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| Valentino Rossi |
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13 | 19.40% |
| Jorge Lorenzo |
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13 | 19.40% |
| Dani Pedrosa |
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8 | 11.94% |
| Marc Marquez |
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33 | 49.25% |
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Miller appears to be doing a bit of what MM was doing a few years ago in moto2. Miller's KTM was clearly slower than the Hondas out there. He was doing everything in his power to win the race and gently caress up AM. MM had to do similar things on his Suter because it was not as good at the Kalex bikes he was competing with. If anything the weaving that was going on in certain parts of the tracks imho seems more objectionable than block passing people. I think Miller is showing why he's being given a GP ride next year. He's not only fast, he's a smart racer and willing to race hard to win. Everyone was saying that when Marquez got to GP he'd get taught a lesson, that isn't really how things turned out...
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Oct 28, 2014 08:19
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So what is the Honda plan? Miller shows up next year and proves himself, Pedrosa gone. He doesn't show himself off and he's another also ran eh? After 2016 if Miller doesn't take it to MM, the double Marquez Repsol Honda Team? I don't envy the young riders looking for a competitive MotoGP ride. They're competing with a middle-aged race-winning hero in the era where you have to be 20 and amazing to attract attention.
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Oct 28, 2014 08:35
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Marcy Marq really hosed up the rookie bar. It's no longer enough to come in, learn the bikes, learn the field, have a mid-pack first year and slowly progress forward into steady top-5s. It used to be commendable if a rookie finished 5th, but good can't follow great. I wonder if we'll see higher turnover in the next few years as all the factories cycle through talent looking for the next record-setter?
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Oct 28, 2014 15:44
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Marcy Marq really hosed up the rookie bar. It's no longer enough to come in, learn the bikes, learn the field, have a mid-pack first year and slowly progress forward into steady top-5s. It used to be commendable if a rookie finished 5th, but good can't follow great. Yeah this is kind of what Smith is doing right now (just got his first podium) and it just looks bad following Marquez. And Marquez got in MotoGP after him, I'm sure!
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Oct 28, 2014 15:59
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Surely everybody figures that Marquez is pretty much a freak at this point and is kind of resigned to nobody being likely to be able to touch him consistently any time real soon? I mean, it'd be great for Miller to come up and give him a run for his money but I don't think that's really that likely.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:23
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Do you want to touch him consistently real soon?
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Oct 28, 2014 21:24
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Ya'll are forgetting that when Pedrosa and Lorenzo came into GP they were owning right off the bat. Spies was drat fast right off the bat as well despite it not turning out as well for him. Most guys that show up these days and are mid pack seem to stay mid pack. The reason they stay in GP is usually because they have the proper passport to help sell the race in their home country. The PI race has seen lovely attendance since Stoner left the scene. Getting Miller to to the top class will help sell that race. I think what we'll start seeing moto3 riders getting promoted to open class bikes more often. The path they will follow will probably be similar to Scott Redding's path where if you're winning open class you'll get a real factory bike eventually.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:30
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PI may have other issues too, there is some backlash at present over what a complete pack of arseholes Victoria Police are to those who ride in to watch the race. It sounds like this year was particularly bad, with people detained by the roadside and defected for trivial issues or even stock parts of their bikes, and generally harassed. The NSW Motorcycle Council (or something like that) just released a message to the Victorian Gov't telling them to knock it off.
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Oct 28, 2014 23:08
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Victoria is unironically Australia's fascist state when it comes to road rules. It's totally unnecessary. Every day before I start my bike I utter a small prayer of thanks that I don't live there. In my state, here is how the police behave: I bought a 1000cc motorcycle just over a year ago. In December last year, I was riding to work, and thinking about the fact that I'd never been pulled over while on a motorcycle in the 3 and a half years I'd been riding. As if by magic, a cop car turns up behind me and pulls me over. A male and female cop step out of the car and I take my helmet off. They politely informed me that my bike was unregistered as it had expired a week ago. My heart sunk at the thought of a $1000+ fine. I explained that I had purchased the bike 2 months earlier, and that I hadn't received the renewal notice, likely because of the recent change of ownership. The cops very kindly let me off with a written warning and I paid the registration as soon as I got to work. Yay nice cops.
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Oct 28, 2014 23:23
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Pics / Story on Casey testing the new RC213V up on motomatters. Regardless of what you may think of Casey personally, it's got to make everyone miss the dude racing. The championship imho has been pretty good this year, but with Casey riding it'd just be that much better.
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Oct 31, 2014 17:14
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http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/10/30/casey_stoner_wraps_up_two_day_test_for_h.html
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Oct 31, 2014 17:36
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I feel so bad for being a Stoner hater back in the day.
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Nov 1, 2014 03:04
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If you care at all about rider personalities then you should be watching WWF/WWE not motorcycle racing.
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Nov 1, 2014 03:25
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I like Rossi he's fun.
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Nov 1, 2014 04:02
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hayden. posted:I feel so bad for being a Stoner hater back in the day. Rossi was the hero that needed a villian and Stoner was the best villian. Every other one wasn't able to actually take the fight to him. Biaggi and Gibernau were 2nd placers. Stoner was actually a contender so Rossi's media machine turned him into the ultimate guy you love to hate.
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Nov 1, 2014 04:09
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It helped that Stoner famously did not give a gently caress about the media. Dude just wanted to go fast.
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Nov 1, 2014 04:15
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Indeed, and Rossi is a shrewd motherfucker who knew how to play into it perfectly.
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Nov 1, 2014 05:00
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I've always found Casey and Dani to be the most interesting personalities in the last however many years. Everyone else, with the exception of Marc, seems to be looking for the spotlight and adulation. Casey and Dani just seem to want to race and go home without the need to impress everyone. Their drive seems purely internal. Marc is similar, except that he doesn't mind being in the spotlight. Dude is just happy riding a bike and his attitude is the same whether he knows he has a camera/crowd/whatever looking at him or not.
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Nov 1, 2014 14:23
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So Sylvain Guintoli won the superbike championship somewhat unexpectedly in my mind. I thought Tom Sykes was going to go out and get a double or at least do better but he didn't and is now having a bit of a tantrum on Twitter about his teammate. If he hadn't gave up 50 points in three rounds he wouldn't have to worry about 1 DNF IMO. Incidentally Guintoli has signed on to race for Pata Honda next year and the rumor is that they will be racing the newly homologated production MotoGP bike that is maybe finally getting released instead of the old as dirt CBR1000RR. Guintoli may have made another excellent decision for changing teams right along side forsaking his verbal agreement with Suzuki to go to Aprilia.
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Nov 4, 2014 01:57
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Guitoli's pace in Qatar was really good though, having him winning the race wasn't unexpected. What was unexpected to me was how Melandri couldn't keep up with the front pack, and how Sykes pooped a 40 point lead in what, 3 races?
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Nov 4, 2014 03:16
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I didn't pay attention to the practice times so I was suprised, more so because Guintoli has never dominated a race weekend like that before. I expected him to wilt under the pressure even though I wanted him to win.
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Nov 4, 2014 03:52
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I took advantage of the last round special the buy the MotoGP and I feel a bit dumb for not doing it earlier. I should have bit the bullet and bought it after Channel 10 sold their rights to Foxtel just before the first round. Moto3 was super entertaining. I'd forgotten how entertaining it is.
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Nov 9, 2014 12:21
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Hopefully Marc stops crashing. I wan to see if he can still get 2nd in the championship at 35... Go Rossi getting second. Another thing, Marc does seem to have a personality and seems genuinely happy with the entire experience, the riding, the fans, everything. I'm hoping that along with a long career in GP the guy actually is the force of personality that Rossi has that other riders like Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa never seemed to capture. The whole series needs someone like that to keep viewership, and attendance at the races going. Next year there's going to be Suzuki(if they can keep a motor going) and Aprillia. Hopefully it'll be a pretty full grid and the racing we've been seeing continues or gets even tighter. Skreemer fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Nov 9, 2014 |
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Nov 9, 2014 14:53
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I don't know how some of you think rider personality isn't a factor in enjoying their racing, you might as well watch robots riding camels if you don't care about the interpersonal poo poo between the riders. edit: I cant wait for the newest sour faced aussie to come to motogp, If you thought Marquez pulled some hare brained passes in his career Miller is a thug on the track when things aren't going his way
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Nov 9, 2014 15:16
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Good season. Would be cool in a couple years if the Marquez brothers race each other in MotoGP. Really disheartening finish for Lorenzo, what a crappy way to finish the season. He sort of had to do it, though.
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Nov 9, 2014 22:05
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What a fun season. That moto3 race was worth the price of admission alone.
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Nov 10, 2014 02:19
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echomadman posted:you might as well watch robots riding camels
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Nov 10, 2014 04:05
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echomadman posted:I don't know how some of you think rider personality isn't a factor in enjoying their racing, you might as well watch robots riding camels if you don't care about the interpersonal poo poo between the riders. I enjoyed the part where Miller basically flipped Marquez off after the race. I'm going to guess he'll be the next Aussie whiner/bad guy like Stoner was. I'd wager that Miller will not give a poo poo if that's the case. When he and Marquez got punted about 6 spots back the riding he did back to the front was flat out amazing.
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Nov 10, 2014 16:44
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For those that don't follow the testing, this is the results for the top ten at the Valencia tests days 3 1 MARQUEZ M. Repsol Honda Team 1:30.973 2 PEDROSA D. Repsol Honda Team +0.146 3 LORENZO J. Movistar Yamaha MotoGP +0.191 4 ESPARGARO P. Monster Yamaha Tech 3 +0.315 5 ROSSI V. Movistar Yamaha MotoGP +0.328 6 SMITH B. Monster Yamaha Tech 3 +0.392 7 PETRUCCI D. Pramac Racing +0.692 8 CRUTCHLOW C. CWM LCR Honda +0.801 9 HERNANDEZ Y. Energy T.I. Pramac Racing +0.941 10 ESPARGARO A. Team Suzuki MotoGP +1.000 It's about what you would expect, but I'm glad to see the numbers fairly close. I'd like 7 through 10 to be a bit closer, but we all know that race pace and practice are usually fairly different. I'm also glad to see a good mix of riders and bikes. For the most part it's the same manufacturers, but having the Monster and Pramac teams in the mix gives me some hope for the coming season.
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Nov 13, 2014 08:38
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n8r posted:I enjoyed the part where Miller basically flipped Marquez off after the race. I'm going to guess he'll be the next Aussie whiner/bad guy like Stoner was. I thought he congratulated Marquez and flipped off Rins.?
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Nov 13, 2014 09:15
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Skreemer posted:For those that don't follow the testing, this is the results for the top ten at the Valencia tests days 3
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Nov 13, 2014 19:07
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How is it that Rossi's ability to qualify sucks compared to his ability to have a competitive race pace?
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Nov 14, 2014 03:36
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hayden. posted:How is it that Rossi's ability to qualify sucks compared to his ability to have a competitive race pace? Kinda like how Marquez can win even though he's a horrible starter.
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Nov 14, 2014 04:12
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Rossi doesn't like the new qualifying format. He liked to build up or something.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FRE_HZnI9c If MotoGP had racing like this I'd actually watch it...
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Nov 14, 2014 15:05
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BlackMK4 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FRE_HZnI9c Watch Moto3, then, and you can see 10 guys racing like that, fighting for first, the whole race, every race. It was amazing this year.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:31
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Some of the Rossi vs. Marquez races were close this year too. Like the Qatar opener.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:37
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You do see that kind of racing....in the mid field of moto3. Trading places every corner cause of mistakes or just straight block passes that slow them both down. Meanwhile the race leader says 'see ya' at the front and at the same time they get caught up by the people behind them. With half the race to go. Yeah, the reason you don't see that in GP is cause they get weeded out of the moto3 midfield if they can't learn race strategy and by the time they make it up to GP the dumb mistakes they make on track are few and far between. Don't get me wrong, it's kinda fun to watch, but you're kinda saying you'd watch the top tier of bike racing if only they'd dumb themselves down to lower levels.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:47
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Yah definitely nothing like that ever happens in GP...
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Nov 14, 2014 17:21
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BlackMK4 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FRE_HZnI9c There are a lot of fights like this in the GP class, usually it's just place 4 or 5 or 6 and lower. Unfortunately those battles almost never get shown. Also with the numbe of years in this class that most of the riders have, they've pretty much sorted out how each other rides. This year I think some of the lower battles in the GP class will be pretty entertaining. Aprillia is back, Suzuki is back, Tech3 has always had strong showings, Ducati is now getting in the mix. There are a few new riders, and some riders are switching teams. Next year it'll be even more entertaining when the whole field switched to a new tire manufacturer. Maybe we need a new Simoncelli. A guy that can wrestle a mostly decent bike to the front of the pack and spoil things for the leaders from time to time. Unfortunately Rossi is getting old, Lorenzo can't seem to adapt as well when new things are thrown his way during a race, Predosa is terminally and also ran and Marquez is just too drat good. Take a watch at Moto3 as suggested though. A lot of younger guys and up and comers sometimes literally fighting for a spot and there are sometime huge spoilers. One of my favorite riders is Romano Fenati who can seem to run with the front runners but for some reason just can't stay consistent enough race to race in order to challenge for the overall title. Skreemer fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Nov 15, 2014 |
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