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bobkatt013 posted:Byrne is a crazy person so it's not shocking that he has beef with everyone. Shooter has just been doing comics for too long. He started when he was 14. Also remember this is right around the time Claremont was cleaning up Shooter's Ms Marvel rape story. I'd say there's a decent chance the two have a connection.
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Metal Loaf posted:I think Shooter's given mixed signals on gay characters. On the one hand, he's talked about how he always assumed Element Lad was gay when he was writing the Legion and one of his unrealised plans for a Valiant book was the main character realising that he's gay and subsequently coming out, both of which are fairly neutral examples. He did have a gay character while at Valiant, that dude who palled around with X-O and lost his hand. And of course was 100% untrustworthy, betraying Aric and giving the X-O to some thugs. We couldn't have a positive gay character in the I think the point is that Shooter was never that great a human being, and deserves all the poo poo he got before and gets now.
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Random Stranger posted:If he was gay I'm 90% sure that didn't get dropped into his character until after Shooter had been forced out of Valiant (which was actually relatively early in the X-O run at issue 9). In the early issues he was presented as a generic rear end in a top hat businessman and I don't recall anything about his sexuality. I could be misremembering, but I think it got brought up pre-Unity. That's the only X-O I read of the original series. FAKE EDIT: Found it, issue #5 "Mmm, You're one good looking man Aric. If you were gay, you'd be perfect." Of course, this is also the issue that he starts betraying Aric. It's only a single line in there, but it fit with everything else that happened with him (i.e. being drawn a bit feminine, some of his vocab choices being a bit stereotypically gay) to create the standard gay betrayer.
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Random Stranger posted:If it was that small of a moment then that would be why I completely forgot about it. Not that I want to use my brain for storing a lot of details about Valiant comics. Read the issues recently (part of a supposedly complete old Valiant collection that I got from a buddy) while I was going over all the pre-Unity stuff. Honestly, it's the only thing that stuck in my craw about those issues, but I've got a bone to pick with the way LGBT people have been portrayed in comics up until very recently.
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