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Hakkesshu posted:I didn't think it was a great issue, but it's got promise. Maybe I'm just sour because I finished reading Vendetta (which was awful) to read the new X-Force which wasn't a great deal better.
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Man is this bendis crossover bad. I'm not sure this is so much a story as retreading a bunch of stuff for the past brought forward kids.bobkatt013 posted:I just hope that Yost does not want to get rid of any of the students.
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ElNarez posted:Am I crazy? I also thought PAD had a really good handle on this week's X-Factor.
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Cabbit posted:Look, if you can't appreciate a terrible joke for the joyous thing that it is then I think it's your issue.
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I have some horrible feeling they'd recently done a resurrect Jean event like, centered on Pryor or something horrible like that? I feel like it was right around Necrosha? It's either I'm repressing a storyline or I'm having difficulty discerning my nightmares and flashbacks to Greg Land art, though. Both feel about the same. It may not have involved Greg Land. The faces haunt me.
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Codependent Poster posted:I really hate that the new X-Force just dumped a whole bunch of characters and poo poo. Domino and Colossus getting together and Spiral being used and Boom Boom and Forge and Nemesis' back and forth. Also, I like Puck. The world needs more Puck in books you wouldn't think he fits into.
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Mar 23, 2014 23:18
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Christmas Jones posted:I'm hoping it's just hype, though. The Red Skull ate his brain, and that wasn't even the worst assault to his dignity compared to Deadly Genesis. Let the man have some peace.
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Mar 27, 2014 18:49
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You know, arguments aside I really don't feel like Bendis wants to be on the X-books. It just comes off as rather negative and phoned in, with constant retreads or actual re-use of previous frames in canon. Spending multiple pages showing the Cyclops plane scene just killed my interest in the book, as odd rear end it sounds, it's several pages he put zero effort into. The plot is moving extremely slowly, and he isn't really exploring much of anything new. The original five. The phoenix. Time travel to re-use characters or ideas. Sentinels. Isn't the trial of Jean Grey something they've done in canon before? Isn't it seriously just a rehash of an idea except it is young-has not-done-it Jean Grey? Some of his issues I've really liked but as a whole I find my interest slipping away. I got bored during ANXM #25 and just put it down. This is like Fear Itself tie-in level Bendis. I would really enjoy if the Cyclops stuff felt like his Dark Avengers with a bit more ambiguity.
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Diet Poison posted:Probably easier to ask if anybody actually liked it? I do find how it deals with cloning and genetic manipulation to be completely stupid but that's a broad across the board thing I have with every X-book. At least it was creepy and evil without just being EVIL JEAN! EVIL XAVIER! so on. And yeah, the original X-future idea is still better, but that's peak Claremont for you.
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Probably Magic posted:I would think the retcons against Morrison would be less Quesada having a fit and more Claremont having a rage fit, especially since Excalibur is just one long whine about Eve of Destruction and New X-Men.
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Someone should totally do a write up of that Excaliber run for the Worst runs thread. I mean it may not be the worst, but it sounds pretty bad.Chinaman7000 posted:I like to tell my non-comic book friends about dumb stuff in comics a lot, but I almost feel ashamed at the entire Xorn thing. It's just too dumb and ridiculous and contrived to even think about. "So Xorn's big reveal is he's Magneto! But that wasn't good enough for some people! So instead, he is the twin brother to another Xorn, also Xorn, and he was Xorn pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Xorn all along! And then one of the Xorns sucked Exodus into his head, or something? I dunno, Chuck Austen, whatever."
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Rhyno posted:Bendis actually explain
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Cabbit posted:Anole is off being CEO of Worthington Industries, which is I guess one way to get rid of a character you don't want to write.
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irlZaphod posted:I'm still not sure if I'm reading X-Factor just because Doug and Warlock are in it, or if I'm actually enjoying reading it. I do like the art though, and I am not in the hates Danger camp anymore either so ... I might be the odd duck here.
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Apr 18, 2014 11:57
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CapnAndy posted:Children's Crusade was Age of Ultron-level terrible. There's probably a worse individual comic or worse arc somewhere in the pile, but Children's Crusade is a major event blockbusting nine issue snoregasm of lovely retcons, out of character writing and just dogshit everything.
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You're probably right, but I think it bears repeating CC started (according to wikipedia, I barely remember) in 2010?
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I really liked all new, and then I didn't. It feels like Bendis doesn't want me to enjoy it, also that Bendis wants me to hate Kitty. X-Force is getting better and better just as Legacy did, though some of it was a little bit too on the nose or feels a bit off. I'm going to agree with the idea that Spurrier isn't handling Fantomex very well, but then add on that I don't think anyone has in a while and the hole is getting pretty big here, so maybe it isn't his fault.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:24
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Rhyno posted:Young Jean implying that she would be totally into old Scott was creepy as gently caress. What is unusual, to me, is a writer feeling the need to write greater than zero words on that topic, especially since it sours every other interaction those two are going to have. He took a heartwarming scene, defecated on it and then had Kitty show up to wag her finger at us. Like I said, it's like he doesn't want us to enjoy the book. Spiderdrake fucked around with this message at 08:01 on May 1, 2014 |
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I feel like Sabertooth is better the further away he gets from Wolverine and being caught in the perpetual loop of being a secondary character that progresses or regresses randomly. Also is it just a thing that Wolverine stories have to be about healing factors and relatives now? I haven't read much of his solo work recently but that was a big part of Daken and all his back story right? Hell, isn't the current book about how he lost his healing factor?
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May 7, 2014 05:51
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Teenage Fansub posted:I don't see how the line could be interpreted any different unless we really stretch how much time 'a couple' can refer to. Otherwise people would just say two.
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Rhyno posted:Good money says Bendis ends his X-Men run with the return of the real Jean Grey.
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May 10, 2014 14:18
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I really hate the phoenix, time travel and pre-destination as a plot point. Assuming that is even the word I'm looking for. And yet I find myself really enjoying this Quire focused Wolverine and the X-men. I also find X-Factor weirdly amusing.
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Suben posted:Edit: I honestly think "wacky high concept" is sort of an overplayed thing at Marvel in general though IMO and it's the main reason I absolutely hate Aaron's X-Men run. I tried re-reading WATXM from the beginning again and just found it, yeah, doesn't work for me. I like all the concepts in the new run though.
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May 22, 2014 23:36
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MY ABACUS! posted:I know this isn't what you're taking issue with, but every time there's a "hope you survive the experience," I cringe so hard.
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bobkatt013 posted:The Draco Who is the blue lass?
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Seriously, I kinda take it for granted being a 19-year-old but my friendly neighborhood comics shop had Saga right next to a Transformers comic in the indie section. I haven't read Saga but I imagine it isn't too far from it in terms of maturity.
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Really enjoyed this issue of ANX-Factor, PAD is starting to get into the swing of things while keeping the scale just right. I like Gambit's cats more than I should.SALT CURES HAM posted:Transformers has robots fighting each other. Saga has graphic anal sex and child prostitution. I'd say they're kind of on a different level. Also I don't think robots torturing each other by chainsawing off each other's limbs is precisely under the domain of "robots fighting each other", but I concede Saga is much further than I thought it was.
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Sam is one of those good, well rounded b or c-list characters where writers just forget to care and write them completely out of current characterization. Wasn't he on the team that worked for Pete Wisdom and did a bunch of gnarly black ops poo poo even? His resume is pretty drat respectable, but no one ever remembers. edit: Oh and Age of X is drat excellent, it is sort of a AU where some of it matters and it is one of the best Legion stories. Probably my favorite Rogue story, and I sort of wish Frenzy was still hanging around with Cyclops but I guess Bendis didn't want to follow up on that. Does have the alternate timeline version of Pixie slipping in one of the dirtiest lines in a comic, but "Nightmare" might annoy people anyway. Spiderdrake fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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The future evil brotherhood that we met sends a letter to the past-future brotherhood so we're actually seeing the future brotherhood from the future brotherhood's past explicitly told how to deal with the present X-teams but after the future future brotherhood showed up. Which is why a bunch of them are back, because that future no longer exists, but it send the past future brotherhood a letter.Probably Magic posted:Raze could've been an interesting character since Logan and Raven are pretty strange people whose kid would be weird, but he's just written as a blue Sabertooth. Missed opportunity there. Take existing property Draw angry eyebrows on them Make them say THE FUTURE IS YOUR FAULT Anything beyond that was too much effort
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That is a reference to Mystique giving the kid up for adoption. I still find it really weird he isn't Legion's son - wasn't he introduced as Xavier's grandson? It would be a total mindfuck if he was Legion's son, X-men kill his grandfather and are totally fine with his father being deleted from existence. Oh no now I'm picturing BoTA being written by Spurrier and it would actually be good. Argh.
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The problem with the reveal is that it felt like it was building up to be some sort of off-shoot from the time travel thing - like something Beast's idiocy brought into the present. It could be anything, in fact, it largely felt it was supposed to be a new character or a new take. I think people were guessing it could be Cyclops (from the past) come back from the future to gently caress with Cyclops (present) in the present. Say young Cyclops developed a thing for X-23, and then something older Cyclops does gets her killed and eventually young Cyclops grows up, hates the future and realizes "where it all went wrong" is where he lost X-23 (I am intentionally avoiding the brutal and obtuse 'hello im bendis im ruin the major x-romance blargh' thing). The elements are already in play. Actually, for a moment there I really thought the reveal was going to be young Beast grown up and all bitter about the future or how old and young Cyclops treated him. I could totally dig that. The only real information we had to work from is the idea the dude hated Cyclops and had sentinels which to me really doesn't feel like Dark Beast at all actually. Does Dark Beast even remember who Cyclops is? So I guess that's another problem too. Also does anyone else ever find it rather weird that Iron Man is like the only Marvel super science to be written as having a set of even vaguely specific skills? Like Dark Beast is using nano-sentinels and robotics when I swear he was like all in on being an evil biologist. It's just like, this science can do anything! Engineering, robotics, biology, nanotech! It's all the same thing anyway! Comic books! So basically even if it were better written the reveal didn't work (neither does Sinister, either, but I also just plain wish Sinister would never come back)
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I would be totally fine with a mature writer plotting out Molly Hayes' life to that end. Looking at how screwed up her childhood got and how exposure to the bullshit the X-people sling at each other isn't good for a developing mind, then writing a story that ends with her losing faith with the X-men and becoming 'evil' in a reasonable fashion, but I think that kind of mature timely development is hopeless in modern day marvel. Skipping to the end is loving bullshit and it kinda blows my mind how much we're supposed to fill in with our imaginations when it comes to Bendis/Aaron x-books.
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What's the context there? Although seriously those are great panels. He looks positively aghast, and then less so in the next panel.
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mind the walrus posted:Aw I'm really sorry to hear that, because I think you're right. Having old Cyclops and Wolverine watch in horror as Young Cyclops and Rule 63 Wolverine hook up is a deliciously warped idea I wanted to see a hell of a lot more of. Bendis' plot devices are always so stupid. I need to write a note? Really? And who is delivering this note? Who isn't reading it before it goes out the door? Yeah ok. On the other hand, is that my motorcycle?
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irlZaphod posted:Like X-Men: Legacy was, X-Force is the best X-book that you're all not reading. And yes, more people should get into it. It is good. Spurrier is legitimately talented at taking his little corner of X-verse and doing something truly weird but also truly X-men.
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I think maybe you're mixing up your time browsing r34 with stuff actually implied in the comics, dude. And it's weird.
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Skwirl posted:This is actually a good example of the double standards we apply to men and women. Emma Frost is a slut because she's slept with a bunch of people, including Tony Stark and Namor. What do we call Tony Stark and Namor? Also it is really a bunch of people? It sounds like five or six. But yeah, it is pretty drat weird. Comic fans are really literal though. Really, really literal.
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No Idie and Quire are sort of parallel main characters to Storm and Wolverine in WATAX last I checked. Then again I haven't read the last issue or so, so maybe she took the bus while I wasn't paying attention. Wouldn't be surprised.
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Aphrodite posted:Didn't they cure the thing breaking powers, or were Dark Beasts nano sentinels a second, separate power breaking? X-Force meanwhile was loving awesome.
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I really liked X-Factor. I didn't necessarily think Slott hosed Quicksilver up, characters go back and forth, but this is him moving forward. This book is a nice example of what canon can do.Diet Poison posted:Magneto's solo title could really become Mutant Breaking Bad right now if it wanted to. And it really should.
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