanos basically at his mercy, but can't finish him off because Doom gets in the way and tries to take the Gauntlet for himself.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

RIPSPLISTS!!!

That's my new favorite word

It's the sound you make when you use your "most deadliest attack".

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Captain Bravo posted:

To be fair, if someone could bake a cake in 1 minute flat I would probably pledge them my eternal allegiance.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

Has the Spectre ever dealt with the Joker?

Only one that occurs to me is a J.M. DeMatteis fill-in issue of JLA just before the last Morrison story arc, which I think took place pretty soon after Hal Jordan became the Spectre. It has a bit where Martian Manhunter takes the Spectre and the JLA into the Joker's head, where they find this friendly couple who welcome them and invite them to make themselves at home, to prove that there's something to redeem even in the most twisted human mind of all.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Herr Tog posted:

By the way thank you for this amazing poo poo

Also, I think that's actually Morgaine Le Fay's evil son (?) Mordred in disguise as Thunderball.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless










Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Sigma-X posted:

What Star War is that guy fighting in? That looks cool.

Story is "Incident At Horn Station" from Star Wars Tales #2.

The Jedi was never named in the story but I remember reading that he was possibly meant to be a young Qui-Gon Jinn.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Last page of the story (which I didn't post) has him on a stretcher being loaded onto a ship so he can be taken to stand trial.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah, Sean Phillips was the artist on that. The writer was Dan Jolley.

I believe that was the original concept of Star Wars Tales - they'd get well-known comic writers and artists in to create any story they wanted because the Tales series was ostensibly non-canon.

The first issue had a story written by Peter David called "Skippy the Jedi Droid" which has become pretty infamous in the interceding 20-ish years.

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