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twistedmentat posted:Also, that's really dark whats happened to Dazzler.
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Mystique is using her to harvest mutant growth hormone, while keeping her under sensory deprivation because she's not entirely sure if her powers work by sight or hearing.
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Mar 20, 2014 14:56
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Which is a pretty big reveal considering the issue that Magneto left, he finds that MGH is the abundant drug of choice for nearly the entire island of Madripor. That means Mystique has been draining her for quite some time and not a soul outside her click knows about it, save Magneto who I'm pretty sure isn't about to rescue a sellout to Shield.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:48
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:Which is a pretty big reveal considering the issue that Magneto left, he finds that MGH is the abundant drug of choice for nearly the entire island of Madripor. That means Mystique has been draining her for quite some time and not a soul outside her click knows about it, save Magneto who I'm pretty sure isn't about to rescue a sellout to Shield. I am sure she is just one mutant she is using.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:51
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:HUGE thanks to Twisted for the summary. You've sold me on this book. (My wallet hates you.) It meanders a bit at the start, but once it starts in on full crazy mode it doesn't stop. I'd say this is one of the most bad rear end Thor moments I've read outside his solo book (which is metal as gently caress). quote:The Goldballs jokes got a smirk and eye roll out of me but, it was specifically the pants soiling bits that were just annoying. The 14 year old boy in me thought it was funny, but it also likes Emma's inner side boob a lot too, so its a bad person. Gold Balls has a GOLD BALL on his costume. Seriously? Aphrodite posted:Scott already made the decision to go after SHIELD in All New, so this issue was mostly pointless. Yea, but this time he REALLY MEANS IT!
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Mar 20, 2014 19:47
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twistedmentat posted:Gold Balls has a GOLD BALL on his costume. Seriously? Well that's where they shoot from when he has control. Telling your enemy exactly where your attack is coming from is X-Men tradition.
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Mar 20, 2014 20:07
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bobkatt013 posted:I am sure she is just one mutant she is using. I dunno, I could totally see Mystique being the type to just stuff a bunch of people in a warehouse if that were the case but I wouldn't be surprised if you were right either. I guess it could be used as a retcon for anyone else MIA. I'm also not really liking how some characters just went poof after those two X-Force teams met up. On a plus side, I'm so happy for Nightcrawler's return! Just for desicussion's sake (To the thread in general) Who's your favorite character right now and a moment they really shined in your eyes recently? PriNcessofDarXness fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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Mar 21, 2014 07:20
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:I dunno, I could totally see Mystique being the type to just stuff a bunch of people in a warehouse if that were the case but I wouldn't be surprised if you were right either. I guess it could be used as a retcon for anyone else MIA. No I am an idiot and I agree with you. I meant to say is that that I am sure she is not just the only mutant she is using.
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Mar 21, 2014 13:17
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Aphrodite posted:Mystique is using her to harvest mutant growth hormone, while keeping her under sensory deprivation because she's not entirely sure if her powers work by sight or hearing. God, at first I thought Mystique had removed Dazzler's eyes and was using them to better impersonate her or something 
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Mar 21, 2014 15:52
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bobkatt013 posted:No I am an idiot and I agree with you. I meant to say is that that I am sure she is not just the only mutant she is using. I'm slightly confused about whether that first part is sarcastic or not cause I totally got what you meant and agree with you that it probably is likely she's holding others captive for this purpose. I dunno how long it's been in comic time but its been enough time for Mystique & friends to gain control of the entire island with MGH seeming to be their main source of income. Dazzler looked pretty bad and I don't know exactly how the drug works but I'm pretty sure one mutant couldn't supply a whole population. Geez, Pac, that's pretty twisted.
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Mar 21, 2014 18:38
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:I'm slightly confused about whether that first part is sarcastic or not cause I totally got what you meant and agree with you that it probably is likely she's holding others captive for this purpose. I dunno how long it's been in comic time but its been enough time for Mystique & friends to gain control of the entire island with MGH seeming to be their main source of income. Dazzler looked pretty bad and I don't know exactly how the drug works but I'm pretty sure one mutant couldn't supply a whole population. No its not sarcastic. I took my own comment as being just about her being the sole person, and thought I just hosed up. I assume that she is using the X-men to find new mutants, and thinking that SHIELD is helping contacts Dazzler and they are sent to be harvested.
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Mar 21, 2014 18:43
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triplexpac posted:God, at first I thought Mystique had removed Dazzler's eyes and was using them to better impersonate her or something Honestly, when I read the issue I also thought they were going in that direction too. (To be fair, if one confines oneself to the art, it's likely that is what happened. Maybe editorial came in and had Bendis re-write the dialogue so as to imply a better fate for Alison.) As for MGH, when it was introduced, the sole supply of it came from Spider-girl (in Alias) and later the Owl (in Daredevil.) I think, though it's never been said, superhuman blood/DNA is a vital ingredient in MGH, but you can probably use it to make a lot of MGH as it only requires a small amount of that, and a lot of other chemicals.
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Mar 22, 2014 18:16
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So, Dazzler really could be the sole source? That would explain the condition of her arm. Ouch. I really gotta wonder what it'll be like when Nightcrawler and Cyclops(My two favs) meet up again?
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Mar 22, 2014 22:16
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:So, Dazzler really could be the sole source? That would explain the condition of her arm. Ouch. "Hey, Kurt. Welcome back. Death is boring, right?"
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Mar 23, 2014 00:37
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Yeah, at this point death's just a joke. Even for comic book deaths, the X-Men just don't stay on the other side, at all.
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Codependent Poster posted:"Hey, Kurt. Welcome back. Death is boring, right?"
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Mar 23, 2014 03:18
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Jean's been dead for quite a while hasn't she?
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Mar 23, 2014 03:24
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Is Moira McTaggart still dead? Has Banshee come back yet?
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Mar 23, 2014 03:25
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Metal Loaf posted:Is Moira McTaggart still dead? Has Banshee come back yet? Is being turned into a Horsemen count?
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Mar 23, 2014 03:29
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twistedmentat posted:Jean's been dead for quite a while hasn't she? A Jean is dead.
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Mar 23, 2014 03:34
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Banshee was in a picture with an 'X' on it in the Uncanny Avengers book I read so I assume he's back and already dead again?
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Mar 23, 2014 03:38
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Banshee came back in Necrosha. Say, why didn't Jean come back that time?
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Mar 23, 2014 04:32
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Rick posted:Banshee was in a picture with an 'X' on it in the Uncanny Avengers book I read so I assume he's back and already dead again? He came back as a Horseman of Death. He has been neutralized.
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Mar 23, 2014 07:06
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Rhyno posted:Banshee came back in Necrosha. It was a can of worms that'd have taken over the event.
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Mar 23, 2014 08:08
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I have some horrible feeling they'd recently done a resurrect Jean event like, centered on Pryor or something horrible like that? I feel like it was right around Necrosha? It's either I'm repressing a storyline or I'm having difficulty discerning my nightmares and flashbacks to Greg Land art, though. Both feel about the same. It may not have involved Greg Land. The faces haunt me.
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Mar 23, 2014 09:40
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Aaron was dropping some pretty heavy Jean hints with the Wolverine in Hell story. But they never went anywhere.
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Spiderdrake posted:I have some horrible feeling they'd recently done a resurrect Jean event like, centered on Pryor or something horrible like that? I feel like it was right around Necrosha? It's either I'm repressing a storyline or I'm having difficulty discerning my nightmares and flashbacks to Greg Land art, though. Both feel about the same. Phoenix: Endsong is the last story to use the original Jean Grey, I believe, and it was penned by Land. The Pryor story you're thinking of was probably during Fraction's run on Uncanny, which was also under the foul scrawl of Land.
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Aphrodite posted:He came back as a Horseman of Death. He has been neutralized. Also the earth blew up and it's a time travel story so none of it will stick.
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Mar 23, 2014 15:12
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Spiderdrake posted:I have some horrible feeling they'd recently done a resurrect Jean event like, centered on Pryor or something horrible like that? I feel like it was right around Necrosha? It's either I'm repressing a storyline or I'm having difficulty discerning my nightmares and flashbacks to Greg Land art, though. Both feel about the same. They were building to her returning in Second Coming but there are certain editors/writers at Marvel that hate her and constantly veto her coming back, Bendis is one of them. She appears for a couple of panels in the Sisterhood of Evil arc which was Fraction/Land.
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Hakkesshu posted:Phoenix: Endsong is the last story to use the original Jean Grey, I believe, and it was penned by Land. The Pryor story you're thinking of was probably during Fraction's run on Uncanny, which was also under the foul scrawl of Land. Hey hey hey. Greg Pakk was also involved in Phoenix: Endsong. And the sequel, Phoenix: Warsong, but that didn't have Jean Grey in it. The last proper appearance of Jean Grey (apart from the time displaced one) was at the end of AvX. She shows up in a very "this redhead whose face you don't see but is totally Jean Grey gives the equivalent of Superman winking at the camera." moment at the resolution of the story.
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Mar 23, 2014 16:54
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The Question IRL posted:Hey hey hey. Greg Pakk was also involved in Phoenix: Endsong. And the sequel, Phoenix: Warsong, but that didn't have Jean Grey in it. Greg Pak has at least done many great comics that redeem such a mistake. Greg Land has not.
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Mar 23, 2014 17:11
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:
I would like to think Kurt would be the only X-Man on Logan's side to say "Oh hey, you were possessed by the Phoenix when you killed Professor X. You should come back to the school already and we should all stop acting like dicks for no reason."
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Mar 23, 2014 19:04
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Yeah sorry, I should have been a lot more clearer on that. My curiosity isn't in regards to the reaction of Nightcrawler's return("Oh. Hey, Kurt, took ya long enough.") but to how he'll react to where/what Cyclops is now. I think you're right, Shaggy, I trust that out of everyone Kurt will understand that Cyclops, while probably aware of his actions, was unable to fight them and is truly sorry. If anything you'd think everyone would be more sympathetic to Cyclops because this huge flaming demon bird that took the love of his life on multiple ocassions was forced into possessing him and making him kill his father figure. That thing is more his personal devil than Sinister ever was. Spiderdrake posted:Greg Land. The faces haunt me. Me too, man... Me too. PriNcessofDarXness fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Mar 23, 2014 19:41
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:Yeah sorry, I should have been a lot more clearer on that. My curiosity isn't in regards to the reaction of Nightcrawler's return("Oh. Hey, Kurt, took ya long enough.") but to how he'll react to where/what Cyclops is now. I think you're right, Shaggy, I trust that out of everyone Kurt will understand that Cyclops, while probably aware of his actions, was unable to fight them and is truly sorry. While that is a fair interpretation of Kurt's character and how he is willing to turn the other cheek as part of his nature.... From memory, before his death Kurt was distinctly uncomfortable with the X-Men being on Utopia. He disagreed with the direction that Cyclops was bringing the mutant race and felt that they were losing his soul. I believe he even made himself clear that after they dealt with Bastion that he was going to leave. If anything, the current actions of Cyclops could be proof that Nightcrawler was right. (Cue Quinton Quire wearing a "Kurt was Right" T-shirt.)
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But then Kurt gave his life for Hope because he had faith that she was going to save the mutant race. Kurt would probably forgive Scott anything, because he's not the type of guy to hold grudges.
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Mar 23, 2014 21:51
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Codependent Poster posted:But then Kurt gave his life for Hope because he had faith that she was going to save the mutant race. Only, Kurt would have done the same thing even if Hope was some random bystander. It was a kid that would have died without help that only he could provide.
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Then he really isn't gonna like how Logan continued on with X-Force even after Scott disbanded it and even associated his face with it by inviting an alternate reality version of himself to join. Plus messing up Angel's persona and then Beast's messing with the time stream.
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Mar 23, 2014 22:02
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And condoning that X-Force's murder of a child.
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Mar 23, 2014 22:07
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PriNcessofDarXness posted:Then he really isn't gonna like how Logan continued on with X-Force even after Scott disbanded it and even associated his face with it by inviting an alternate reality version of himself to join. Plus messing up Angel's persona and then Beast's messing with the time stream. Kurt will just act like every other character and forget that happened.
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What happened with Hope? She was the most important person ever for at least a year, and now I have no idea what book she's in now.
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