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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Did Fish Police ever resolve why the main guy had memories of being human? That was maybe one of my first narrative frustrations. Kids should not be given Fish Police, although I guess it is kind of best suited for them.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Eartha Kitt Catwoman

Racist undercover Lois Lane

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Unmature posted:

So I read this issue of Uncanny X-Men Annual today and it goes on this crazy romp through the Marvel offices. It reminded me of Ultimate Marvel Team Up when Spidey chases some skrulls through the same building. Did this happen any more times? It'd be cool of it happened like once every 10 years or so. Though now so many people work off site that it wouldn't be nearly as exciting.

There's a Fantastic Four in the 60s where Dr. Doom harasses Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. There's also a What If? Stan wrote about the original Marvel office crew becoming the Fantastic Four. Stan has a mustache and Jack is The Thing. Stan's secretary is Invisible Girl because there weren't any other women working there at the time.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

There were some He-Man comics with Superman that I imagine can't be mentioned these days, though DC has more out with messed-up history like that than Marvel does.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Mr. Maltose posted:

It's not even been a year, has it?

It's been like 30 for the ones I'm thinking of. I don't know anything about comics after 1995. I am sorry.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

They sell their stuff as a third-party seller on amazon. I bought the same volume that way and it came pretty fast and looked good.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Does anyone know where this series of illustrations by noted pornographer Milo Manara was originally published? It's not work safe, as it's full of nudity and gory killing. Online it usually has a title like "the history of humanity."

:nws: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/oy50p :nws:

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I mean, that's always gonna be a thing with the X-Men though. One of their foremost characters is a walking comparison between fictional mutant hatred and the real life greatest, most hideous moral crime of the 20th century.

What makes this so tin-eared though is that she's a white person yelling at black characters about real-life racism to make a point about a fictional, made-up minority. Like, that's getting the lesson completely backward if you're schooling a real-life minority that gets actual poo poo in order to teach a lesson about the fantasy vehicle designed to teach kids about racism.

I can imagine some shithead suburban kid reading along in his 1986 basement bar on a beanbag chair and getting so pissed at the dumb black character who doesn't understand the noble oppressed soul of the beautiful white characters and their difficult lives.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Don't forget hero teams Force Works, Fantastic Force, and, arguably, X-Force.

I think it was just an attempt to give people even more of what they theoretically kind of liked.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

CapnAndy posted:

We've never gotten an official confirmation on the four Supermen like we did on Azrael, but it's too goddamn pat to ignore, especially when it and KnightsWhatever hit all the same "you don't really want this, let us show you why" beats.

It was surely a stunt designed to last only a little while that had the robot designed to be the villain from the start, but the other three were clearly designed to be viable characters and have their own titles. There's no doubt you're supposed to take them seriously, especially Steel.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Dan Didio posted:

He was busy. I think Superman forgave him.

Think of all the terrible performance reviews Hal Jordan must have gotten: he has a whole sector of space to watch out for and spends 90% of his time busting bank robbers on this one planet while there are hundreds of others probably getting burned up by supernovas and frozen by ice ages every week.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

prefect posted:

If somebody were to describe Alan Moore's work (Watchmen in particular) as "cryptofascist propaganda", what would be the best way to gently dissuade them?

Give them some Frank Miller comics to read.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Why do so many of the early Spider-Man comics characters have cornrows? Off the top of my head, Green Goblin, Harry Osborne, and Sandman have the same weirdo haircut. Did 60s white guys really ever wear their hair that way, or was it just easy to draw? And in the case of Norman and Harry, did Ditko think that haircuts were heritable?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

bobkatt013 posted:

In Chapter One John Byrne said that Sandman and the Osbornes were related due to the haircut

Did he also want to make Magneto related to Uncle Ben and the guy who molested Spider-Man as a kid?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Waterhaul posted:

It's combed back wavey hair, not cornrows.

Mind blown. It's just brill-creamed curly hair, like dudes from the 40's:


This is crazier than when I learned what Jughead's hat was, or the dots on Dagwood's chest.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Soonmot posted:

Do tell.

Sorry. They're big buttons left over from when he wore a tuxedo in the Depression. He got changed to an office drone in the 40s, but his cummerbund and buttons stayed because nobody knew what they were supposed to be.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

And Aunt May was completely unaffected by her years spent in European prison? That sounds slightly worse for her heart condition than the shock of learning that Peter is Spider-Man.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Die Laughing posted:

You'd think everyone would figure out Peter is Spider-Man after everyone he knew had been replaced by robots (parents), actors(aunt), and clones(himself), or just straight up went missing (MJ) during the nineties.

I bet that's pretty common in the Marvel version of New York, though. There must be hundreds of people with secret identities running around, and villains must make mistakes sometimes. I'm sure accidental identification as superhero is covered by insurance, plus all the people who get replaced by robots because they work at a physics lab, or a bank, or live next door to SHIELD or something.


Rents must be really cheap in Marvel New York. Explains why anybody would want to live there.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

When you do it, be sure to say something racist about those god-damned Irish taking over the whole country, and how like Iron Man and Barry Allen keep acting like you're saying something bad when you're just telling it like it is!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Skwirl posted:

I'd be Namor, actually scratch that. Dibs on Jim Hammond, that way anytime some one disagrees with me I can just say, "oh yeah, well I killed Hitler, so shut the gently caress up."

"You see how many dogs and barrels the kids have these days? It's ridiculous!"

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

All this wordiness talk and nobody busted out old Stan Lee? Where's that page scan where each of the x-men narrate in great detail totally mundane actions like walking over a ditch and opening a door?

Letting Jack Kirby draw whatever he wants is usually a great idea, but too many word balloons is sometimes not.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Somebody check your issues of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe to see Iron Man's 90's stats. I bet he was as smart as Spider-Man, who seems to have gotten dumber since all those movies about him as a teenager.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

What does flying have to do with being an underwater fish man anyway? Ridiculous!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

What's the latest on Superpro?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

prefect posted:

The missiles only fired for a while. After a few kids swallowed them (or somebody decided that kids would swallow them), the newer versions came with missiles that only popped out a half-inch when "fired".

That kid who choked on his Battlestar Galactica toy has so much to answer for if he didn't die. And I had one of those loving toys (given to me by grandparents) and it still fired the loving missile!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

redbackground posted:

Are there any Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman experts in the house, he asked, expecting the answer no.

If you're wondering whether some weird thing is really Marsten's fetish, the answer is yes.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Somebody has all those letters from old Superman comics from that woman who wanted to see Lois spanked in every issue, right? That might be the weirdest old comics thing I've ever seen, Fletcher Hanks comics not included.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Was there any crossover with those Men's Adventure magazines (aside from homoeroticism)? Adults were supposed to be the audience for those, right?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Uthor posted:

I really need to read Starman again. I really liked that issue set way in the future where he was telling kids about the history of Starman through time (I'm a sucker for those types of stories). Was that a DC One Million tie-in?

Has The Shade appeared anywhere else? He's so tied to the city in my mind.

Are they ever going to finish the Starman omnibus softcovers? They left me hanging after the second one, and the hardcovers are going for really high prices now.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Lost Girls had maybe two regular-sized issues come out in 1991 and then nothing until 2009(?) when it all came out at once.

It would have been better if it turned out like Big Numbers, of course.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

X-Men cartoon is great because it doesn't even pretend it's audience doesn't know the comics. Characters just pop up and vanish with no introduction. Black Panther just cruises through the background without anyone even acknowledging him.


The only thing better is that UPN Hulk cartoon where Ghost Rider shows up to save everyone out of nowhere and then leaves with no explanation.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


Yeah, I did. Jesus that's awful, but kind of like grabbing a Spider-Man comic at random as a kid and not knowing who Daredevil is when he does up.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Stan's introductions were the best part of that and the Iron Man cartoons. Hi true believers!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I'll always be impressed with how well Stan Lee creations always do with making their own costumes, as most of them are single men in their 20s living in the early 60s. What would Daredevil even be doing owning a sewing machine? You know he doesn't put his own buttons back on his jacket when they fall off.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

HitTheTargets posted:

Weren't comics used as a tool to educate soldiers about how to tell fine, upstanding Chinese men apart from their Japanese nemeses?

Racism as a cure for racism isn't something you see very often.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Aphrodite posted:

He's also the guy who brought back the "Cyclops eye portals" thing after it had long been forgotten.

Just think about how badly he's loving up that other universe. Like, if the red beams ever run out is he going to shoot out trucks, or a preschool?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Cyphoderus posted:

I remember reading an X-Men origin story when I was a kid – it was about Jean arriving at the X-mansion and meeting Cyclops, Angel, Beast, and Ice-Man – but it's not X-Men #1. I'm aware of the more recent origin callbacks (Season One, First Class, etc.), but this thing is older, and I think it was drawn in more of an 80's or maybe 90's style. Does anyone have any idea what book that is? I think I recall the first issue ending with a Sentinel encounter.

Was it from that 99-cent comic line? I think all of those were set in the past:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Xavier_and_the_X-Men

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Ultragonk posted:

When really they should be catering to my needs and whims :haw:

Can you think of any mutants that appeared in one issue, looked like they would appear in more and have just never appeared again?

Back when I was reading comics there was a supporting character who found out that he would become Ahab from the bad X-Men Days of Future Past future. Then he got his leg shot off and moved into Excalibur's headquarters and was never seen again.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Ultragonk posted:

Ha ha that's amazing. I'm going to read them after getting through a few X-Men comics and the Avengers and Spider-Man as well.

Also



Yeah get over yourself Scott you fire beams out of your eyes.

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