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So every airplane has GPS now no? This one had it off? Shouldn't they have the last location that the GPS was able to transmit down to like a 4 foot square at altitude of 0 right before crash? I mean my cellphone can do it, even if battery dies I can go to a convenient website and see where it was last seen on GPS. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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abigserve posted:pretty sure they need more evidence than a loss of GPS location to be able to issue a statement about it crashing horribly into the ocean and everyone dying Yeah I know about that part. I'm just confused about CNN report that Malaysia is going to fly planes along this plane's route trying to spot something. I would assume they should know the exact location right away and could have had a plane/boat there within a few hours. Imagine the pilot miraculously lands it in water (like Hudson) and then everyone just freezes waiting there for a day+.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:59
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Well new CNN update says radar showed that plane actually turned to head back before the crash. If true that adds even more to the mystery. If you're in a catastrophic failure and in a free-fall you wouldn't be able to turn the plane to head back. I still can't believe they can have an always on WiFi on these planes but no direct stream back to the airline of the cockpit video/voice just in case.
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Mar 9, 2014 09:08
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myshl0ng posted:How can you board a plane with a stolen passport in 2014 Per news sources, Malaysian airlines did not check passports against the international blacklist database where both of these passports were flagged. Every other major airline does this. So yeah, incompetence that's how.
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Mar 9, 2014 09:43
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Knight Corgi posted:There are easier ways to go to Europe though. I mean, whether you smuggle drugs or you're a simple illegal immigrant, I guess taking a direct flight to Amsterdam would be easier (unless there's no direct flight from Malaysia, but then, you can go through Singapore instead of Beijing). That was not necessarily their objective. By having tickets to Europe meant they would not need Chinese visas. China gives you something like 3 days for free if you have tickets out of there booked. So China would let them through if they arrived. Getting a long term visa for a fake passport is extremely hard and they would have been caught. Their plan could have been getting into China with fake European passports by simply getting a quick temp transfer visa at the airport. Having tickets to Europe allowed them an opportunity to do that. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Mar 9, 2014 |
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Mar 9, 2014 22:50
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Jacobeus posted:All of the passengers and the crew simultaneously decided that they would defect from their various countries and took the plane to Antarctica or something. And Liam Neeson will star in a movie about it. Non-Stop 2: Antarctica.
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Phones still ringing but no location can be traced? They're obviously in another dimension. Case closed, move on to the next crash.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:02
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Sudden course change and a long straight flight does coincide with a theory of being intercepted by a fighter jet and then being forced to be "escorted" in a different direction. If there was a mechanical failure and they were simply turning back, they would go back towards the airport not in a random direction. They covered enough distance after the turn to make it back to their starting point if they actually wanted to. Also as seen from map linked above they did it RIGHT before crossing into Vietnam airspace which is suspicious. If Malaysian airforce was intercepting them or following them, then this would be the exact point they would instruct the plane to turn immediately or else. That way Vietnam airforce would not get involved. Malaysian jet fighter that was following/intercepting the plane would not be able to fly into that airspace. a) Why no communication? - All signal jammed by interceptor(s) b) Why fly where they did? - Take it as far away from Vietnam airspace as possible and off-radar so no one can see it and then shot the plane down. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 04:39
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Bubble-T posted:What possible reason could the Malaysian Airforce have for shooting down a passenger plane that's leaving their airspace that would also require them to have it turn around and fly back over Malaysia first. Because if they shot it down right there, the search crews would know exactly where to look. They had it turn off transponder and then escort it 100s of miles away, somewhere no one will find it. As to why? Who knows, government secrets on plane on their way to China. What better way to make paperwork or people disappear than in a tragic accident where the plane is never recovered.
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Mar 12, 2014 05:11
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'd love to know the hand signals for "turn off your transponder and follow us so we can shoot you down", since they wouldn't have been able to use radio without other planes/controllers in the area hearing them. Plane was sabotaged prior to takeoff by the Malaysian CIA where all communications were wired to go out/short circuit 30 mins into the flight just as the fighter was timed to intercept it. At that point it's just the "follow me" hand signals.
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Mar 12, 2014 05:41
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I like how what appears to be the only witnesses from the oil rig were completely ignored by Malaysian government for days and had to go to U.S. media to get their info out. The only reason the plane is not found is that because Malaysia is totally incompetent. Or they are trying not to find it on purpose. Because CIA/Aliens/China secret docs.
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Mar 12, 2014 22:35
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Al Borland posted:I'm still wagering money on blowjobs from some skeezys they brought up to impress in the cockpit. For FOUR hours? Must have been a hell of a blowjob. The arrangement for the skeezys must have been to give blowjobs to everyone on the plane, starting with first class and then moving down.
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Mar 13, 2014 17:36
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Do pilots not receive any "instruments are down" training at all? At least reading all the wiki articles makes it seems like they start behaving like a 3 year old playing with legos as soon as something breaks. What is the point of pilots at all now? I know autopilots can do takeoffs and landings easily nowadays. It seems like in 50% of cases where something goes wrong, the autopilot disengages, and then the pilots crash the plane. In other 50% of the cases, the autopilot was about to save the plane, but the pilots manually disengaged it and then crashed the plane anyway. Without pilots 50% more planes would have been saved!
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Mar 13, 2014 18:47
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The Casualty posted:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pentagon-3238713 Sooo what did the oil rig people see then? It's not like there are burning planes falling out of the sky every day. Unless the lizard terrorists created an exact copy of the plane, crashed that on the original site of contact loss, and then flew the REAL plane to their secret volcano base.
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So at what point do they give up? For boats lost at sea it's usually a week. Don't know if there is a policy for planes.
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7thBatallion posted:This is why when I fly I wear life preservers and parachutes, as well as a weeks worth of rations, flare guns, sea dye, a full survival kit, and a single teabag in a ziploc bag. Rations would be useless. Commercial airliners insta kill everyone on board when landing into any sea or ocean water. The only exception is landing into completely calm waters (large river, bay, or a lake - see Flight 1549). And when landing into a bay/lake you're right next to civilization anyway. All those lifejackets and training videos they show landing into oceans are BS made to make people feel safer.
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Mar 14, 2014 05:49
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myshl0ng posted:Have there been any serious breakthroughs in aviation safety? because it seems be it now or 30 years ago, when a plane crashes you still have the exact same chances of dying a horrible death. I guess there is not much you can do when flying in a tin can. Auto deployable full-plane parachutes come to mind. Pretty much guarantees a soft glide down if you're a rich bastard on a private plane that has one. However, these have not been yet been fitted into any commercial jets since there is no interest to pay the huge development costs to get this working on larger planes.
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Orkin Mang posted:do these actually exist? because enormous parachutes yanking a plane out of a dive sound tits Yes. Can be used if engines/electronics fail and is especially useful if terrain is not suitable for normal emergency landing. 
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Mar 26, 2014 05:24
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Ivor Biggun posted:The escape slides are the lifeboats. They are inflated to use so in a water landing you're supposed to detach them from the plane after crashing. Is there a single documented case of a large commercial airliner being able to land in open ocean water? Don't think that's physically possible. Hudson/rivers/lakes don't count.
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James Polk posted:The pilots chucked the black box out the window shortly after turning off the transponders. Then they also sawed off the RR engines that had satellite pings into the ocean, and coasted the plane to a secret island.
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SD87 posted:Are all those asian kids really dead? Not to sound cruel but, learn to swim people, it's not that hard. They were relatively close to shore with a lot of rescue boats near the ferry within an hour. Should be a required life skill honestly. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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