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Peter was a smug rear end who acted like he was running the game when he did next to nothing, screwed up his own game, and then whined about how unworthy everyone left was to beat him and how there were only a handful of BB players in history who compared to him. Also when they were all given terrible tasks to do for the good of the house his was to eat a salad. And he acted like it was the worst thing to happen to anyone in history. Also he white knighted the poo poo out of Aaryn the racist bitch. Oh, I forgot that he was the biggest sore loser in history and organized an unbelievably petty "anyone but Jillian" jury house campaign that included "we didn't want Emmit to win because Jillian would want that, even though he's a great guy and a great player". STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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BGrifter posted:I'm convinced we're polar opposites in every way regarding Survivor and Big Brother STAC. I can't think of a single thing you've ever posted I've agreed with. You're a perfect antagonist to make me think about these shows in greater detail. Well this is the first thing we 100% agree on. I'm right there with you. We seem to just like and hate the exact opposite things in every way when it comes to these shows. But I'm totally cool with you, man. It would suck to be in an echo chamber where we all had the exact same opinions. You've opened my eyes or changed my opinion on a few things. And honestly, I don't mean to be an rear end in a top hat about Peter's food thing. You're right, it might very well be a psychological thing and I don't mean to make fun or lessen that if it is. It's just the absurdity of it especially in that context. I'm sure if he was just a more likable guy in general I wouldn't have found it so annoying but since he was so smug and judgmental about people and their behavior that when he does something that seems that absurd it just really annoyed me. But I too hope that if its a real thing he gets help because that's sad and presumably super unhealthy. He's still one of my least favorite BB houseguests of all time though.
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The problem is I don't think it was Talia and people who weren't playing at all which hurt Peter the most. Sure, I agree that his inability to play those people was a big problem. But bigger than that I think he was arrogant and saw his game as better than everyone else's, which made him underestimate his entire competition field and set up the problems he faced. And his petty dislike of Jillian seems a good example of it since he's so adamant that winning comps means nothing and she played a bad game. Look, I get it. Peter plays the Dr. Will/Dan game that you don't win unless you have to and you get others to do your dirty work. And that game plan is fine if it works. It worked for Andy in BBUS last season. But Jillian won a lot and used her wins to broker deals and improve her position. That's a valid game play and it works too. But Peter didn't seem willing or able to see that. He thought he and Alex had it all in the bag because their game was inherently superior and I think that's what killed him. And yeah, maybe you're right. This is a good example of me taking something from you because I could see how Peter playing a second time could be interesting to see if he learned anything and could round out his game. Unfortunately I just don't want to WATCH him do it. You know what I mean? And for what its worth I don't think I'd ever say Rob Cesternino had limited social skills. In fact I thought he played a pretty masterful social game through the first half of the game. The problem is when he developed that clique of cool kids, pissed everyone else off, and then betrayed the clique. I guess maybe you could say that was a case of the nerd being sucked into the allure of the cool kids/hot girls club but really I just think he overplayed his strategic game and burned his social game in the process. Which is a shame because he was obviously masterful with the strategic side and solid socially. He's a guy I really would have wanted to see get a fair second chance (not the brief All Stars one) to see if he could learn to not be quite as devious. Unfortunately he was such a devious and smart player in the Amazon that Boston Rob and the All Stars didn't want to take their chances. And, you know, while I credit Cochran for improving his social game to keep himself plugged in and safe I just can never get behind the journey of that win because I think so much of it was the Favorites dominating the first stage of the game, Phil stifling play in the second, and then him just keeping his head low while the big guns picked each other off. Which deserves some credit for sure, but just wasn't as much fun or impressive for my personal watching tastes. But you know, that's Survivor and this is Big Brother Canada so sorry for the digression. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Yeah, I think a Rob is just generally too generous and goes a bit too far out of his way to defend players. I also think he's got a soft spot for the "socially awkward nerd" because he sees (or saw) himself as one. But really, his Amazon game or even his show never seem to show that socially awkward nerd he sees himself as. And even if he is/was a socially awkward nerd that's where the similarities begin and end with a lot of these guys like Peter Brown and their games. Agreed, Capt, it comes down to "If you're that good then you don't have to tell everyone, they just know." The great players don't have to scream it from the roofs because we know it from watching them. The people screaming about how good they are and trying to prop themselves up? Usually that's a lot of hot air. And when they walk in the door doing it? You better be drat impressive because you're writing a check your rear end is going to have a hard time cashing. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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thexerox123 posted:I was wondering why I remembered him as being such a good player while I was watching season 2, but it's definitely because I was remembering S7 Will. I haven't watched S2 in years but my memory says he played a really terrible game through the first part, as all of Chilltown did. But once Shannon and Boogie were gone he really did a pretty masterful job of ducking out trouble and manipulating people. It was definitely less "puppet master" and more "rat evading capture" but it was pretty good. And sure, he got lucky at times but find me a winner who didn't. What separates the good players from the bad players are how they take advantage of the good luck and recover from the bad. But S7 is definitely what makes the legend of him, I think. Being able to control the game from start to near finish despite having the biggest target on his back? But even there you could assign luck. Kaysar's confounding decision to give Chilltown a pass and James' weird obsession with Chicken George opened the door to everything. Really just the bizarre gameplay of S6 in general. But Chilltown made the most of it, played them well, and managed to set up plays for themselves down the line. That's what good players do.
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Just caught up on this. Ika's kind of a bitch in general so she was the perfect person to have that letter decision. Yeah, no one could have reasonably asked her to sacrifice $5000 for the people who had screwed her over and were going to send her packing but only Ika would do it cackling and burning some of their secrets. Credit to Sarah for actually owning this and admitting she did the right thing and didn't say anything that was untrue. Sarah's easily the one who was most hurt by those letters with her missing her kids but she's also way more of a reasonable adult than the Dude Bros. Kenny's a smart guy and is playing this extremely well but you can tell what a massive ego he has. I don't know if he can keep that under control. I think there's a real chance he goes the way of Matt Hoffman with the Brigade. He's playing the house and they know it, so far everyone's just too scared to go after him. Stuff like the showmance with Sabrina and that crying thing with Albie just seem unnecessarily manipulative. On a side note I totally knew he'd be BGrifter's favorite.  And I'm sure BGrifter knows I'm growing to love Adel. He comes off like an idiot but he seems to really get the house dynamics and how to play this game. Too bad everyone not in Kenny/Sabrina's pocket is an idiot afraid to make a big move. I really hate when the lambs line up for slaughter like that. I don't think Adel's going to last long enough to be able to do anything and most everyone seems clueless or resigned to letting Kenny's crew fly clear but at least he's got a free week thanks to the Canada HOH. I wonder who will go up. I have to assume Sabrina since alternates between smug and emotional wreck but I don't know who else. I assume Canada is enjoying Kenny but Andrew's an rear end in a top hat so I could see him up. I wonder if Sarah could see herself up there given her screwing over the women/Outsiders the other week. Its definitely a cool idea that helps to maybe break up this stranglehold the First Five have over this house. I'm not sure anything short of an Adel or maybe Heather HOH would have done that. Maybe Neda? I'm enjoying it. Kenny. Sabrina, and the First Five are playing a hell of game and even if I don't love them if they manage to Brigade this throw they deserve the win. There's a lot of fun and likable characters. BBCan's challenges remain fun, especially that Allison/John drinking one. That alone was enough reason to justify Canada putting her in the house over the drag queen, which shocked the hell out of me too.
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I was poking around Survivor Sucks and Jokers for the first time with this and from those it looks like the First Five are the least popular with Sabrina, Andrew, and Kenny in the lead. I don't know how much that holds up with the general voting audience but it seemed to hold with the last US season so maybe it something. But even without reading the web or watching feeds I already thought Sabrina and Andrew are safe bets just based on tv edits. It sounds like they're worse on the feeds. I saw some clip of Adel calling the bro dudes "faggots" and I'm reading that the bro dudes say a lot of lovely stuff. That sucks but it doesn't seem like its nearly as bad as the US cast was. It just seems more like general bad poo poo young people say when they forget people are listening. I won't defend it but it doesn't sound like the pointed and rampant racism and homophobia on display last summer. BGrifter posted:. Personally I think he's a bit of a spaz, but he should be able to stick around a while if he can just chill out and not draw attention to himself.
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I'd put Adel's thing as lower than Jeff's. Jeff clearly has pretty homophobic beliefs and opinions with his "gay people shouldn't be teachers thing". Adel's comment seemed more like the careless use of the word that too many people do. He wasn't actually targeting a gay person or speaking about gay people (he doesn't know Kenny is gay after all), he just was saying a lovely thing he probably says too much. That sucks and its homophobic but its a different, non malicious kind. Which is actually also kind of how I took a lot of GM's stuff last summer (although she was doing constantly so that makes it different, she also got a lot worse at times). And I actually disliked Paul and Ika too. Ika's a rude rear end who totally played it safe her HOH and then gave Rachelle grief for doing the same. And Paul was a god damned mess who called someone a racist (over and over) as some kind of bizarre strategy. Its hard not to dislike them. But loyalty is loyalty and I get why Adel was friends with them (because they were all outcasted) so it endeared me to him. I tend to pick my favorites emotionally or by who I have fun with. The only other notable things that I've had fun with were the Jon/Allison drunken challenge and Rachelle's HOH win (before she blew it). Jon's a favorite too but he and Allison seem to keeping too close to the First Five and I don't expect Jon to last long if they don't get taken down.
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I never liked Ian. The few times I've heard him on RHAP I've liked him less. I don't listen often and I often base it on the guest but when I see Ian is on that's an absolute non-listen. I was just listening to one with Judd but I couldn't get through it because Judd is just... Judd. I'm watching some videos of feeds on Youtube and Sabrina really seems like a cross between Amanda and Andy from last summer. She's in everyone's business like Andy and ratting on everyone but she's nothing but walking drama. She just stirs poo poo and freaks out and tries to intimidate people in every video. I wish the feeds weren't done because I'd love to see how she reacted to being nominated (I assume). So is there a way for an American to watch the show live? If not how fast does Slice put the episodes up on their site? STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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I wouldn't be shocked. I get why they voted for him at the time. He was the nice little nerd who overcame social anxiety and weird quirks and he was going against the devious backstabbing former winner who screwed over most of them personally. But then I imagine some of them got distanced from the raw emotions, watched the show, and recognized what a crazy good game Dan played and what a kind of spineless, opportunistic game Ian played. So I imagine at least one or two of them might have changed their tune after all was said and done.
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Turn on the live feeds for the first time. Sabrina is yelling and complaining. Turn them off.Capt. Supermarket posted:I hate that they switched the format since BB11 where the jury questioning is done live during the finale. It basically guarantees that the jury has made up their minds going in and that it makes no difference what the F2 says. Ian's jury speech was one of the worst, and at the very least the most delusional, that I've ever heard. Then he went on to absolutely destroy Dan in the vote.
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Really? Why would Jon use the POV on either of them? He's not in the First Five, doesn't seem overly close to either, and he's generally struck me as fairly astute to the house dynamics. The few things I've seen suggested to me he flat out dislikes Andrew/Kenny and knows Sabrina is a poo poo stirrer/rat. But yeah, I'd guess Kenny or Sarah as #3. Probably Kenny since Sarah probably gained points by not freaking out about the Ika letter thing while Kenny was a big douche. Edit: I'm watching random stuff from the feed tonight and I get the sense the First Five is mostly exposed. I caught something where Jon is in a long conversation with Sarah where Sarah is trying to reassure their alliance (with Arlie too) while also trying to make him feel better about Kenny who he doesn't trust. Its good game play by Sarah but as soon as they're done Jon bumps into Heather and says "One of us need to win HOH. You, me, Adele, Arlie, or Neda." Arlie seems to be the only one protected. It seems like the house is fairly evenly divided with Kenny, Andrew, Allison, Sarah, and Rachelle on one side and Adele, Jon, Heather, and Neda on the other with Arlie coasting between the two of them. Sarah's trying to keep her doors open but it sounds like Jon doesn't really trust her. And Sabrina is trying to be good with everyone but I don't think anyone trusts her besides Rachelle, not even the First Five. And Rachelle just seems like an idiot. Actually, watching/reading a little more it sounds like people are sniffing out Arlie too. Adele sounds like he flat out called the First Five including Arlie. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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Yeah, I've been catching up and Adel and Jon both directly call out the First Five. They planned to confront Arlie about it today. His whole game seems to be falling apart with Kenny questioning him last night. Definitely agree Kenny could outlast him. I actually think Sarah could too. I think they're less scared of Kenny because he seems to have played a bad social game and hasn't really built any relationships outside of the First Five. Arlie and especially Sarah are doing a much better job with that but people are catching on and seem like they realize that they could win this way. Sabrina's game is hosed too and she's scrambling like crazy playing damage control, but no one seems to be buying it. Even the First Five keep talking about how everything she says is in some way a lie. She seems to think she's been nominated either because she's close to Andrew and "Canada wants to see her separated from him" or because she thinks a fight she had with Ika was badly edited (it actually wasn't on TV because it was all a load of bullshit in Sabrina's head). But deep down she clearly knows its because she's a backstabbing liar because she's been running around trying to convince everyone she isn't. Big Brother apparently had to call out one of her lies on the PA so that seems like its shaken her bad. OnlineBigBrother is a great site. They have youtube clips of all the relevant stuff so I don't have to lose myself in the drat feeds this time. I hope. I got kind of obsessed last summer and was debating skipping them this summer.
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Yeah, he's been distancing himself from Andrew and was scrambling hard yesterday trying to figure out where Arlie and Jon stood. I think he was relying pretty heavily on the First Five and the noms/POV shocked him into realizing he was playing lazily. But after some recon I think he realized Sarah's been playing the best game in the house so it makes sense to get even closer to her. Granted, I don't know if that's why he came out but the timing is suspicious and he's obviously not above using his sexuality for the game. Edit: Oh, I guess he's saying he got freaked out by the fan vote and worried how people were seeing his lie. I think you might have burned that bridge, man. I don't know if its cool or scummy to pretend you're straight and flirt with a chick to win a game but I'm pretty sure its sleazy to do a 180 on it so you don't get screwed by fans who don't like what you're doing. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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Holy poo poo, you guys. You have to watch Sabrina on the feeds. She puts BB15 Amanda to shame. Not only is she an emotional wreck. an arrogant bully, and delusional liar but she basically sounds like a cult leader when she talks to Rachelle or some others. Watch Sabrina get into a fight with Ika and then spin it into such a gaint ball of lies, exaggerations, and bullshit that Big Brother has to go over the PA to tell everyone she's full of poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsBTh8-j7MM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIn_aHZ6Q3s Watch Sabrina explain why the Big Brother house is so hard for her because she's so used to being the center of the universe and loved by everyone and in control of all things and that's why Canada could never hate her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyReX9xr6_4 Watch Sabrina brainwash Rachelle into feeling good and loved about being manipulated and lied to. Because she loves her and did it all for her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnhHVUasMQ Watch Ika sum up the whirling ball of insanity that is Sabrina. 
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I'm sorry for triple posting but the feeds are worth turning on at this moment as the house is in total chaos. - Andrew finally decided to start campaigning after Sarah told him Sabrina has been. Kenny, Alison, and Sarah are with him, they think they have Arlie, and they're trying to get Jon/Neda. - Jon agreed but then told Sabrina and Rachelle that Kenny was campaigning against her, but the idiots didn't believe him. Adel also told them and they dreamed up a big conspiracy about Jon trying to turn the whole house on its head. - Arlie then told Sabrina that its true and Kenny and Sarah are against her which now has Sabrina spinning and Rachelle completely confused. Kenny is running around the house looking to do damage control. - Meanwhile Sarah is clueless to much of this chaos and spent forever trying to turn Neda and Jon, which just proved to both of them how full of poo poo she is killing a lot of her game. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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The absolute perfect result. I did a fist pump when the feeds came on and I realized she was HOH. Now all the people who treated her like dog poo poo for a month and think she's a useless moron need to kiss her rear end to stay off the block. Seriously. Sabrina, Kenny, Allison, Rachelle, and even Sarah say the nastiest, shittiest things about her and treat her with absolutely no respect. Its going to be amazing watching them do a 180 and then whining about it in private. I'm guessing Kenny and Sabrina go up. Heather's side of the house all clearly targeted Kenny as the biggest threat and Heather seems smarter and savvier than to just be petty and target the people who were the meanest to her. But putting up Sabrina covers that too and it pits Sabrina/Rachelle against Kenny/Sarah. That's a perfect play, IMO. And this also saves Adel's rear end because now he doesn't have to come clean on his secret power. He was trapped in a lie that he could pull someone off the block and put someone up even if they lost HOH. Now he gets to play on his lie that his power runs out in 3 weeks. He was scared shitless that it would get exposed and he'd lose his allies. edit: Late night Sabrina had an epiphany while talking game with Alison. If Kenny goes up against Rachelle she becomes the swing vote and has to betray one of her friends. After trying to scheme up a dozen scenarios to get her out of this including offering herself up as a pawn against Kenny she finally makes a bold move and reveals the First Five to Alison by name. The goal here is to convince Alison that she's on the bottom of the totem pole and should form a new alliance with Sabrina and Rachelle. Alison seems intrigued. And a little confused. She's not very good at this game. Although to her credit she's milking Sabrina for every piece of information she has. Considering she was clueless enough to tell Heather to put up Jon a couple of hours ago, she could really use this information dump. Sabrina's spilling every secret she knows including that the stuff Alison has been holding against Jon were all lies spread by the First Five. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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As far as I can tell the Heather hate is just all Sabrina lies. Sabrina's entire game has been to spread gossip and lies and ostracize people and Heather was just one of her first targets before the house figured Sabrina out. Plus the First Five just can't stand it when someone other than them plays the game. You saw that with the POV thing this week where Andrew and Kenny cursed Heather out for not choosing Kenny even though they never once gave a single reason why it would make sense for Heather to play for Andrew. They just can't see that anyone other than themselves has a right to their own game. Heather have a nice little speech to Jon, Neda, and Adel last night where she said above everything else she wants them to know that they were here friends when no one else would be and that means everything to her and she is with them because of it. That's what the rest of the house doesn't get as Kenny has already plotted out to threaten Heather and Rachelle and Allison are acting like her best friends. Last week the First Five rationalized Canada putting them up as them wanting to shake up the game but this week its purely that the bad way the First Five and Friends have treated people is coming home to roost.
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The whole house is on slop and cold showers because Rachelle ate something despite being on slop. Heather read her the riot act about how she knows Rachelle made a mistake but people are still going to be mad so she should deal with it since its her fault. Earlier today Sabrina told Rachelle that if she goes up against Kenny than Sabrina will be sending Rachelle home because she "has to" because of the First Five. And Sabrina wouldn't let Rachelle be sad about this because she had to feel bad about what a terrible position Sabrina was in. And Sabrina did this while they had to talk as sock puppets of other houseguests. Which just confused Rachelle more than usual. Its been a bad day for poor, stupid Rachelle. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Heather has informed Kenny that he will be nominated, said its a game move, and says she wanted to at least give him the respect of telling him and letting him play in the POV. Kenny took it surprisingly well. Heather took a chance to mention the Gremlins threw him and Sarah under the bus. Kenny once again showed his great game prowess by trashing Heather's friends and offering Heather "two weeks, if I can." She also informed Alison she will be the pawn because (a) people were pushing for it and they looked at her sideways when she tried to protect Alison, (b) she thinks Alison has the best chance of winning the POV against Kenny, and (c) she can't have Alison win POV and take down Kenny. She promised if she or any of her allies wins POV they'll take Alison down (Jon, Adel, and Arlie have all agreed). Alison took it badly and was hurt to find out all her allies threw her under the bus. Heather also told Rachelle she's going up. Just to gently caress with her for getting them all punished and ruining her HOH. Heather is cool. Both Alison and Rachelle know that the First Five exist and that they are expendable to them and yet neither said a word about it to Heather or pushed for Sarah to go up. Go figure. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Its amazing how much I disagree with you on that. The First Five are terrible, obnoxious, pompous, assholes who talk down about everyone including each other. They think they're so much better than everyone else. Kenny talked about pissing on Jon and Neda's faces tonight. Sabrina is literally incapable of not making everything about her. Sarah lost her mind the last day over her precious Kenny going up. They're entitled, mean people who shunned (their own words) and verbally abused the others for a month and lose their poo poo whenever anyone plays for themselves. Andrew was their massive rear end in a top hat mascot. The "Outsiders" are goofy and enjoying the tables being turned but that's coming after weeks of having to eat poo poo from these assholes. Seriously, the First Five are the Canadian Nerd Herd. They think everything is rigged against them. Heather didn't win that HOH. Adel and Ika were rigged those prizes. The fans only nominated them because they wanted drama, there's no way they could dislike them. They whine about everything and think they're better than everyone else. I almost made the comparison last week since the rationalization they were making about Canada's nominations were hilarious. But don't worry, this isn't shaping out like US S6. I'd compare it more to S5(?) where a group united against the rear end in a top hat Horsemen who had a short run of power that went to their head, but as soon as they were no more everyone started doing their own thing. Sarah is actually very well insulated with good relationships with Arlie and Jon. Arlie is playing his own game and he and Sarah plan to subvert Neda soon so they can lock in Jon. Neda and Jon are playing their own game and plan to subvert Adel and Arlie soon. Adel has been lying to his allies for weeks about his power and no one even thinks he still has it. Neda and Heather just clued into how safe and dangerous Sarah is. And Sabrina just seemed to decide to lead her Gremlins against Sarah after learning how hard Kenny and Sarah have been working against her the last week. So there's shaping up to be a lot of drama and mixing and matching as things go on. Kenny's elimination should open the game up a bit since the biggest reason for this "us vs them" divide has been the very abrasive, "do as we say" play of him, Andrew, and Sabrina. But the First Five was a joke that fell apart at the first sign of trouble and if Kenny goes this week then "them" should die and the "us" of the makeshift "Outsiders"/Plan B alliance is pretty flimsy and ready to pop. Especially if Sabrina follows in the double elimination (and unless her or her Gremlins win I think the whole house will just unite behind getting Sabrina out in 60 minutes to avoid having to deal with her for a full week). STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Yeah, there's that same "How could America/Canada hate us? We're wonderful people. They can't like those freaks and bitches over there. Now let's spend 20 minutes saying nasty things and wonder why anyone would dislike us." thing going on.
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Adele is an interesting player. Yeah, he owes some of his success to pandering to the audience but he's also got some game you mostly just see on the feeds. He milked that secret power (which really wasn't that powerful) into saving his game by lying about what it was and confusing the house on what he could and couldn't do. It was actually interesting to watch on the feeds because he painted himself into a corner with it and said to the cameras that he knew he was screwed if it got exposed. But he didn't and he managed to turn a very small power into a couple of weeks of safety, a new alliance, and a power now no one even suspects he has because he told them it runs out in three weeks. That could well save his game in the coming weeks. He's also a really good social player because everyone in that house likes him and he's shown his loyalty to people so many times they really trust him on a basic level. I even heard Arlie and Sarah saying how much they love the guy yesterday and Sarah hates everyone. The only people who really dislike him are Kenny and Sabrina and they're just miserable human beings who hate everyone. But at the same time his chaotic play and lies skeev out Neda and Jon so they don't actually trust him and have talked about targeting him in a week or two. He's a flawed but very interesting player. Kenny on the flip side is a terrible player with almost no tricks in his bag and its funny to imagine him "mopping the floor" with the house. I can't imagine a scenario where Kenny could win, he's played such a bad game. He has almost no relationships in the house and has pissed off just about everyone. Arlie had a great breakdown of how bad his game was yesterday that I think will make the show. He pointed out that Kenny and Andrew got so high on their power and how better than everyone else they thought they were they just stopped playing. Jon was with them and Arlie early on and Arlie told them repeatedly that Jon was drifting and they should hold some fake meetings to keep him close but they couldn't even bother to do that which is why Jon is so dead set against Kenny and didn't even consider using the POV on Andrew. He was telling this all to Sarah to make her feel better about him going home since she loves him and was freaking out, but even she eventually admitted that Kenny had been basically sabotaging her game with how bad he was playing his and that he deserved to be in the place he's in. I'm sorry but Kenny is a joke of a player and a pretty lovely person on top of that. He should thank the BBCan producers because he's gotten a very generous edit. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Trust me, if you watched any of the feeds you'd want Kenny to die in the fire first. He's just a miserable, pathetic person. He whines and bitches all day. He calls all the women bitches and and the men pussies. He talks about pissing in Jon's face and beating him up. He gets outraged when people play the game or lie to him when he does it all the time. He's legitimately angry that people aren't mourning him and that the other people go off and have fun by themselves. He's just terrible to watch. Even most of his allies can barely seem to stand him. I'm not going to get into defending the cast otherwise because I know we just have opposite taste but I think there's quite a few likable and good game players in there. Even a couple of people I really don't like at all personality wise like Arlie and Sarah are pretty impressive game players in really shockingly good positions in the game. Hell, even the mess that is Sabrina pulled off some really impressive stuff early on. Her game is largely blown up thanks to that and because the First Five basically used her but she deserves some kind of credit for pulling off the stuff she did.
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Yep, he constantly claims Adel is faking his religion. He also says Heather's a fat, stupid bitch. And Neda is a useless bitch doing whatever Jon says because they're hooking up (they're not). And he's obsessed with Jon. He's just clearly an angry, unhealthy person who has a need to demonize anyone who isn't benefiting him. Honestly he and the First Five could be as quotable as the BB15 cast was for how often they say something lovely, and he's the worst of the bunch. It's just happening without racism so it's not as big a deal. They're assholes, just not racist assholes. Sabrina, Arlie, and Rachelle got chosen for POV. Heather really wants to put Sarah up if Kenny comes down but Jon and Neda are trying to talk her out of it because they're not sure Arlie will vote her out. Arlie told Jon he would but that might be bs. But something might have happened and Sarah might have pissed them off during the choosing thing because everyone is pretty fired up and Kenny and Jon went at it. So did Adele and Sabrina. Or the Outsiders might just be pissy because the picks went so bad for them. Oh, Alison revealed the First Five to Heather and Heather told the rest. So everyone knows know. It's probably why they seem to have taken the target off Rachelle and Alison and redirected it to Sarah. It's also probably why they're so unsure of Arlie. But Rachelle and Alison still seem content to be hanger ons to the 1st5 so not much has really changed. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Apr 5, 2014 21:09
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Kenny won POV. You have to love this game. Heather is 100% set on putting Sarah up and Jon, Neda, and Adel are pumped to send her home. Its amazing how badly Sarah has played the last week. 10 days ago I would have told you she was playing the best game, was the safest in the house, and could go down as one the best ever. Jon would have fought to protect her back then. But she's sabotaged herself so badly the last week to try and bail out Kenny that now Jon WANTS her gone and I think Arlie will even vote her out. Arlie's gonna try and change Heather's mind or shift the target to Alison but he's not going to blow up his game to save Sarah. And he better not push too hard because the Outsiders now know he was in the First Five and he never told them about that. His game is dangerously close to being exposed here. Alison also has finally started playing the game and seems to have flipped. Arlie outed himself to her to give her confidence she's safe and Heather told her its Sarah going up but she told Sabrina she didn't know who would go up. She also told Jon and Neda about First Five. So the Outsiders in theory just got a little stronger, Kenny a lot weaker, and Arlie a little less safe, but none of that may matter if Sarah stays and one of her side wins HOH. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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There's apparently a hidden immunity idol in the BB House. Allison found a clue in a new flower pot that apparently says "make a splash". She first made a beeline for the hot tube but Sabrina was there so she got sucked into a 20 minute rant about why Sabrina has to vote out Allison because Sabrina is such a great and loyal person. Alison gave up and went to the pool where she spotted some hockey pucks at the bottom. Now she's dinking around trying to figure out how to dive in and get them without drawing attention. The pucks have been there for days and the 6 million vote thing played a couple of days ago. So if the puck is a clue its been sitting there with no one noticing and they added the second clue because no one ever goes in that thing. Yep, found a clue on the puck that leads her to a mirror. Clue in the mirror led her BACK to the War Room. Kind of makes it a little less fun that the one person who knows the War Room exists just found a clue to its existence, but what can you do? Now she's trapped in an Arlie pontification before she can get in. I bet Survivor HII searches are this boring and frustrating when not edited into 30 seconds too. Edit: She eventually got in the War Room but we didn't see what happened in there. She stuffed something in her bag, though, so she probably got the Veto. Sarah also tried to warn Kenny that Arlie and Alison might flip and he might be screwed come Thursday but he was too arrogant to really consider it. Sarah keeps trying to convince him that Heather wouldn't put her up if she didn't think she had the numbers but Kenny can't see past his perception that Heather is an idiot who is being manipulated by an ego driven Jon. Sarah is going to have to hold Kenny's hand and sit him down if she wants to prepare him for a game without her. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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drat, I'm sorry for spamming this thread but I figure someone may care. I've just been enjoying this season and OnlineBigBrother's youtube channel makes it super easy to follow. Tell me to stop if I'm annoying. Kenny used the POV and Sarah went up. Allison didn't play a POV so its not clear if she has anything. She might have just held onto it because she felt safe and didn't want to spook anyone/waste it. I guess we'll find out Wednesday. Sarah made it clear to Kenny and Sabrina that if she goes home it means Arlie flipped. Kenny confronted Arlie and threatened him (because that's Kenny's move). In response Arlie told Sarah he was voting her out and spilled every secret he had to Allison and the rest. It was probably a smart move in case Sarah tries to out him since she doesn't have any secrets left they don't know about, unless she lies. Which she's never been above. But he probably bought a bit of trust there. The First Five (or whatever) have chosen to respond to all of this by being total assholes. The Have Nots are debating just eating to get everyone else put on slop. Kenny plans to just go scorched earth on everyone and stop being nice (that he's been "nice" is a scary thought). Sarah is debating trashing Jon's character in her final plea. Rachelle wants to cut off Arlie's dick. Talk got so nasty and personal that BB stopped showing them for an hour. Last things heard were Sabrina yelling to Jon's girlfriend that he got a yeast infection from Neda, Sarah saying Jon's a piece of poo poo who treats women like whores, and Kenny wishing Jon's dog dead. They really don't like Jon but still think Canada may love them. As said, Arlie unloaded EVERYTHING about the First Five to this point. There were a number of surprising reveals to the others like how Sabrina was in on Paul's eviction and the destruction of the girls' alliance all along and how manipulative and deceitful Sarah has actually been. Neda is especially pissed. Allison seems to have firmly flipped in large part to what Arlie revealed (such as they had targeted her for elimination the week Canada was HOH) and the stuff they've told her the First Five have said about her (such as Sabrina spreading the lie that Allison was cheating on a boyfriend). And they finally settled on a name. After a few days of sarcastically referring to themselves as The HAND J's (suggested by Jon as an acronym for Heather, Arlie/Alllison, Neda, Deli, and Jon) and The Nedas (suggested by guess who) they finally settled on the Sloppy Seconds. That's just a perfect response to the Final Five. edit: So it seems that the feed blackout was BB giving The First Five a scolding for how vicious and nasty they were getting. Kenny said that they got "a warning" and Sarah's a mess about being a bad person. Kenny pulled Arlie aside and said he didn't want things to be awkward and gave him respect for outplaying him. Arlie and Jon both tried to talk to Sarah but she wasn't able to. BB seems to have talked everyone off a ledge and given Kenny and Sarah a heads up to how bad they were being. Well, except Sabrina. She's giving Allison the mother of all guilt trips for flipping, claiming she's never been mean to Allison or anyone else, and hurting her "worse than she's ever been hurt before." Remember, this is the person Sabrina is planning to vote out of the house this Thursday. Rachelle also gave Allison a guilt trip for ruining her game, seemingly not recognizing that Rachelle did the exact same thing to Ika a couple of weeks ago. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Lots of douchiness has gotten caught. They were just getting really vicious and out of control today and I suspect BB might have been trying to protect everyone. Honestly, I can respect them not wanting to broadcast that kind of ugly poo poo. Them talking about having their families beat up Heather or trashing Jon's character, family, and friends? It's not a part of the game and those people didn't sign up for it. If there's something that seems odd its BB pulling them aside and telling them they're over the line or looking bad, since that seems like it might be a huge favor to them and their games. But then again I really wanted BB15 to address the racism last year so I guess its just a question of where the line is. But Yeah, I get lonely in here sometimes. But I actually think this is a way more interesting season and less nasty one than BB15. But that's probably a low bar, its just the only two BB seasons I've watched live with feeds. Re: Allison's boyfriend she's copped to having one on the outside but they agreed when she went in that they'd split and see what happens when she gets out. When she first hooked up with Andrew she had some guilt about that and said stuff to him through the camera. I'm not big on judging that personal stuff of people because its between them and their loved ones but that's kind of the exact opposite context than what Sabrina was saying, that she was a cheating whore who didn't feel bad. And yeah, if Jon and Neda are hooking up they've somehow managed to keep it off camera. Although I couldn't help but notice on Thursday's show that Jon's girlfriend bears a striking resemblance to Neda.
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I compared it more to BB5 than BB6. An impressive but douchey power alliance run things early and think they're invincible, everyone they treated badly unites in hatred and takes them down, then once its over the game begins with that random mix of people who were only united in hate. I think if Kenny had gone this week it would have worked like Jase leaving where Sarah, Arlie, and Allison just merge into the group like Drew and Cowboy did. Hell, I thought Arlie and Sarah were set up well to get to the end like Drew and Cowboy. But Kenny got the POV and Sarah self destructed so now the S6 like house split is going to extend at least until Kenny goes. Jon said "queer bag" or something like that a couple of times. I've actually never heard that as some kind of slur and he seemed to actually feel bad when someone told him it might be. I saw him apologize/bring it up a couple of times. He's really just a big goofy bro idiot, I think. He can be a bit of a douche but just in that juvenile, 20 something way that may rub you wrong or you may find charming. The thing that I think makes him ok is that the other day he got in a fight with Kenny and called him a "piece of poo poo" and then a couple of hours later said he felt bad about it. Sarah actually chilled out after BB talked to her. I mean, she's still kind of "above it all" and self righteous but that's just how she is. She honestly doesn't generally seem to be near as nasty as some of the others though. She genuinely seemed to feel bad about losing it and saying the poo poo she said. I don't think she's a super bad person or anything, she just went sort of crazy the last week. Its a shame because I really thought she could be one of the best BB players ever a week ago. Who knows what could have happened if Kenny had never come out.
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Allison was playing a pretty lovely game but I don't totally blame her. She came into the house late and couldn't break in and she hooked up with Andrew and the First Five and was just stuck on the bottom of that dysfunctional group. But the last couple of days she's been getting a lot of information from Sabrina and the Sloppy Seconds and she seems to be waking up and getting into the game. She found the hidden POV and hasn't told anyone, she's been keeping info to herself and sharing some important info at opportune times, and forming solid relationships. So I think she might come together as a player after all. I'm interested to see how she navigates the next couple of weeks where she should be safe but is on the bottom of the Sloppy Seconds totem pole.Yer Burnt posted:What do you mean by that? Would she not have aligned so strongly with Kenny if he didn’t come out to her? Basically up to that point Sarah was playing a great game with great relationships with Kenny, Jon, Arlie, and Sabrina. She and Arlie had even conceived this "Plan B" alliance for when/if the Final Five fell apart, so she obviously was open to a future without Kenny. When he came out to her she just became attached to him and neglected all those other relationships. She kept pushing a Jon/Neda/Kenny alliance way past it making sense which eroded Jon's trust in her and made it obvious who her #1 was. When Kenny wanted to flip the vote to save Andrew/evict Sabrina she went in on it and it blew up in her face. When Heather won HOH and Kenny was clearly the target she flat out threatened Arlie, Jon, and Neda. She even told people she wanted to go up as the pawn against Kenny and if she won POV she'd use it on him instead of herself. Jon and especially Arlie kept trying to talk sense into her and make her see that Kenny's days were numbered and if she just let him go she'd be in an amazing position. They flat out TOLD her that if she kept this up and he won POV they might not be able to save her. Then something happened at the POV that sealed her fate. Before POV Heather wanted to put Sarah up but Arlie and Jon were trying to talk her out of it. After POV both of them were 100% behind sending her home because of some kind of outburst she had for Kenny/against Jon (even she admitted she hosed up bad). She basically blew up her whole game in just a few days to try and salvage Kenny's sinking game. She had half a dozen outs and people literally begging her to take them and she just wouldn't walk away from him. She even admits it. And Kenny coming out seems to have been the catalyst. ADEL CAME CLEAN ABOUT HIS POWER! He finally came clean that he still has it and its just to pull someone out of the POV and replace them. The hilarious thing is that he's lied so many times that none of them believed him at first. He's pointing out that if they win the next HOH then they can nominate the Gremlins to backdoor Kenny and even if he gets picked they can use his power to pull him out and guarantee he gets backdoored. Kenny's guaranteed to go if he or the Gremlins don't win HOH. They're so shocked the bedroom is chaotic. Well, he's still lying. He claims the power powered down after three weeks. But he's kind of telling the truth. Its so disappointing that the show never aired this stuff because the saga of Adel's magical power lies has been hilarious and honestly might be one of the most unique and impressive game plays in BB History. He took a pretty minor power, spun it into game changing protection, confused the house so much they were constantly paranoid and terrified of him, and it may finally seal Kenny's fate. Allison is asking Adel a bunch of questions about the semantics of his Veto prize and the bullshit of it being powered down. I'm interpreting that as her having the secret POV and wondering if hers does the same. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Yeah, she did that the other night too. She just woke up in the middle of the night and tossed some condiments. Jon caught her in the act and when she told him what she was doing his response was "I'm out of here, I want nothing to do with this poo poo." I don't think anyone else knows and I don't think they even noticed yesterday. No one saw her last night. They were talking about doing it earlier in the week because Kenny and Andrew were giant dicks to the Have Nots finishing off their condiments, making coffee they couldn't drink, and saying "gently caress the Have Nots." The rest of them all decided against doing it and thought it was stooping too low, but Neda can be kind of an rear end in a top hat.
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Here's my obsessive mid day/home and catching up update. Arlie's been gaming hard today, trying to rope Allison in as his new Sarah, trying to deepen his relationship with Heather by telling her how much he hated the way the First Five treated her, and trying to convince Jon they need to watch each other's backs because otherwise they become the next target. He's in a shaky position because Jon, Neda, Adel, and Heather never really considered him part of their group and don't trust him. Sarah was a huge part of his master plan. Allison doesn't trust him either. She also seems to still be on the fence and considering the merits of flipping back to Kenny or Sabrina/Rachelle depending on HOH breaks. She also seemed to confirm she has the POV. I didn't actually hear this so not sure about the details. I got the sense she was just playing the middle and weighing out her options since she doesn't trust Arlie and knows she's on the bottom of the Sloppy Seconds (she's right, Neda and Heather were saying yesterday they can't let her get to the end because she'd kick their asses in challenges). No real other game talk happening as Sarah has accepted death and Kenny is utilizing a new "be nice to people" strategy. Rachelle and Sabrina are just their usual, exhausting selfs going from person to person to cry and whine. Rachelle's super pissed about the missing Maple Syrup but Kenny's keeping his troops more or less in line with the whole "don't be an rear end in a top hat" game plan. At least he figured it out eventually. (Since BGrifter thinks I'm unfair to Kenny I want to say that he seems to genuinely get that they made their own bed by being jerks to people and thinking they were invincible. He's not stupid, he's just arrogant and forgot to play the game after a couple of weeks.) Only other drama brewing is that Jon is freaking out that BB told them they can't talk about his girlfriend anymore. He naturally is worried she withdrew consent and is mad at him. This is made worse by Adel revealing last night that Jon and Allison drunkenly pecked when they were smashed during their booze task. Thing is feed watchers know that Sabrina, Sarah, Kenny, and Rachelle were saying vicious poo poo about her yesterday and that's when the feeds started getting turned off at her name. But Jon has no idea that happened so just assumes the worst. And they're too self involved and certain that Jon is evil and banging Neda to put 2 and 2 together and realize its their fault. They're just happy Jon's unhappy. The group talking about Rachel Reilly. Heather: People hated her voice, they'll hate mine too. Sarah: Your normal voice isn't bad. Its just that stupid, fake high pitched voice I can't stand. Heather: It just gets that way when I'm excited. Sarah: I haven't heard your horrendous voice in awhile. Heather: Thanks? Sarah: You're welcome. I think Sarah forgot yesterday's lesson about being nice. Aw poo poo. Sabrina called a house meeting! Sabrina: I never targeted Jon and Neda! Arlie: The whole alliance targeted Jon! Everyone bursts out laughing. Sabrina: I would never have put you up, I swore it and I meant it. Jon: So what would you have done if the First Five told you to put me up? Sabrina: I was very scared of that and I wanted to put up Adel. Neda: That wasn't actually an answer. Sabrina: We will all see the truth when we see the show. (her favorite line) Neda: I can't wait! Jon: But you already know everything that happened so nothing will surprise you. Sabrina: And that will be another thing you see. Everyone bursts out laughing. Neda and Jon are just over Sabrina's poo poo. Sarah's over Sabrina's poo poo too. Sabrina goes to whine to Sarah about being mistreated. Sarah: Can you go loving somewhere else and talk about this? I'm done, I don't want to deal with it. You got had. Get over it. Figure out a way to fix it. I'm the one leaving. Here's a funny triva bit. Last night Jon suddenly remembered that Kenny told him about the First Five in Week 2 by accident. Jon just forgot. Kenny confirmed it happened so literally, Jon knew this whole time and just forgot. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Everyone's sitting around at the hot tub goofing around and enjoying each other's company for once so Kenny randomly sits up and yells. "gently caress IT, I'M GAY!" Obviously everyone's shocked and happy for him. No real drama besides a little from Sabrina. Sabrina: Oh my God, I kissed you. Everyone bursts into laughter. Rachelle is visibly nervous because she had an obvious crush on him. Jon: You really were completely out of the loop. Adele: Since we're all telling the truth I jacked off three days ago. Everyone laughs. Sarah just admitted to Neda, Allison, and Sabrina that until Kenny came out she would have turned on him but after that she just couldn't. So yep, that theory is confirmed. Kenny coming out killed Sarah's game. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was sincere. The house has been tense but he's been trying to get along with everyone since the warning incident from BB the other day. He doesn't really have anything left to lose and everyone's been coming clean on a lot of stuff the last couple of days. It probably felt good to just let it out and have everyone smile and slap his back for once. Its probably the first time in a month he's felt genuine camaraderie with the house. But strategically it can't hurt. Sabrina can't help but be a negative influence in the house and keeps picking fights with everyone. Rachelle is just following her around, bitching about everyone, and doing nothing to play this game or ingratiate herself with the house. Kenny's only chance in this game is to build a few relationships, win comps to stay off the block, and hope when he finally gets on the block they want Sabrina or Rachelle gone more than him. I don't think it will change anything as Jon and the Sloppy Seconds are pretty focused on Kenny as the biggest threat. But it can't hurt to actually play a social game finally. I went out after the coming out thing but apparently they kept spilling secrets because Kenny is talking about The Sloppy Seconds, the Faction, and the Stupids now. I guess they spilled all their alliances. I actually feel bad for Rachelle. She's been walking around the last day or so clearly feeling burned that she played such a terrible game and had no idea what was happening. The more secrets that come out the stupider she feels. She keeps commenting on how she never actually had an ally the whole game and people keep saying at least she can honestly say she never lied because she never knew anything. If she wasn't such a mean girl I'd feel really bad for her. Rachelle: If you were in here with a single girl who liked you would you have had a showmance? Can you imagine the girl? I'd poo poo myself. She'd poo poo herself. Poor, poor mean Rachelle. Oh, and I guess Sarah made a pitch to Neda, once again trying to form a Kenny/Sarah/Jon/Neda alliance. That was her plan earlier to Kenny that they could frame Arlie as a flip vote and then take out each other's sides. But Arlie's done too good a job burning his First Five bonds and Jon/Neda are way too suspicious. I'd be shocked if they humor this. Sarah just doesn't get how badly she eroded trust the last week by lying to protect Kenny. She also doesn't know how pissed Neda is that Sarah was playing them the girls alliance the whole time. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Teek posted:Allison pulling herself off the block with her veto might have been just the crack Sarah and Kenny needed to sacrifice Sabrina to the other side. But since I think Allison will play it during a double eviction, there really won't be time for them to get in the other side's ear about keeping Sarah. Yeah, I think that's why she didn't play it to take herself off. There's a lot of doubt and suspicion about Allison because of her late entrance and she was building new relationships with the Sloppy Seconds. So if she had pulled that out I think she would have scared people and maybe given a smart player like Sarah an opening. She was talking to herself yesterday and playing out scenarios about using it to save Kenny during a double eviction. I think she was playing out a scenario where the Gremlins go up, Kenny wins the Veto and saves one and she saves the other in theory forcing the Sloppy Seconds to eliminate one of their own. But Adel's power and the Seconds' plan to use it if any of them win should prevent that from happening so I don't see a smart scenario for Allison to play it on Thursday.
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Pre-eviction obsessive update... Sarah's going home. She made her plea to Neda to keep her in as a way to subversively play both sides and give Neda a big move to hang her hat on. Neda slept on it but told Sarah this morning she simply didn't trust Sarah and couldn't trust Kenny. Again, Sarah's mistake is she doesn't actually understand why she's going home and that its about her and not Kenny. She's still working on the idea that people trust her. Everyone more or less suspects its a Double Elimination just because there are so many people left. Sloppy Seconds plan is the Gremlins up as pawns and use Adel's power to backdoor Kenny. Allison's shaky but she probably won't turn on them that way. Kenny's plan is Jon and Arlie with Neda as the replacement. He's focused on getting out Jon but its unclear who would stay if Jon and Arlie were on the block. I think Arlie would go. Rachelle and Sabrina are ostensibly on board with Kenny but Sabrina's been throwing fits all week about Kenny and Sarah lying to her so you never know. But she's done nothing but push the Sloppy Seconds further away this week so she probably won't have a way to break from Kenny. Kenny and the Gremlins think cracks are forming in Sloppy Seconds because Jon and Neda were bickering last night. This just kind of shows how bad a read on the house they have because Jon and Neda always bicker and fight. That's their thing. It was a little more tense last night because Neda told Jon they should be thinking about who goes after Kenny and that Arlie might be the better choice than the Gremlins. Jon trusts Arlie more and didn't really like the idea of turning on the Sloppy Seconds so early. Neda wasn't pushing it but said they should be thinking about it before Arlie or someone tries to break them up first. That conversation put both in a bad mood. This morning they made amends and seemed to agree its Rachelle first and then Allison. Sabrina of course believes she's #1 on everyone's target list, even Kenny, because she's convinced she's the season's mastermind. She really might coast deep if the Sloppy Seconds can get Kenny and Rachelle out next. No one sees her as a threat and Allison may even try and work with her. Still, Sabrina's isolated and throwing fits now with her "friends" in the house, she's probably going to have a meltdown if she has to spend a couple of weeks with just the Sloppy Seconds. Or one of them might kill her. In some ways the worst thing that could happen to Kenny would be for Rachelle to go and him to be stuck with Sabrina. But that shouldn't happen during the DE thanks to Adel's power. Allison's very tough to read since she's kind of all over the place. She knows Arlie is playing her and others and doesn't trust him. She recognizes she's on the bottom of the Sloppy Seconds and has been feeling around to see if she can improve her position. She's also clearly contemplating flipping back. A big part of the problem is that the Sloppy Seconds really hate Andrew and Sabrina and Allison really likes them, so there's a lot of awkward moments when they're talking bad about them (which is usually not personal attacks, just frustration at what they did in the game). At the same time Sabrina is emotionally manipulating Allison asking her why she can betray Andrew this way and why she'd hang out with people who hate Sabrina, and Allison can see this for what it is. So I have no idea how she's going to break when push comes to shove. She's got some emotional connection to the First Five but seems to at least be trying to think this out logically. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Yeah, considering they showed Kenny and Sarah the War Room, Allison finding the Veto, and told them that Allison lived in there I think there's no chance they can return or are in the jury. Which I guess means the houseguests are right and Canada is the 7th juror? Assuming most don't watch the Side Show (because it sucks) they showed footage of Allison warning Kenny about Adel's secret power and the plan to backdoor him. Given that I think there's a chance that if Rachelle or Sabrina win POV that Allison may use her Veto to save the other. That would force Jon to put up two of his allies and Allison and the Gremlins would decide who goes home. Then it would leave Allison and the Gremlins vs three of Neda, Adel, Heather, and Arlie in the next HOH. I don't know if she still wants to work with Sabrina (she seemed locked into Kenny because of that stupid promise she made Andrew) but this week is her last chance to use that thing so unless she gets backdoored she may be tempted to,try and flip the house. It could be a boring week with the Gremlins basically a mortal lock to go up but between Neda, Arlie, Sabrina, and Allison I think there's going to be a lot of gaming as they try and position themselves for next week. It sounds like Neda is already trying to work Rachelle to keep her in the game and shift the target to Sabrina. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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