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illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

reignonyourparade posted:

This is part of why I think that Washington isn't really "progressive" it just doesn't approve of GOP racism and sexism and doesn't like DIRECTLY loving the poor TOO badly.

Washington's got a lot of problems, but I take solace (I go to school in Portland, but I was born in Marysville, WA) that the city of Sea-Tac voted for a $15 dollar minimum wage (which was then of course denied to people who work directly in the airport :smith:). There's popular will for change, and I think that's evident in the recent election of an unabashed socialist in the Seattle government. It's just that WA has to grapple with the same entrenched awful institutions and structures as everyone else.

OwlBot 2000 posted:

Fun fact: Seattle is the only major city of which I'm aware to have elected a radical Socialist to city council within recent memory.
Unfun fact: Idaho is full of Nazis and Libertarians.

I grew up in north-central Washington and I can say that the remote areas (Whidby Island and the cascades) have their fair share of survivalist crazies as well. Fun fact, there was a shootout on Whidby island I think a few years before I was born where the FBI fired tear gas into the cabin and then accidentally ("accidentally") set it on fire and killed the suspect, years before the same fuckin' thing happened at Waco.

illrepute fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 11, 2014

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illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW
Remember to offer thanks to the Salish pantheon for casting this aegis of foul weather that keeps the majority of the Californians at bay.

OwlBot 2000 posted:

We also have a large share of libertarian computer millionaires, and they certainly don't want a progressive tax code.

Them, and Boeing. Boeing's the source of a huge number of jobs in Washington, and everyone is afraid to take them on. Legislation to ban the use of drones in the state was stifled basically because Boeing rumbled slightly about it and people lost their nerve right quick. The airport authority probably had their complete blessing on pulling the rug out from under the Sea-Tac minimum wage movement.

Don't even get me started on the politics of southern Washington, A.K.A "the Vancouver that time forgot." You know how around large cities there are almost always exurbs full of reactionaries? It's like that with regard to Portland. The main bridge I use to visit my family in Vancouver was built almost a hundred years ago (1917), and Washington's entirely to blame for shooting down the CRC that would replace it before it sends me to the bottom of the Columbia river.

illrepute fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Mar 11, 2014

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

Ardennes posted:

The issue with the CRC was basically Vancouver and Portland have just to different of a philosophy to get anything done. Many Vancouverites were pissed that light rail was on the bridge, and many Portlandites didn't even want the a new road bridge. In addition, the bridge didn't even make sense for Oregon as a whole, Oregon would have to pay half of the state share when in reality it was mostly a commuter bridge to benefit Vancouver area commuters (as would the light rail).

Right, I don't care much about the particulars of the bridge, I just want one that isn't going to be hitting one-hundred years old, especially after all these bridge collapses around the country. Rail would've been nice, but I would take anything to improve safety.

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

Kaal posted:

I'm very curious how the national corporate chains are going to try to spin their privatization scheme in Oregon after it crashed and burned in Washington. Raise prices on booze while draining money out of the state funds and killing jobs? No thanks.

I was talking with my family after it passed and they felt like they'd been tricked. The talk was on how privatization would lower costs and make jobs, when instead the state liquor stores closed down, fired their employees, and a bunch of grocery stores started selling crappier liquor, at higher prices, without getting any new employees. Babby's first introduction to privatization.

e: The difference is geographical, also! Washington and Oregon have insanely cool different biomes. Washington's got this beautiful stretch of temperate rainforest on the Olympic peninsula; the Puget Sound, the mouth of the Columbia, hell, the Columbia river itself, and the west coast are great marine environments; the scablands in Eastern Washington have a cool history that I could rant forever about (formed by a gigantic flood after an ice dam in Montana broke and covered the entire eastern part of the state in like three-hundred feet of water that poured down the Columbia river valley), and the cascade range is super majestic. When I was living in Battle Ground I could see Mt. St. Helens from my driveway.

illrepute fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 11, 2014

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW
Yeah, I don't think it's cool for the community to be cracking down on a group of people just because they happen to follow an unpopular religion, but because the Rajneeshees committed domestic bioterrorism they're not a group I defend often.

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Every time some Vancouverite wrote a letter to the editor or whined on TV about how light rail would bring "crime" into Vancouver, I couldn't help but think that what they were really trying to say was "don't want them black people 'round here!"

That's basically it. Vancouver's got plenty of fine folks in it, but man do the white-flighters give the rest a bad rap.

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

SedanChair posted:

I filled out my ballot and put a stamp on the envelope a week in advance. Then I forgot. Death to me.

We've all been there at least once. Here's your complementary albatross and depression lamp.

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW
Where's the best place to buy beer in Portland? Anyone know? And for that matter, what's a good choice for someone who has no idea how to be a beer snob yet?

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illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

Kaal posted:

Well the I-205 bridge is one of the worst-rated in the nation (worse than several that have subsequently collapsed), so it will definitely be shut down one way or the other. The I-5 bridges aren't much better, and definitely will need replacement as well. And according to transit engineers, the problems are so severe that it is more cost-effective to replace the bridge entirely (i.e. How the CRC would have replaced the Interstate Bridge) than to attempt repairing them.

We're going to die on that bridge together, Kaal. I'm so sorry.

That death trap will claim us all.

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