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I don't know everything about lunix but I understand that X11 has some old, old design decisions that make certain modern display tasks inefficient or impossible, which is reason enough to move on to something better. besides if wayland has adequate backwards compatibility who the gently caress cares. nobody complains that win16 code doesn't run anymore, except morons
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May 27, 2014 15:59
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Xwayland is literally just the current X11 server code, except display is redirected to a wayland window instead of the kernel. you don't need to compile against any different libraries or make any changes but let's keep making up poo poo to justify our curmudgeonliness, it's fun
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May 27, 2014 16:11
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Suspicious Dish posted:The only way to do a notification in X11 that I know of is _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION, which is part of the EWMH, not the ICCCM, and simply means "make the taskbar button blink". Most DEs don't support that anymore because apps abused it way too much, but for the ones that do I see no reason why it wouldn't continue to work under Xwayland. what's the deal with this anyway. you get blinky taskbar buttons in windows and bouncing dock icons in osx, and it conveys information in a way I've grown accustomed to. when I try to use, for instance, steam on linux, I don't get any indication that I have unread messages like on windows/osx which makes it a lot harder to use and is sort of a dealbreaker for me using linux as a serious windows replacement (aside from numerous other dealbreakers)
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Suspicious Dish posted:I have the opposite experience on Windows. Skype is constantly blinking at me and I can never get the little "1" indicator to go away. Steam always has some form of weird progress bar overlay in the icon on W7, and I can't ever figure out how to get it to just go back to a normal icon. I probably don't get a high volume of messages compared to other users, usually when a window begs for attention I have the time to respond right away, so I like to keep up with it. also I still keep my taskbar in the win95/winXP style, so my steam messages window has a separate taskbar button and thus calls for attention separately from the main steam client. also the progress bar thing steam does means it's updating a game, and I like to keep up on that poo poo too other annoyances? Linux still lacks a decent music player I guess, unless there's something better than rhythmbox now. rhythmbox can't properly play albums gaplessly still. I used to use musicPD for that but I had to encode albums with ogg vorbis because mp3 frame size limits meant there were always small gaps at the end of a file. I use iTunes mainly because it works properly w/ my iPod and also has fairly good gap detection. whenever I try to manage my iPod w/ non-Apple software it loses all the gapless metadata for some reason lots of hobby audio apps like famitracker or modplug tracker don't have equivalents on linux, or the equivalents are laughably incomplete, and running them under wine introduces massive lag. this is app inertia I guess also I used to use gaim/pidgin all the time but I've come to like trillian a lot better. I think there's a linux version of that now though, haven't tried it yet. using pidgin or empathy always makes me feel short-changed because it doesn't work like trillian 3D performance is MASSIVELY reduced in linux, but this is probably because of lovely AMD drivers. nouveau works with my video card but only supports a small subset of card features and programs can crash if they load too many textures or something like that when I was younger I used linux religiously (gentoo lol) and I still use it on servers all the time, but for desktop stuff I've gotten used to windows/osx "just working". I use mingw for microcontroller dev on windows though because I don't like the big IDEs
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May 27, 2014 17:00
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I've been getting used to CentOS/yum lately, I think I might install a fedora Vm today and see how gnome3 is going on that
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May 28, 2014 19:36
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Jun 14, 2014 00:29
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there's a lot of linux on my desk right now
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Aug 14, 2014 18:02
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Mr Dog posted:yeah and it's also the only os that will run poo poo they want to run if they're buying a computer mr. dog it seems to me like suspicious dish's company has done a lot more market research than you and you're bitter for some reason 
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Aug 31, 2014 18:54
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well the OLPC was a piece of poo poo and also it was being sold to places that didn't have electricity or water or chairs it's not the same
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Aug 31, 2014 19:44
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hey if I were gonna install linux on a spare partition, just for laughs, which one should I use as of today?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:33
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I already have a mac. I recently cleared off a drive so I could do a clean install of windows to troubleshoot something, so now I have a spare partition also I have installed gentoo in the past and used to be a fervent user of it but it's too much hassle nowadays (and bad)
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Nov 6, 2014 22:52
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last time I tried arch I had a hell of a time getting the fonts to look presentable but hey I'll give it a go. been using centos and debian at work mostly
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Nov 6, 2014 23:29
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maybe I'm just curious to see what C&P likes about Arch because I've already used debian/ubuntu/fedora/centos pretty extensively vOv
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Nov 7, 2014 06:49
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I'm gonna install arch
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Nov 12, 2014 00:03
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gnome 2 is incredibly dated
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Nov 12, 2014 01:11
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it's pronounced genome
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Nov 12, 2014 03:30
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I'm installing arch right now. I'm pretty sure I used it before but I don't remember any of this
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Nov 13, 2014 09:15
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because I'm bored and I want to see the freshest packages
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Nov 13, 2014 20:39
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just got GNOME/Firefox up and running after learning the new systemd thing (what was wrong with system V style scripts??) fonts lmao
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Nov 13, 2014 21:10
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tho i'll tbh this is way way better at scrolling screen content than wandows. buttery smooth.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:11
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sounds like I don't really want to know
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Nov 13, 2014 21:17
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neither does windows, if you're running the correct version
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Nov 13, 2014 21:55
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what if you're a big nerd
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Nov 13, 2014 22:17
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ok I'm bored w/ desktop linux already. only game I could get working was Europa Universalis IV
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Nov 14, 2014 01:12
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Linux Alternatives To Adobe Illustrator Skencil (http://www.skencil.org/) Xara Xtreme for Linux (http://www.xaraxtreme.org/) sK1 Project (http://ww.sk1project.org/) Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/)
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Nov 14, 2014 01:29
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I tried out mumble and apparently my audio is "crackly"
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Nov 15, 2014 20:49
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also I got dota 2 to work alright by turning all the graphics settings down, apparently it has really bad memory management on linux
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Nov 15, 2014 20:49
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yeah the performance is just as good as windows w/ my nvidia. just it has a very high chance of running out of memory if you don't turn off the advanced graphics features.
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Nov 15, 2014 21:12
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TF2 was one of the first games they ported to linux
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Nov 15, 2014 23:55
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VMware
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Dec 17, 2014 00:26
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I think it might be time for my bi-annual Linux installation (got tired of win10 preview), which flavor should I try? I used arch last time at the behest of c&p but I think I might like to try something different this time how's ubuntu doing? fedora? I've been using debian and centos for work VMs but they're really not representative of a good desktop distro mint?
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Mar 17, 2015 06:10
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the mouse acceleration is all hosed up in fedora 21
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Mar 17, 2015 09:14
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fixed the mouse but I have to run a script on startup. also had to do some fuckery to get steam working correctly. graphics tablet only working as a basic pointing device, but that might just be because it's an off brand thing. so far, ehhhhhh, but at least it's less work than setting up arch
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Celexi posted:My mouse is fine and all i had to do to get steam was install it from rpmfusion yeah steam was complaining that it didn't have direct rendering, I had to delete a couple of its local libraries and install the fedora versions. what kind of graphics card are you using? mine's an nvidia the mouse problem might be a logitech thing, it seems to have been around a while too. I have to change the device properties with xinput but then it's fine. I tried updating the system with the gui software updater, but somehow it didn't acknowledge the updates were applied, and kept telling me to update but then giving an error that the packages were already installed. running a yum update fixed it though. nice OS you got here
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i did have to add a selinux exception for dota 2 as it couldn't access some sound resource.
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bobbilljim posted:You are kidding arent you ? 
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I installed ubuntu & then installed the nvidia driver from the software updater. after logging out & back in, unity wouldn't come back up and I couldn't drop down to a virtual terminal either (though I could go to the vga console). I don't think I'll be using ubuntu.
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