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Tatum Girlparts posted:Islam is not misogynistic but, say, the current culture in Saudi Arabia is, and as a culture that oppresses people systematically it's inferior to one that provides equal rights and protection. I don't see the problem in making the statement specific. I agree 'Islam is misogynistic' is a wrong thing to say but in the other case I'm talking about a specific place that I don't think anyone can argue isn't misogynistic? I think the problem is that what you're going for is that part of the culture that is misogynistic or perpetrates misgyny like for the example the analogue you made with a female sexual assualt victim seeking help while I think the notion he was going for that the culture as whole(everything from history, language, cuisine etc.) can't collectively be decided as being inferior, no one here is arguing that the misogyno perpetrated in that specific culture is somehow better than a more equal culture. Edit: Miltank posted:actually every culture on earth is misogynistic to a degree so whatever. Indeed and it isn't so much who is better but who's less worse in that regard.
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OwlBot 2000 posted:Obviously we can't change history, and there's no reason I can think of to change cuisine or even language (except in some very rural areas) so it's pretty clear people are talking about backwards religious and cultural practices with respect to women's position in society when they say there's problems with Indian culture. You seem to have misunderstood me, what I meant was that stupid backwards rear end poo poo needs to change but like computer parts said earlier that when you start saying "X culture is inferior/superior to Y culture" it may signal some alarms as it's the same type of rhethoric spewn by colonialism apologists/whiteman burden, that and lately I've had to dealt with some really annoying islamophobes(the ones who thinks guys like Roberts Spencer are telling the truth) which is why I get my eye twitching when I read something along those lines. P.S. One interesting thing is that they'll argue for women rights when it suits them but as soon as someone mentions feminism they almost instantly put their MRA-fedoras on. Sorry for the derail btw.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Wow, that was a lot of words to not answer a question. Although I'm tired of the white man's burden apologetics, if you really cared that much about the UN being used by powerful imperialist(I don't deny that btw) purposes why don't go and make an OP discussing the UN how it's good, bad and how it gets used by powerful nations to further their own goals and what you can do to prevent it, ex. Change it, remove it or replace. There I'v already made half the work for you now why don't you go and start that OP instead of cluttering up this GBS/DnD hybrid thread.
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