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B33rChiller posted:Lol, You need a midi so you can plug it into computer. it's from a highly funny response on youtube from Elta, the entirety of which reads quote:In the comments, people are mainly concerned about two things: Where's Midi? And why is it so expensive? 🌞 I just found this all very amusing. To Elta's point about CV: yes, it's there, and also using MIDI to control the instrument that way would appear to involve writing a bunch of complex workflows in whatever midi to cv converter you are using (and possibly back again). That seems like a dubious thing to do, and putting effort into some kind of on board hardware implementation of that seems even dumber for something that appears pretty clearly designed to be played with its own interface; if you want to roll your own the potential is still there. Unsure how anyone would have watched these videos and then thought "oh boy, I can't wait to get one and then.... hook it up to Ableton  "
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snorch posted:You wouldn’t download a Virus. https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/osirus/
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Anyone got any experience with the Mo’Phatt? I picked one up for $100 recently and all of the preset slots are empty. I popped it open to look at the ROM card and see that there’s one unmarked card in there with two empty expansion slots. I’m assuming I can load the factory presets via sysex? I just wanted some cheesy 90s sounds  It boots up just fine and I can scroll around various options, but can’t find any actual sounds to use.
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Slore Tactician posted:Anyone got any experience with the Mo’Phatt? I picked one up for $100 recently and all of the preset slots are empty. The manual is available here. I didn't check if this site does but Vintage Synth Explorer has a list of all the cards that use the format. I know this doesn't really answer your question, but it should hopefully get you toward one, especially the sysex one.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:
Thing looks complicated. Maybe computer can work it?
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Honestly it reminds me of that massive physical controller someone made for the dx7. But, like, backwards. If that makes sense?
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My buddy recently got into synths and was wondering why so many of them have a bunch of ports on the back that do basically the same thing. My response was if they weren't there somebody somewhere would get mad
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Arms_Akimbo posted:My buddy recently got into synths and was wondering why so many of them have a bunch of ports on the back that do basically the same thing. My response was if they weren't there somebody somewhere would get mad Audio in and midi stuff never got hooked up. Not going to waste precious hp on a midi. Why do you need a midi? You haven't played it yet, but you already need a midi. It's a self-contained instrument with its own B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Slore Tactician posted:Anyone got any experience with the Mo’Phatt? I picked one up for $100 recently and all of the preset slots are empty. the default rom card should have some stickers on it. you might have bought a romless proteus 2k frame. it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the preset bank should just come up
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Synths and Synthesis MkII: Why do you need a midi?
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I would literally rather have midi on my saxophone than on a solar42 No idea how that would work, I assume a bellows is involved and maybe one of those health class mannequins that can smoke? This feels like a LMNC project
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I would literally rather have midi on my saxophone than on a solar42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfmN2WVS6Kg
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I would literally rather have midi on my saxophone than on a solar42 don't think there's anything like a midi pickup you can put on existing saxophones but there's quite the few midi instruments that are played like a saxophone
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y'all are overthinking it midi saxophone: 
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watho posted:don't think there's anything like a midi pickup you can put on existing saxophones but there's quite the few midi instruments that are played like a saxophone Yea, I've looked at a lot of them. I'm a lovely woodwind player but I'm experienced enough to know that most of the expressive power comes from embouchure and subtle things you do to alter the way the reed is vibrating; I'd be a lot more interested in some kind of extremely complex mouthpiece with a real reed taking all kinds of volume, multiple pitch, harmonics measurements and then providing an assload of different CV outs. Aerophone seems cool but it doesn't, to me, appear to have too much in common with playing a real horn, especially not a reed instrument. It's easy for me to imagine brass instruments might fare better except I've read enough nitty-gritty embouchure conversations between brass players, to think there's a lot of complexity there I don't understand at all. There's a reason I ended up rejecting the idea of a $1600 woodwind cv controller (Nurad) for a ~ $2500 tenor sax... but the idea of putting some piezos and other pickups and maybe even hacking up the keys of my relatively inexpensive student alto sax, is interesting. Cabbages and Kings fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heDIDqSP96M finally making some poo poo suitable for my av to wander through 
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Sadly not unexpected. https://eu.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2024/03/15/global-electronic-instrument-maker-moog-changing-asheville-location/72987158007/
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Boody posted:Sadly not unexpected. Wait what? It looks like they are staying in Asheville but moving to a different building
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edgar_ posted:Wait what? It looks like they are staying in Asheville but moving to a different building Yeah just moving downtown above Citizen Vinyl which seems like a nice pairing. They're also expanding their production facility just north of Asheville. So... doesn't seem like bad news to me?
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I mean at this point I expect anything happening to Moog to be automatically labeled BAD by the masses. I think it's in InMusic's best interest to keep as much of the Moog spirit alive, unless they just want to cash in short term as the expense of basically ruining their investment. It's not like Moog's IP is that valuable to begin with. Not that InMusic are saints either, but neither was Moog.
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BonoMan posted:Yeah just moving downtown above Citizen Vinyl which seems like a nice pairing. They're also expanding their production facility just north of Asheville. So... doesn't seem like bad news to me? I may have misread the articles that popped up in my newsfeed, that seemed to suggest this was a downsizing. There was a statement last week from Joe Richardson which isn't clear if he's talking about what happened last September or currently.
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LudoWic live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Aav-aoxRk I discovered his channel from a video where he plays Trautonium. It's also heard on this gig and there's a choir too. Very tasty stuff!
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It turned out that I was correct to within 24 hours that "probably by the time I actually have money for a Solar42 the second batch will be gone" and that is exactly what happened also he has a third batch up for preorder and  "July to August delivery" gives me 3-4 months to agonize over whether the dark green was dumb and I should have gotten black Have any other goons actually ordered this silly thing? That order number makes me wonder hardcore how many are in each batch, I feel like it's some number between 50 and 2000. I also scored a near-mint waterproof 10a Trogotronics 6u84 travel case for 275 shipped.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:
Yes Waste of Breath posted:Put down a pre-order on a synth (joining the middle aged nerd club...)
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A MIRACLE posted:I’ll buy one of y’all’s when you’re ready to sell sir this is an investment item
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Man, I don't need this right now, I'm thinking about finally getting an ER-301...
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minidracula posted:Man, I don't need this right now, I'm thinking about finally getting an ER-301... every time I even start to think down this hole I quickly decide that for me Euroboro is much more reasonable, and then I decide to defer that for another six months. I know the 301 is a powerhouse and has more CV inputs than Zoia, but, what are the killer features that make an ER-301 seem worth the $1200-1500 they go for these days? It seems like in 2017 there were not a lot of things with crossover, but now you could do something like Euroboro + 1010bluebox for the same cash more or less and have newer platforms from companies that can still support them.... not that I should be thinking about spending any more money on audio right now. Or video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfFEw1DEK4g Sensory Translator is cool, it's a 5-band envelope follower with a couple different toggles for how it triggers and the length of its response. It's an LZX thing so the output is in the 0-1v range and the intended use is tying music or speech/etc to visual synthesis by patching the different band outs. The two noises here are a unicorn kick that is reliably triggering the lowest band, and then a scritching sound from e352 woggling. This is generally an interesting idea to me, video aside. The only other followers I have are on the bArp, and Befaco I-4, and Disting. I now understand the general appeal of Buchla 296t and all the descendant expensive, chunky, multi-band followers. Tiptop's 296t has lovely faders as expected; I guess Fumana and ADDAC601 are the other main choices? Interesting trifecta there; the Addac is half the cost of the Fumana, it seems like the Buchla is sort of awkwardly priced in between. The Addac seems like the utility choice, the others probably mostly end up racked alongside other Tiptop Buchla/Frap stuff, is my guess. Reading more about this caused me to realize that E520 has selectable waveforms based on envelope followers on the inputs, I need to go gently caress with that Cabbages and Kings fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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quote:Dear MEDO backers, "expected 4/20" maybe they meant delivery in december of 2024 I bet I'll have an EltaMusic Solar42 in hand before I touch a Medo
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Hey thread, I'm a novice looking to get into synthesizers and simple music composition. Looking over this thread and reddit, I'm thinking maybe the thing that makes most sense is to buy a MIDI keyboard and play around with software synths while I'm learning, and then if I stick with it eventually grab like a synthesizer module to go with it. Just wondering if that sounds like a good plan, or are there advantages of getting a keyboard+synth combination from the get go (the KORG Minilogue XD gets recommended a lot on reddit, but I'd ideally like to make sure this hobby will stick before dropping $600-$700---I also like the idea of a slightly more portable keyboard that doesn't have the synth attached, but that's not too strong a preference). And if that does sound sensible, can someone recommend me a good MIDI keyboard (like $100-$200 or so?). Or, alternatively, what things I should be considering when looking for a keyboard. I know for a synthesizer I'll want things like polyphonic and an 8-step sequencer, but I'm not sure what things I should look for in a MIDI keyboard (49 Keys? Fewer?). Apologies for the relatively basic question. I really love the sound of synthesizers and would love to play around and make some music.
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That is a great plan. I have an Arturia Minilab controller that I like but you might be better off figuring out what DAW software you want to use and then look for something designed for compatibility with that. The difference between an expensive midi controller and a cheap one is less than you think at the beginner level so don’t overthink it.
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if you get a synth you will play it more and it will be more immediate and fun than dicking around with software. otoh you can get a used midi controller for 20 or 30 bucks, reaper is cheap, surge synth is free and you can be rocking a totally pro setup. playing is fun, but it's also possible to compose and assemble stuff with a mouse and a daw. if you want keys to mess around with, don't sweat the details, just go for what's cheap and available. you're not going to need after touch or weighted keys, a few knobs might be nice to map to the parameters of your soft synths so that you can experience that magic of filter sweeps, more keys are cool, but that's a tradeoff with size. the yamaha cbx-k1 is still my goto controller after 20+ years because it's so small, but I can't play keys for poo poo and do not care, so my preference is largely dictated by what I usually use it for
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Neurostorm posted:Hey thread, I'm a novice looking to get into synthesizers and simple music composition. Looking over this thread and reddit, I'm thinking maybe the thing that makes most sense is to buy a MIDI keyboard and play around with software synths while I'm learning, and then if I stick with it eventually grab like a synthesizer module to go with it. Just wondering if that sounds like a good plan, or are there advantages of getting a keyboard+synth combination from the get go (the KORG Minilogue XD gets recommended a lot on reddit, but I'd ideally like to make sure this hobby will stick before dropping $600-$700---I also like the idea of a slightly more portable keyboard that doesn't have the synth attached, but that's not too strong a preference). I don't have much keyboard experience myself, to tell you what's better than others, sorry. What I eventually bumbledclutzed my way into is using synths without a keyboard. There's a loooot to learn about synthesis, aside from touching the music theory side of things, if you're just starting out from zero, and playing around with free options while you get the basics down would probably set you up to better know what you want and why you want it when looking at hardware. I highly recommend this playlist to get started with vcv rack for free, no midi keyboard needed. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcaEIjiwaCmTpG7i5Gm5jro0M6kXtl-zt&si=bAON7S2HAxfEIxMV Also, give beepbox.co a whirl.
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one thing about soft synths is that you'll need a low latency audio interface. berhinger makes cheap bare bones ones for $30
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Neurostorm posted:Hey thread, I'm a novice looking to get into synthesizers and simple music composition. Looking over this thread and reddit, I'm thinking maybe the thing that makes most sense is to buy a MIDI keyboard and play around with software synths while I'm learning, and then if I stick with it eventually grab like a synthesizer module to go with it. J this seems like a really reasonable way to approach making electronic music but have you considered spending thousands of dollars on eurorack modules instead? It's a great way to clean out your closests of anything that might have resale value, or have reason to steal the neighbor's copper pipes out of their walls when they are vacationing. No one ever did that to afford a pigments license. Seriously: choosing a DAW and learning that first and foremost is great advice. You have a bunch of options there, I thought Studio One was great for the price and easy to approach and fine for a year or two until I wanted a Max8 license badly enough to get Ableton as well. Bigwig and Reaper are also well-loved, less expensive options (I think Reaper is ostensibly $1/month, Bigwig is a couple hundred bucks maybe with a 30 day trial, the lower tier versions of studio one are fifty or sixty bucks afaik). Being comfortable with a DAW might inform your controller choice; I got a Nektar88 originally because it had real good studio one support. It does not have great Ableton control surface support so it sits in the corner. I mostly use a LaunchControl mixer and Launchpad weird button board controller now, but if you know how to actually play the piano then a normal keybed makes sense. I've given up on that dream, life is too short to learn everything. Cabbages and Kings fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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I followed a similar line of thought (am now in the hard synth acquiring phase). I got a couple controllers I didn’t like and eventually ended up with a Nektar T6. It has better aftertouch than any others I found in that price range and you can assign your soft synth controls to the encoders and faders on the Nektar. However it also comes set up already with bindings for stuff like Diva, but it’s easy to assign controls manually. Speaking of which, Uhe Diva and Repro 5 were the soft synths that helped me the most. They are “virtual analog” as people like say - Diva has a number of analog emulations and Repro 5 is a Prophet 5 emulation. I ended up using g the latter much more which eventually led to my first hard synth choice being the Pro 800. Repro 1 is good as well but Diva and Repro 5 are polyphonic while 1 is monophonic (based on Prophet 1). You can do a lot with them but they are also simple enough that they are good starting from scratch with subtractive synthesis. Whatever controller you get I would make sure they have a good return policy. It’s easy to not get what you want. If the Nektar T6 seems good to you but too much money they make smaller versions which cost less.
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Based on my journey of "start with software and see how it goes" the keystep 37 and korg nanokey studio are good options that give a little taste of everything. Have fun learning midi routing, hope you aren't using windows! But don't kid yourself that software is a bargain. It's cheaper than hardware for sure but once you get into tone chasing and searching for how people accomplish sounds you're gonna get herded towards a fairly expensive collection of popular synths. Do your best to stick to the free stuff.. there is a LOT out there.
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Get an audio interface. Even with a hardware synth you want something you can record audio with. Get a keyboard with a proper 5-pin MIDI out. Now you can buy rack and desktop modules and control them remotely. If you still need to learn how to play - 61 keys (5 octaves). 4 (49 keys) is cramped. A Novation Launchkey is fine. Then, get Surge. https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/ It can run in standalone mode. The DAW doesn’t matter, but Ableton Live has a ton of tutorials. Reaper too, FL Studio as well, but quality may vary with all of them. Everyone will recommend their favorite DAW to you but you have to try and see which expects you to compose in the way you want - layer by layer, or loop by loop. With a Minilogue the first thing you bump into is polyphony - only 4 voices. The second you bump into is multitimbrality (or lack thereof). This means that if you record a melody as MIDI and want to layer another on top, you can’t - switching the sound switches also the previous sound along. A looper pedal can solve this, so can a sampler, but those cost more and do one thing. Going from software to hardware is a sensible route especially if you aren’t sure if you will like it. On the other hand, buy the Minilogue XD secondhand and if it’s not your thing you won’t lose too much money.
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