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As another point of comparison, early Part 3 is proliferated with loudly-declared "Signature moves" such as Star Finger, Emerald Splash, and Crossfire Hurricane, of which only Emerald Splash ever sees much use again. Araki's "Board game" approach to Part 3 was, itself, an attempt to dodge the dreaded power pyramid associated with most tournament arcs, so you really do get a sense of him playing around with the tropes of his day only to refine or discard them. Additionally, as Part 3 goes on, there's also an increased emphasis on enemy stand users. Early you on you get a lot of fights like Tower of Gray or Dark Blue Moon where the identity of the user is a secret, but not particularly important to the fight itself. A lot of them don't even get named except in supplementary materials, and their personalities are suitably one-note. Gradually though, Araki starts penning more memorable villains who participate in the fight, whose personalities are instrumental to the flow of things, rather than just the roots by which a particular random encounter is relevant to the story. In the official English release of the manga, pre-Egypt chapters tend to refer exclusively to the name of the featured stand, after which chapters name the stand and the user (and sometimes even just the user). Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Exactly.Hobgoblin2099 posted:Compare that to N'Doul using sound to guide his Stand, Oingo and Boingo needing to handle fights directly due to their Stands' lack of offensive capabilities, or Anubis, and you can see there's a marked difference. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Feb 9, 2015 |
# ¿ Feb 9, 2015 00:45 |
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Also a lot of nods to various horror movies.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2015 05:27 |
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Off the top of my head: Tower of Gray - Alien (its tongue attack) Dark Blue Moon - Creature From the Black Lagoon Strength - Some haunted ship movie I can't recall Ebony Devil - Child's Play Yellow Temperance, the Empress - The Blob Wheel of Fortune - Various killer car movies (think Death Proof but older) Justice - Night of the Living Dead The Lovers - Fantastic Voyage (though not explicitly a horror movie) Death XIII - Nightmare on Elm Street Araki loves horror movies. Dude even wrote a book about them, by which I mean a for real no funny pictures book.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2015 06:34 |
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My money's on six episodes, though I guess they could squeeze it into five. There's quite a bit going on.Kurtofan posted:( the story arc is 16 chapters long, for reference).
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 01:18 |
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It's almost like Joseph's third-most defining character trait is laziness.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2015 23:40 |
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Joseph operates on the same logic that lets you pull a tablecloth out from under a pile of dishes without disturbing the pile.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 22:30 |
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The horror movie influences start to die down around Egypt, though there's a great one coming up in the next fight.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2015 05:01 |
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Vel posted:If you want to see this on steroids, check out these fansubbers (and people who can't speak japanese) insisting that 'nakama' has some deep personal meaning for the characters in One Piece. It's hilarious. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Nakama_Translation First response: "Name! Name!" EDIT: Reading through the nakama discussion, I like how the one guy who presumably actually speaks/reads Japanese is capable of giving coherent arguments why it should be translated, after which some other guy comes in, "Yeah, well, it seems most of us want to keep it, so majority rules." Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Waffleman_ posted:I think we as a fandom have accepted that if Jojo's going to be a thing in America, name changes have to happen, and most people generally don't mind anymore.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 21:00 |
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Zeruel posted:Is there a rough estimate of how many episodes we have left? There are some upcoming「fights」that I'm really quite excited for.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2015 03:06 |
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It was the 80s. For all Jotaro knew, Polnareff was just a trendster.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2015 21:28 |
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:i'm genuinely surprised that this is two episodes. they really could have squeezed it into one, especially if there hadn't been so much weird filler.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2015 09:24 |
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I always liked how Alessi hitting Shadow Dio turned him into severed-head Dio with Wang Chung for leg support.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 06:02 |
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Zeruel posted:Wait I need it to be clearer: is Polnareff representative of children or big business
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2015 08:27 |
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There's actually a pretty interesting doujin where Dio succeeds in his plan to use the stone mask on Jonathan, turning him into a vampire. Jonathan runs away from home to avoid endangering anyone, wrestling with his new nature, while Dio gets the inheritance as planned, but is constantly paranoid Jonathan will return to take revenge.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 00:32 |
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Araki stated in an interview somewhere he's got up to Part 9 planned out in his head, so who knows.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 02:50 |
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It's also infamously traced.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 04:10 |
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Niel posted:Huh, this sounds interesting. What's the title of it?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 04:43 |
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Sekkira posted:Going on the OVA, I thought the next fight was going to be a single episode. I wonder how much filler is going to be put in to stretch it out to 2 or more episodes or how much was actually cut out of the OVA to make it 1 episode's worth. That said, there was a scene I expected this week that didn't happen, making me think well get it next week to fill in some time.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 06:30 |
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Sekkira posted:The OVA spent 7-8 minutes on the credits and intro as well, so I can see how you could fit the next into a single episode. I can also see how some parts could be added for filler to stretch it out to 2 and still not outlive its welcome. But there's not really much point in either of us arguing about it since they already confirmed it's a two-parter. Throw in the scene some of us were expecting last week and it'll easily fill the time slot. They wouldn't even need filler.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2015 19:58 |
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised to learn Joseph completely neglected his hamon training between Cars' defeat and Dio's return. Not like any vampires popped up in the interim requiring his delicate touch. Then the Speedwagon Foundation finds Dio's coffin and, "Oh man, gotta remember how to do this, breathe in, breathe out." I've seen a lot of people rag on this bit but
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2015 23:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zXzzSxlDoo
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 21:54 |
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With Dio out of the picture Jonathan finally gets around to the day-to-day perils of managing his dwindling estate. This fall: Joestar Abbey.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2015 10:51 |
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Senor Candle posted:Also why is Dan of Steel the one that really gets your goat? It's still pretty recognizable at least
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 00:07 |
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I always call him ACDC since he's pretty unambiguously named after the band. That said, Esidesi's a clever way to keep the reference without getting caught up in red tape so it gets my stamp of approval.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 08:35 |
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Esidesi and ACDC are pronounced functionally the same. If it's a matter of typing it out, I'll take the low road.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 10:59 |
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:E. definitely stands for Edward. O. could stand for Outrageous for all we know.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 17:38 |
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Araki took the Fist of the North Star theme to heart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5cVumvzY5c
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 20:47 |
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2015 08:19 |
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2015 21:21 |
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Excuse me but the Hotline Miami 2 thread is in the games subforum thank you.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 01:06 |
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Yeah man, that's five of a kind. Wild card. Some versions of Poker don't allow for it but D'Arby considered it a possible hand for Jotaro to have so I guess he okay'd it.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 03:53 |
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I have no idea how anyone can consider the new anime the definitive version when it doesn't even have the Aztec sacrifice scene at the beginning.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 08:40 |
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Aurain posted:The same will probably be true for the other remaining OVA > Anime fights, even though the anime will always remain faithful.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 21:29 |
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WickedHate posted:The OVA also cut out a lot of the card game padding and got straight to the point.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2015 20:09 |
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The original Jojo adaptation (OVA episodes 8-13) was the product of a time when it was assumed your prospective audience was already familiar with the source material and just wanted to see some of their favorite bits animated. Consequently, bringing this stuff overseas sacrificed a lot of context as more often then not we were denied the bigger picture. Another example of this would be Teito Monogatari, better known in the West as Doomed Megalopolis, an attempt to cram the better part of a 10-volume "Not even remotely a picture book" novel series into four 40-minute episodes.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2015 00:23 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Doomed Megalopolis was great and made sense to me but then I also happily watched the original JoJo OAV knowing only that and what I gleaned from the Capcom fighting game. "Why didn't they just fly to Egypt?" is a pretty insignificant question in the grand scheme of a series dedicated to meeting new people and beating them up, but it's that kind of lingering plot thread or absent explanation some people are bound to complain about.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2015 00:45 |
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:There are no bad Jojo episodes.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2015 04:10 |
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Alessi was outsmarted and outmaneuvered by a literal child. Outsmarted and outmaneuvered by kid Polnareff.
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