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irlZaphod posted:Moonstar's powers changed a bunch, she went from being able to show people their greatest fears, to being able to see an image of Death over people who were going to die, to just being able to create illusions based on a person's desires or fears. Then she lost her powers, obviously. Yeah that's kind of what I'm looking for. Where the changes are pretty jarring when you compare the Before and After photos. Kind of like how, again in DC, Black Hand was originally a criminal who had a book with every possible crime/contingency in it. Then he becomes a Cosmic Necromancer.
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zoux posted:I should know this but are DD's powers "genetic" or something that the toxic waste did to him? It's also due to his magical pimp Ninja training. Like it taught him how to focus his senses (according to the Frank Millar run) but even in the Waid run it's clear that his Ninja training is what makes Matt who he is.
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Apr 10, 2015 20:44
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zoux posted:Who's the smartest adult grown woman in the Marvel universe? Superia was supposed to be a Marvel female super villain genuis on par with the Leader et all. (Though her plans were a little iffy. Improve women's role in the Marvel Universe by forcefully sterilising everyone except a small group of female villains. Turning Paladin and Captain America into Women so they'd be loyal to her.) She was a part of AIM's High Council. There's also Dr. Nightshade, a female Black Panther villain who specialises in serums that turn people into Werewolves and stuff.
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Aug 6, 2015 21:19
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Aphrodite posted:The Spider-Man one says Single and then Married right after. Well after he made that deal with Mephisto, the marriage was retconned. So this sourcebook written in the 80's was effected by the time change.
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Aug 6, 2015 21:21
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Skwirl posted:Wasn't AIM headed by a woman for a while? That was Monica Rappaccini. The mother of the female Scorpion*. Fun fact, Scorpion's dad is probably Bruce Banner. (But was originally supposed to be the child of Viper and the Silver Samurai.) She is based on this classic story. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rappaccini%27s_Daughter *= Note the female Scorpion is not to be confused with Scopria. Who is the Scorpion, but female.
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Aug 6, 2015 21:36
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The original Secret Wars. Or the two Doom minis from the 2000s. Or perhaps some of the John Bryne Fantastic Four run. The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 20:16
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Skwirl posted:Tintin and the Blue Lotus is basically this, though it was published before the war, but after the start Japanese occupation. It bends over backwards to not be racist towards Chinese people, including mocking it's own Caucasian character's stereotyped ideas. But then all the Japanese characters look like their from the old Fleischer Supeman cartoons. But wasn't that partially down to the fact that one of the creators of Tintin at that time was in a relationship with a Chinese man at the time? I think I read about that a year or two ago. Like it is good to move away from racist depictions of people and stereotyping, but it could be tinged by the fact that it's because you don't want to offend your lover.
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Sep 9, 2015 10:30
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Skwirl posted:He was influenced by by a Chinese exchange student he had become friends with, but that was more along the lines of him actually bothering to do some research on his subject matter, something that wasn't true when Tintin visited the Society Union, Belgian Congo, or America. From a bit of research, it's something that has been regarded/ speculated by his fans since the 1970's. It's based on an interview he did where he aparently described a book as being a " a story about love...I mean friendship." Of course it's possible it was also based on gossip or rumour mongering. http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/2012/from-our-continental-correspondent-herge-was-gay-no-he-wasnt-who-cares/ Interestingly, another French comic creator has even written a graphic novel on this subject (which is how I think I found out about it.) http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/19/herge-and-his-chinese-communist-gay-lover/
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Sep 9, 2015 17:42
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redbackground posted:He was also a main character in Dwayne McDuffie's prestige-format She-Hulk: Ceremony, which was really really bad (not because of Wyatt, it was just a stupid story). How bad could it have been? (Looks up reviews of the series. Sees Jen getting mopey because she wants a baby. Sees her friend ask her what sort of options are available for a woman to get pregnant who has "steel hard ovaries.") Wow, that bad.
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Oct 29, 2015 16:18
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Archyduke posted:Prodigy? Synch, Alex from the Runaways... of course, these are both also minors. I'm sort of stumped coming up with any adult black men who don't have either of those things in their backstory. I want to say Night Thrasher but that might just be because I'm too ignorant about Night Thrasher to know what's happened in his backstory. Mr. Terrific? Post Crisis Mr. Terrific had one of the most hilariously disconnected origins when you compare it to how he was written. His origin is that he's a brilliant man who is going to end his life because he can't cope with the tragic death of his wife. So the Spectre shows up and tells him how the original Mr. Terrific was killed by a super villain ghost called the Spirit King, but was defeated by Mr. Terrific ghost. And this inspires Michael Holt to become a super hero. Then he shows up in JSA where he is this rational man who doesn't believe in the supernatural. Which is okay in the real world. But it just makes him look like an rear end in a top hat who was told a ghost story by a literal ghost, and the message he took away from it was "I'd look baller in a leather jacket with the words 'Fair Play' on the back."
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Dec 3, 2015 20:22
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Archyduke posted:But was he wrong??? I suppose. Except I get the feeling when he was being told that story, he wasn't actually listening do much as mentally drawing a picture of himself in his new Leather jacket.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:16
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Endless Mike posted:As a scientist, I ran a second study to check your results and it confirms that Geo-Force is terrible. The original two runs of Batman and the Outsiders are so batshit insane that they are amazing. Because they are such a terrible super team. In the opening arc, half the team (including Batman) get pistol whipped by random evil soldiers. And Geo-Force gets riddled with bullets, killed and buried in a shallow grave. Which, it turned out to be a method of powering him up. How awful is that?
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Dec 17, 2015 17:30
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On the subject of eye beams there's this great set of panels from the Flash #150. The plot is Wally West has gone back in time to Crisis on Infinite Earth's to try and help the heroes beat the Anti-Monitor in place of Barry Allen. It doesn't work and he keeps having to use time travel to get do-overs. There is one part where a load of characters like Superman and Power Girl are all blasting the Anti Monitor down with eye beams. And inexplicably one of the people doing it is Captain Marvel, who has never shown eye beam powers. So it just looks like the kid hero starts blasting the bad guy with eye beams because everyone else was doing it that day, and he just wanted to fit in.
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Dec 18, 2015 08:47
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If you count video games Spider-man and Deadpool are in the Facebook game, Avengers Alliance. One of the last Spec Ops was based on the Spider-verse. In it you had to deploy Deadpool because he looked so like Spider-man they figured he might distract the Inheritors. True story.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:56
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WickedHate posted:I love how Grifter tries being a badass Punisher clone while using a hilarious cartoon laser. A lot like the real Punisher on the Spider-Man series, come to think of it. My all time favourite thing about the 90's Spider-man series is how they did the Punisher. Up to and including the computer warning for when he picks up a gun and the "Warning: Lethal Ordinance " goes off. And I mean that un-irronically.
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Jan 3, 2016 07:15
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Ultragonk posted:What are people's views on Ultimate Fantastic Four? I'm not enjoying it as much as Spider-Man, Ultimates or X-Men but I'm not far into it I'm wondering if it picks up at all. I say keep going. The arc changes writers a few times and each writer brings a different flavour. While I didn't really like Warren Ellis ' s work, I loved Millar and Mike Carey ' s arcs.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:58
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Gavok posted:There's an Elseworlds called the Nail that's about a world where the Kents never came across Superman's rocket and he ended up being taken in by the Amish instead. I'm fairly sure that in the end of the Nail, after the day has been saved where in the epilogue, the first thing Batman does is turn himself in to the police for murdering the Joker. It says that Catwoman testified on his behalf and he's aquited, but left haunted by the experience. And honestly, that seems like it's the right result.
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Feb 25, 2016 12:21
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Alris posted:Is there a way to figure out who holds film rights to some of the more esoteric Marvel characters, or is that negotiated between studios as the situation arises? The latest terrible Fantastic Four got me thinking on who owned film rights to Ego the Living Planet. I gave up trying to figure it out when I discovered that Kang belongs with the Fantastic Four characters on Fox, on the basis that "technically Ramma Tut appeared in a FF comic first and it was later retconned that this was an alter ego of Kang." But Ronan the Accuser and the Kree (who first showed up in FF comics) were fine for Marvel.
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Apr 14, 2016 10:26
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So here's my question. Vibrinium ended up on Earth after a meteor crashed into it. And the biggest part landed in Wakanda and made them super great. And another lot landed in the Antarctic and that stuff disolves metal so it has a different name. And presumably smaller deposits landed elsewhere on the Earth. But everyone treats it like Wakanda is the only source for it. So my question is this... If it landed on Earth from space, presumably it came from SOMEWHERE*. So like shouldn't there be a planet of this stuff out in Space. Has anyone done a plot based on that? My other question is as rare as Adamantium is, how come Ultron can get enough of it whenever he needs a new body? My personal answer is he goes to another dimension like the Plane of Elemental Earth in D&D and mines more. * = Ignoring Earth X where Alex Ross said that Vibrinium is placenta to Celestial fetuses.
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One last post about Adamantium before we hopefully go back to Vibrinium. After Wolverine got his metal sucked out, he went researching the origins of it. In like Wolverine #78 the scientist said that once Adamantium is bonded to a skeleton the process turns it into Adamantium Beta which has different properties to the original metal. It never said what those properties are but I always took that as why Wolverine's claws could do things that even a sword of Adamantium couldn't.
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Jun 2, 2016 22:39
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Ghostlight posted:I was going to reply with a group including Wonder Man. The best version in my mind is pacifist Wonder Man who is an Avenger but just refuses to go out and punch bad guys. I would trade Hawkeye for Black Widow though. In todays issue the role of the Beast will be played by Mathew Mcconaughey.
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Jun 14, 2016 09:34
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Ghostlight posted:That's what I love about time displaced X-Men, man. I get older, they stay the same age. "In eternity, where there is no time, nothing can grow. Nothing can become. Nothing changes. So death created time to grow the things that it would kill... and you are reborn but into the same life that you've always been born into. I mean, how many times have we had this conversation, detectives? Well, who knows? When you can't remember your lives, you can't change your lives, and that is the terrible and the secret fate of all life. You're trapped... like a nightmare you keep waking up into. " Beasts dialogue from Hickman's New Avengers or Detective Chole from True Detective Season 1? U-Decide!
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Jun 15, 2016 11:41
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Soonmot posted:This is the first time that combination of words have been posted. And somewhere an all powerful supervillian has had all his powers switched off.
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Jul 29, 2016 11:06
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Skwirl posted:She clearly has enhanced abilities if only because she's a lot better at keeping Rick Flagg alive than Rick Flagg is, and she doesn't even really want to do that. It also makes sense why she put so many guards in the hospital/why they are so cautious around her if she has some degree of super chemical enhancement rather then "she's Crazy with a Q. Which is even more messed up then Crazy with a K level."
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Aug 12, 2016 12:42
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Madkal posted:You know I really wanted to like Azz's Joker because I liked Luthor: Man of Steel but Joker was just...too much. My favourite thing about Azz's Joker story is how it ends in the exact same way as Luthor: Man of Steel. The hero is silent the entire story. The villain goes on a long rant....and Batman/Superman says the absolute perfect putdown that just causes Joker/Luthor to completely lose all the composer that they have had the entire story. And I really liked that. I also liked the one part of the Joker story where you get a glimpse of Joker having a massive pill related suicidal break apart....and that Harley is the only one stopping him from ODing/offing himself.
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Aug 12, 2016 22:43
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Madkal posted:I got my girlfriend a copy of Angel Catbird because she is a big Margaret Atwood fan, and we got talking about famous authors who went on to write comics (even if it was briefly). Hard Sci-fi writer Richard K. Morgan wrote two Black Widow mini series.
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Sep 15, 2016 15:52
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As for my question, I remember during Mark Millar's Spider-man run where he is going through his stuff and finds a photo of his past and says "Ben Reilly. God rest his soul." And it was a nice little reminder about how some comic characters have really sucky endings and you can just list their name and say "God rest their soul." Who else are characters who met really bad endings that so far haven't been reversed. 1) Ben Reilly 2) Eric Masters on 3) Charcoal: The Burning Man. 4) Mila Donovan 5) Jack Munroe.
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Sep 15, 2016 15:57
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DigitalRaven posted:I know it was the theme of the book, but almost everyone in Strikeforce Morituri had a lovely death. Get powers to fight off aliens, but it's a death sentence to do so. I loved how the plot line in Uncanny X-Force used Strikeforce Morituri which was in the Marvel Multiverse. (Basically an arms dealer uses a mutant to look at different alternate dimensions. See's the Strikeforce Morituri universe. Decides to monetize the formula for super powers. Doesn't care that it blows up users.) Halloween Jack posted:
What was the worst part was the method of suicide. Shift turns Indigo's cybernetics to organic components. The end result wasn't "She is now no longer a cyborg but a real person." Instead it was "and now you have cast Stone to Flesh and she has a load of useless additional flesh parts inside her that don't work. She dies horribly and painfully." Apparently Judd Winnick wanted to bring her back, but never got around to it. She appeared as a bad guy just before Flashpoint as part of Superboy Prime's team of villains. She showed up in the Supergirl TV series as a straight up villain. Halloween Jack posted:
The original ending to his series was that he was going to face the big bad, ancient evil he was prophesied to die fighting and succeed! He had defied fate and won. His prize was that he was going to be able to live his life free of responsibility and live on his own terms as he wanted to. And then immediately upon starting his new life, he'd accidentally walk in front of a bus and die. Roll credits. Halloween Jack posted:AFAIK, the original Anarky ended his superhero career in juvenile detention. Oh no, it get's worse. Lonnie ends up getting the crap kicked out of him by a Robin bad guy called the General. Who beats him to such an extent that he is put in a high tech iron-lung, while the villain assumes Anarky's identity. In the end Robin free's Lonnie who was poised to be his sort of Oracle (but even more disabled.) But then Flashpoint and that never happened.
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WickedHate posted:People complain about Red Hood, but the whole "Batman politely looks the other way" thing has been going on since Katana. In fact in the original Batman and the Outsider's series there is a scene where Batman is trying to interrogate a dude. And the guy is like "But I know the Batman has a code against killing!" And Batman just says "I may have...BUT SHE DOESN'T." Then he points to Katana, and he smiles in this really creepy way that Jim Apero would do with Batman.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:54
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Up until recently, everyone assumed that Nick's words were some comment about Asguardians and how they were immortal and never faced any true danger. But after the last issue we have gotten another potential meaning. In the last issue it was revealed that Mjolnor is a super God storm that Odin defeated and imprisoned in super chunk or Uru. And that it might be it's own being. So maybe the secret is that Thor's use of Mjolnor was basically slavery and he didn't know it. It would also explain why he would go looking for the Ultimate Thor hammer, one that doesn't have a personality inside it. But thst is just speculation at this point.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:13
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Teenage Fansub posted:Lex is genuinely being a hero. He's still Lex, but he's saving Metropoliptians in his Superman suit and not necessarily scheming to kill anyone. "I could have cured cancer...if only I didn't have to keep answering the JLA emergency summons! "
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Dec 16, 2016 09:03
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Senior Woodchuck posted:And now I'm remembering the time a bad guy chomped on Multiple Man's hand, and Madrox created a dupe inside him, causing his body to explode. I think that was from Fatal Attractions. The bad guy was called Melencolly and she was this invulnerable monster who was just tearing through Madrox's dupes. She was in the process of gouging out his eyes when he pulled the move of creating a Dupe inside her to kill her. Both Madrox and the Dupe felt really bad about it.
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I remember a Superman issue featuring Superboy from about 10+ years ago. It was after Superboy found out Lex Luthor was his dad and that he had implanted mind control words into his head. Basically Superboy goes through this mopey phase where he ponders if he is human or even real at all or just a flesh and blood machine. Now this in and of itself is an interesting story thread. It was resolved when Superman tells Kon that he has soul vision, and that he can see Kon's soul. So he's totally a real boy. This level of plot contrivence wasn't what annoyed me. More that instead of some hero with soul or magic based powers like Raven or Zauriel or Zantana doing it, they just decided to give Superman soul vision.
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Feb 25, 2017 15:32
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Both Marvel and DC have Dracula and Frankenstein's monster. They are different in a number of ways.
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Mar 13, 2017 12:06
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Flight Bisque posted:So Communism was just a red herring? "I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!"
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Mar 21, 2017 22:43
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Skwirl posted:Sorry for the double post, but I would seriously recommend getting Marvel Unlimited, there are way fewer gaps then there used to be and I'm pretty sure they have every single issue of the big ones like Avengers, Spider-Man, Captain America, Uncanny X-Men and Fantastic Four. If you do go with Marvel Unlimited check for promo codes. They regularly do ones for free months and they can be found through Google. I think Marches one is Rand or somehow connected to Iron Fist being on Netflix.
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Mar 31, 2017 12:05
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All this talk about the Black Knight and his character arc here and it's great to compare it with the chat over in the Movie thread which is about why people like Cable so much as a character. Cable gets stories. He gets agency. But he gets goals. Even if it's just "I have to stop Apocalypse and change the future. " or "Now that Apocalypse is dead what do I do with my life?" To "better raise the next mutant Messiah. " or "I should really stop the Red Skull desecration of Charles Xaiver brain." Where as Black Knight really hurts to find some purpose, it just comes naturally with Cable. It's fascinating really.
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Apr 5, 2017 06:51
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It's a common enough insult in Ireland but often it's said by women to women. I think it's about how cows are large, thick, stubborn creatures. So sort of fat shaming thing.
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Apr 8, 2017 15:42
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ImpAtom posted:They recently retconned it so that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are no longer Magneto's kids The truly dumbest part about the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver retcon is in Axis it makes a big deal about how Magneto isn't their father. (Because evil Scarlet Witch tries using a spell on their bloodline and it doesn't effect Magneto. So "lol he can't be their dad.") Then the first arc of Uncanney Avengers is about the unity team fighting the High Evolutionary and he's Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's dad. And at the end it's revealed he isn't their parents. Only the Vision knows who their parents were and it was too shocking for him to tell anyone. Then he gets blown up so many times that even he has probably forgotten it.
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Honestly I think the ret-ret-con of Sam Wilson from Snap Wilson was the worse retcon. Like they retcon Sam Wilson from being a guy who just so happens to be on an island full of Jack Kirby villains to a drug smuggler trying to help to being a criminal that the Red Skull brainwashed into being a guy who Cap would want to make into his sidekick and then would turn around and use him as a sleeper weapon against Cap is a fine story. Since it ends in Sam Wilson learning the truth and deciding that while he made a lot of mistakes in his past, he is more than anything he had done and all his heroism was genuine. Plus it has scenes where he yells at people that his name is Snap Wilson, ya dig! Then Rick Remender came along and said "no, all that Snap Wilson stuff was the sort of background that could only be created by
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