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Singapore is also remarkably uncorrupt for an authoritarian country. But its officials are also paid absurd amounts of money over the table.
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Bloodnose posted:Singapore is also remarkably uncorrupt for an authoritarian country. But its officials are also paid absurd amounts of money over the table. Hong Kong is also technically authoritarian since most of the important officials are unelected and Hong Kong is... mostly not corrupt. I guess we've got shitloads of crony capitalism but it's not quite the same thing as directly taking state money and running away with it.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:52
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China has an assload of noveau riches though. Almost everyone who's super rich in China today grew up eating dirt for breakfast. The problem is that as soon as they got rich the first thing they did was buy officials and cement their wealth and create an insane wealth gap. But they're certainly not part of an entrenched elite landlord class like in southeast Asia. Which might honestly make Chinese elites worse. They don't have the tradition excuse.
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Jun 12, 2014 19:37
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Yeah I don't care about that Rome crap but tell us more about the princeling and the girl you were banging or whatever.
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Jun 12, 2014 20:54
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It obviously depends entirely on the system of government, but China has a lengthy tradition of strong central government and it'd be a surprise to me if a democratic China was set up to be a federation.
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Oct 22, 2014 05:29
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whatever7 posted:After Israel, the most democratic country in Middle East is Iran, and it got the shittiest treatment from the US. You've really drunk the mainland kool-aid if you think Iran is democratic at all. It's exactly as democratic as the proposal for Hong Kong's 2017 election. Like that election proposal looks totally modeled after Iran's election model. And it's undemocratic enough to cause an umbrella revolution.
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Oct 22, 2014 05:34
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Turkey is generally considered Europe, Azerbaijan could debatably fit there in the Caucuses. I was also thinking about Lebanon but don't know enough about it and I thought Tunisia didn't turn out that well after their revolution but is decidedly in Africa anyway.
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Oct 22, 2014 05:49
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Buying mainland stocks that aren't (i.e. can't because they can't/don't want to meet reporting and governance requirements) listed in Hong Kong is not investing. It's gambling. Even more than playing stocks is already gambling. Mainland stock markets are almost literally casinos because everything about the listed companies is completely opaque. It's why valuations are so low there and why there have been barely any mainland buyers taking advantage of the Through Train. It's all been Hong Kongers going the other way for some stupid reason.
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Dec 8, 2014 03:33
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My Imaginary GF has a really weird fascination with purges. I think he might have a purge fetish. He brings them up in every post about China.
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Dec 14, 2014 00:24
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My Imaginary GF posted:There is an ongoing purge, no matter what PRC deigns to call it. I'm expecting it to hit Macau soon. Macau is a Special Administrative Region that operates on a different legal and political system from the mainland. You've been having trouble understanding this with regard to Hong Kong too. I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. There are no Communist Party members in the Hong Kong or Macau governments. There is no Communist Party in either territory's political system. They don't purge in those territories. It doesn't happen. Unless you mean an economic hit, in which case, welcome to months ago. Gambling revenue reports are out and they've already indicated the first drop in the rake since the liberalization of casino licenses.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:44
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They still operate on different systems. Beijing doesn't purge SAR officials. When Tung hosed up in 2003 he was quickly retired for health reasons and given a seat on the CPPCC. For whatever dumb reason he's even making his voice heard on Hong Kong politics today and just launched a stupid think tank. You really think they're going to suddenly arrest Fernando Chui and put him into reeducation through labor or something?
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Dec 14, 2014 05:21
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So any time a higher organ of power alters a lower one, it's a purge? Is it a purge when a US President changes up his cabinet? Or when Hong Kong's CE takes someone off the ExCo? That's a really broad definition of purge that makes it sound like a cooler way of saying "fired."
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Dec 14, 2014 05:49
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paragon1 posted:You guys know he's a ridiculous gimmick right? You probably do, but I wanted to make sure. I don't know that. What's the gimmick? It seems like he's just an excitable person with bad opinions.
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Yeah they're all over Hong Kong too.
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Dec 29, 2014 13:32
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I just noticed that it was distilled, blended and olded in Scotland. It's the olding that makes a whiskey really great.
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Dec 29, 2014 23:10
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Oakland Martini posted:Actually if you look at my previous posts in D&D you'll find I'm either telling the truth or I've been telling this sort of lie for a long time. Some posters in the science and academics subforum know who I am I think. You misunderstand. Ceciltron is actually Christine Lagarde. Check her post history for French and everything!
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Jun 18, 2015 04:47
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We will complete the Five Year Plan in four years!
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Oct 29, 2015 02:09
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Nothing cringeworthy in there at all really. The floor numbering thing in the Hainan hotel is the silliest part. Everything seems like their trip went swimmingly and their Chinese partners were great and attentive to their needs and it was a productive and profitable trip. Good job to all involved!
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Mar 22, 2016 18:38
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Letting US credit cards into China is huge if true. Especially for me, I want to use my American credit cards to buy crap in China finally
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May 12, 2017 19:46
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Too much stuff requires a Chinese national ID card number or a Chinese character name
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May 12, 2017 19:57
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Things should go both ways. We'll see what actually happens
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May 13, 2017 02:11
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Pevan Stan weighs in on the side of environmental devastation and extinction.
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May 19, 2017 00:48
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We can only look forward to the day when a Chinese state owned enterprise agent oranges up those jungles so we can fill them with concrete farmhouses to pad our GDP stats
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Also poll respondents can be wrong about things. Like Ukraine being worried about the US instead of the country that literally invaded them a couple years later
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