Gavok posted:

Yeah. The game mentions that Robin killed Nightwing at some point without going into details. The comic filled in the blanks.

Nightwing did come back as the new Deadman though, if that counts.

Dr. Hurt posted:

He died in a comic tie-in to a fighting game where the world goes to poo poo because Superman becomes dictator of the world. He's staying dead because it is its own little thing that isn't connected to the general DC Universe.

Uthor posted:

Lots of comics frequently reset to new #1's. This will usually happen if a new creative team takes over or if there is a good meta-reason to renumber (all the new #1's after the universe ending Secret Wars, Thor getting new #1's after major changes to the story's status quo, etc). New readers have an easier time starting with #1's and it's easier to sell collections (even if it can get confusing over time).

Uthor posted:

It's been scheduled to be over, but ran into delays (I think?), so new #1's are coming out, but there's a few issues left before Secret Wars wraps up. So, it's confusing at the moment.

Dr. Hurt posted:

There are tie-ins but those are mostly off in their own little parts of Battleworld. Essentially Dr. Doom is ruling over a patchwork world of all sorts of different realities so the tie-in issues all focus on weird little worlds like Cowboy Avengers or Law and Thorder. They aren't "necessary" to the plot, but some of them do require you reading Secret Wars to understand what is going on, from what I've seen.

Lightning Lord posted:

Are you asking about Mattie Franklin because you're reading Alias because of Jessica Jones?

Uthor posted:

If you have a tablet, it's currently $0.99 an issue on comiXology.

Soonmot posted:

Also, Marvel Unlimited is about ten bux a month and has all modern comics up to six months ago, along with a good portion of classic comics.

Travis343 posted:

Nah as evidenced by their trade paperback division DC doesn't like to make money. They apparently expect to be held aloft by releasing increasingly opulent anniversary collections of Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, and Killing Joke every five years or so.

ImpAtom posted:

The most successful heroes in general are Spider-Man and Batman respectively.

Endless Mike posted:

Marvel has been pretty consistently outselling DC for awhile now and it's not even really close. To give you an idea, for October, Marvel had a 44% dollar share, while DC had 22% (rounding up). September was closer at 33/26 and August was 37/26.

Teenage Fansub posted:

Having your favorite comics on the knife's edge of cancellation is an exciting way to live!

Lightning Lord posted:

Are you asking about Mattie Franklin because you're reading Alias because of Jessica Jones?

Skwirl posted:

Daredevil, every woman he's ever loved.

Madkal posted:

Yep, and then brutally killed later on. Kind of like his other girlfriends.

prefect posted:

I think Ron Marz did a reasonably good job explaining it to Gail Simone:

"""
I think the obvious point here is that female characters, in general, have a rougher time of it. I think the knee-jerk reaction is they're more "abused," though I'm not sure that's fully the case. Male heroes go through all sorts of trials and tragedies, and generally triumph over them in the end. However, you could certainly make a list of male heroes (Captain Mar-Vell, Jason Todd, Bucky, various former GLs, Barry Allen, etc.) who have wound up dead or depowered. To me the real difference is less male-female than main character-supporting character. In most cases, main characters, "title" characters who support their own books, are male. Historically, male characters have been able to support their own books sales-wise, while female characters have not. I'm not sure this is the case anymore, but I suspect the mindset still prevails to a certain extent. So male characters who support their own individual titles remain somewhat immune to the kind of severe and permanent character changes you're sighting. It has more to do with sales figures than sex bias. So if "main" characters, including Wonder Woman, are generally sacrosanct, the supporting characters are the ones who suffer the more permanent and shattering tragedies. And a lot of supporting characters are female. Take Gwen Stacy, for example (even though it's a example more than two decades old). Her death was a tragedy, obviously, but it also served as a tragedy in Spider-Man's life; a case of a supporting character's death being used to adversely effect the life of the main character. Since most main characters are male, a way of introducing tragedy into that character's life is to have something adverse happen to a woman in his life. To my mind, as a writer you want to be able to introduce some sort of change or drama to your characters. You can kill off or otherwise severely change a supporting character. You just can't do so with a main character, in most cases, and certainly never without the blessing of the Powers That Be.
"""
Marv Wolfman said something similar, and there is other insight to be had: http://lby3.com/wir/creators.html

(Hey, this is related to the thread title, even! )

Lurdiak posted:

Frank Miller, who have serious hangups that cannot be blamed on their age.

zoux posted:

Nah they just stopped using them for some reason.

Also r/comicbooks has a pretty good list of "what to read, I know it helped me when I first got MU, because their library is daunting.

Dr. Hurt posted:

Every time a writer gets their hands on X-Men they create new mutants that are very very important to them. These mutants never seem to survive the switch to a new writer because they have their own very special mutants they want to write about.

Rhyno posted:

Up to a point. There was the mandate recently that Bendis bitched about, no more new mutants as Fox automatically got the rights to use them. Even Goldballs.

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

A writer wants to tell the story that they want to tell - the story that they're enthusiastic about. It turns out that it can be harder to do that when you're dealing with characters that have established histories and personalities and extant plot threads that may not actually line up with that story they're enthusiastic about.

Phylodox posted:

Comics used to rely a lot more on exposition. They read more like radio plays than the graphic medium they were. Part of it, I think, had to do with the habits of the writers, and part of it the limitations of printing technology at the time. Detailed, complicated actions were harder to depict, so they would be described.

Phylodox posted:

You should read some of the old Fantastic Four comics.

Jack Gladney posted:

Jack Gladney posted:

There may be a spanking or two in there, honestly. I don't think they meet a black man until the 70s.

ImpAtom posted:

Uthor posted:

Even Professor X is in love with her.

Skwirl posted:

That's from John Byrne's run I believe, she's infected with something that makes her hate everything she loves, so Reed is trying to make her hate him so she'll love him.

Comics.

bobkatt013 posted:

You mean like when they met Black Panther in issue 52 in 1966

CapnAndy posted:

No, he annuled the marriage after Namor flooded Wakanda while Namor was high on Phoenix juice.

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Namor was an X-Man at the time, and the Wakandan people were thus pretty mad at mutants so their King being married to one was not popular.

Aphrodite posted:

Sue and Reed seem to do mostly fine.

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

I suspect that most of the people who think that having a character be married makes for less drama have never actually been married.

redbackground posted:

Sue and Ralph Dibny were doing Just Fine until DC editorial had their way with them.

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In 2004, she became a flashpoint for discussions of women in comics when a highly controversial storyline was published in which she is murdered and revealed to have been raped in the past

bobkatt013 posted:

Yes and his name is Doom

Opopanax posted:

There's also Acts of Vengeance where they all traded

KittyEmpress posted:

Drugs don't work on wolverine, his body metabolizes everything from alcohol to hard drugs in seconds. This is also why nowadays [or at least pre death] he could drink for hours and be sober.

prefect posted:

I could swear I saw a couple of pages posted about just that thing in one of the panel-posting threads.

Boy, that's a helpful piece of information I just posted.

Senor Candle posted:

That was actually a big plot point in the current Deadpool series.

bobkatt013 posted:

Read the last volume of Deadpool