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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:And regardless of how lovely the caste system is, ultimately you're arguing from a stance of cultural superiority here, aren't you? If the argument is that western liberal democratic societies are superior to a caste system, I don't see what the problem is here.
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Can we agree that raping people, burning widows and throwing bodies into a sacred river is bad? Because if so, the culture that doesn't endorse those things is superior.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:53
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computer parts posted:What exactly does a culture have to do in order to endorse an action? I don't know what exactly, but there is a point somewhere where throwing a corpse in the Hudson river is not okay, and burning widows in Central Park would not be a popular custom.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:59
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Look, even if you would like to blame the evil British for all India's problems, making excuses for India for cultural reasons is seriously hosed up. Compare the culture of Britain and India today and you'll see a lot of problems that can't be explained away with Imperialism or Capitalism.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:52
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Wanamingo posted:Well so what? Miltank posted:those societies are bad and should change.
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Mar 12, 2014 05:12
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Conversion to Islam or Buddhism.
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Mar 12, 2014 05:27
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Is the sacred river / drinking supply listed as one of the places you shouldn't poo poo, or does the Ganges mystical powers take care of that?
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Mar 12, 2014 06:22
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So because the USA and the UK have ghettos where bad things happen, bad things happening on a much larger scale, being led by public figures and going largely unpunished in India is okay? Because there are people with more money than other people in the USA and the UK, a religiously enforced caste system that condemns people from cradle to the grave to horrible suffering in India is okay? Because a few people in the USA and UK didn't give their kids vaccinations for dumb reasons is okay, the holy river being used as a sewer/cemetery, while also being the drinking supply for millions is totally acceptable? Gosh people in glass houses sure shouldn't throw stones. There's nothing in Indian culture that can be criticized because things are so bad in the West.
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Mar 12, 2014 16:31
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A lovely corrupt country divided on ethnic lines and with no history of central government is definitely the place for the Marxist Utopia.
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Mar 12, 2014 17:04
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It was worse before the British got there. I'm just glad that the roads and railroads got built and cities were established. Who knows what India would be like without Calcutta and Bombay? India would have benefitted like Hong Kong if the British had stayed until the 90's. Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 18:04
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The British tried to centralize and secularize India with famines and you all whine about it. Look who was right. 
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Mar 13, 2014 02:52
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I think that if the British had stayed for one or two more generations, like in Hong Kong, they might have made lasting progress and change possible in India. I'm not defending the actions of the Empire in 1857, but by 1967 the British were radically different in their attitudes towards the colonies. Keep in mind that by this time Rhodesia and South Africa had both been strongly criticized for their racial policies, and had left the Commonwealth.
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Mar 13, 2014 04:05
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The Walking Dad posted:Other than that leave India the hell alone and fix the problems in your own country. Until we achieve the Worker's Paradise, who are we to criticize throwing bodies in the water supply, massive corruption, hardly any rule of law, and of course all that rape?
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Mar 13, 2014 15:03
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Thundercracker posted:If you listen to any of this, listen to this: In the West, doing nothing is actually far far braver than doing something. The idea that doing nothing is the easiest path in Western/American society is a complete lie. Cool let's all sit on our hands. There is nothing Indians can learn from Western society.
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