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Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
What's the catch with the behringer pro vs mini, besides behringer being general assholes. A 4 voice 16 osc prophet vs clone for $100 sounds too good to be true

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Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Ok Comboomer posted:

American Musical is a moog partner and they do zero credit check interest free financing but this isn’t the Bad With Money thread

I'm not sure if they have two financing systems there, but Affirm is not a great solution if that's the only one they offer. You need to link it to a credit card, and you need to have the full remaining balance available in credit every month. If you owe them $800 and need to make a $50 payment, you still need $800 in available credit on the card you used to get financing or you default and they demand full payment. And if you carry a balance month to month, it's also not interest free financing, you're just paying the interest to your cc company. If you want to pay it off early, it's a huge hassle. I went through this when I financed Ableton suite and never again

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Cabbages and Kings posted:

sirs and madams and others -- the site is now called gearspace :colbert:

I told sweetwater to go ahead and put me on the pro mini list, at 1015 am they said they showed an order expected ETA in oct and then within 30 mins they said "oops now it says January, I've never seen that happen before".

Whatever, they don't charge until they actually ship and I'm going to spend like, 50 times that much money on nonsense gear and possibly a nice saxophone in that time, if life goes well :rolleye:

I did this as well after seeing this just because I can always take myself off, and sweetwater must love behringer because the sales guy spent most of the time trying to upsell me on something that actually exists

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Wrageowrapper posted:

So what is the general synth nerd consensus of After Later Audio in comparison to Behringer? ALA do the occasional new thing but most of their catalogue is MI clones. Is the problem that Behringer doesn't give credit to the originals or is the issue more in how they are made? Sorry for the dumb questions but I've only been a synth head for a few years and still need to catch up on my drama.

Also is it silly to have more than one sequencer in a rack? I really enjoy the Nerdseq and it can do basically everything you could ever hope but sometimes I just want to jam the moment I turn the case on, you know. I've been thinking about the RYK sequencer or Bloom but the more intelligent part of my brain is holding me back.

The scummy thing about Behr to me, business wise, is they'll copy currently available stuff. Take the Abacus for example, that's just straight up designed to cut into Make Noise's market on Maths since you can just go buy it there still. They're not bringing back an old sound in that case, they're just ripping off a smaller outfit and using economy of scale to undercut them, and that sucks

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I listened to yesterday's Benn Jordan stream and they kind of touched on it, wondering out loud why, to use our example, behringer couldn't sell the Abacus to MN for basically $99 a pop, MN continues to sell it at their price and shift from assembly to basically drop shipping the units. "Everybody" wins (except the consumer who never sees a $99 maths clone) and nobody looks like an rear end in a top hat. Thought it was an interesting take but I have to imagine at least one side had explored that option

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

NuclearPotato posted:

Modular. Not even once. :retrogames:

This is why I keep talking myself out of a Mavis. I just know having a rack ready osc is gonna be my gateway drug

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
They're roasting Bad Gear today at noon eastern for his 100k sub special. Looks like hainbach and the rest of the yt synth scene will be there

https://youtu.be/9XNoP19uSco

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
The MPK is like a PlayStation controller. You can map knobs and buttons to various functions within your daw, and the keybed and tap pads serve as the main midi output. Alternately, your MPK comes with a copy of MPC Beats, a DAW which is specifically designed for use with Akai controllers, and as a bonus utilizes all the little stenciled settings on the controller most owners ignore

If you need something to produce sound, I suggest Vital synth. It's free

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Reaganomicon posted:

okay, so just to confirm, I don't need any more hardware other than the midi controller, USB cable and DAW software to produce beatz??

will check out Vital synth, thanks

That and a splice subscription and you have what makes up like half the EDM/dubstep space

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
The Rhythm Roulette series on YouTube is a great window into what gear professional producers actually use. Seeing guys who make six figures still using QWERTY in FL studio as their keys, it's wild.

I saw a video with Four Tet once where one of his pieces of stage gear was an old laptop running old shareware audio recording software that had long expired and had the nag screen still. He uses it because he can tap the track pad and get like a 0.1ms latent return on a sample, faster than anything else he'd come across

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
A few sales today worth mentioning:

TT-303 for $259

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/cyclone-analogic-tt-303-mk2.html

Black box for $565

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/1010-music-blackbox.html?utm_source=pepperjam&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=300308&clickId=4489077116

Software:

Native Instruments FM8 for $10

https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/4-Synth/8001-FM8?a_aid=6384ad7e501ec

Moog ring modulator for $10

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MF102S--moog-mf-102s-ring-modulator-plug-in

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Animal-Mother posted:

Super noob question of the night: I can plug my Moog Theremini into my PC via USB cable but I have no idea how to get the sound to go from there to here. I just downloaded Audacity, that's the noob level I'm on.

You may need to use their editor:

https://moogmusicsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009223274-How-do-I-download-the-Software-Editor-Librarian-for-my-synthesizer-

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

They were talking on Mr Bill's podcast about YouTube channels that recreate sounds and the guest was like yeah one time I saw a video where a guy did a pretty rock solid recreation of one of my bass synths, almost nailed it, but in reality I searched YouTube for "bird sounds" and ran some through my convolution reverb

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I was watching a hot take video and a guy sent one in like "unless you're creating your own sounds you're not a producer" and the response was "all of burial's instruments were sampled from metal gear solid so no"

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
If you're not using the daw I'm curious what max for live offers that something like bitwig grid doesn't

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lepckW5V0M

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
October is the month of soft synths it appears. Synplant 2 dropped this week, and the new Minimal Audio entry comes out in a week and a half

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Sweetwater got some I think but they sold through them all. It changed from coming soon to hot new item

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Benn Jordan vs Behringer is back in full swing:

https://twitter.com/bennjordan/status/1711498708204859557?t=zU9_DuvyOaV7ZplosSsmWw&s=19

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
This has nothing to do with any contentious topics, just a video about church and cover band hardware that the thread may be interested in


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5z-FWr0w58

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Am I going insane or was the MSRP on this thing $89 like a month ago?

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
This thread may be interested, Splice put out a Serum preset pack that's pretty, pretty good


quote:

Splice Originals proudly presents “Serum Classic Keys” - a rare collection of multi-genre presets that push the boundaries of Serum's capabilities to accurately recreate the sounds of some of the most sought-after keyboards such as the Mellotron, Fairlight CMI, Wurlitzer, and many other famous organs, electric pianos, bells, mallets, and keyboards. Carefully crafted and produced over the last year and heavily influenced by the likes of Bob James, Idris Muhamad, Ahmad Jamal, and many other keyboard legends, these unique sounds encapsulate the eclectic diversity of these classic keyboards, used in countless hits over the last 50 years, making this pack a must for every producers' sonic arsenal.

https://splice.com/sounds/packs/splice-originals/so_serum_classic_keys/samples

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Phase Plant is also $99 for Black Friday, which I've personally been looking at for a few months now to replace serum as my primary soft synth. The modular setup is just so appealing

https://kilohearts.com/products/phase_plant

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Yeah he just dropped his name in a list of other people who have been eating poo poo on the Internet lately.

They are friends though. He brings up conversations between the two of them all the time on his Friday streams with Venus Theory and RMR

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1a0xuQzGG0

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Picking up my microfreak after work today. Anybody have any resources for deep diving this hardware? Fun patch hacks, wavetable shenanigans, whatever

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
That sounds extremely helpful thanks!

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Yeah Im thinking of picking up an nts-1 for a quick and dirty fx solution. I can always run it through an Ableton rack too

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I wonder if any of this is related to the wall of noise I get when I try to put multiband compression on my microfreak

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I was listening to Mr Bill's podcast with Barclay Crenshaw and they were talking about reaching the point where you can't find any source of creativity with a piece of gear anymore. That using something for a long time can create a kind of comfort where you're not pushing it or yourself anymore, and that even something as simple as switching from one piano to another can reopen those creative pathways

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I've been on a Solaris kick lately when it comes to software reverbs. It was released for free last year

https://www.adamszabo.com/vstplugins/solaris/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNi94F8EiT8

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Hella cool. I love Arturia. I hope they aren't secret synth hilters.

I have a microfreak, their hardware is great too!

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Cabbages and Kings posted:

Alright I'm enjoying this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njEoj8yLfl0

This is all LZX, all the audio. I hosed with DWO3's different modes to see which did and did not have audible frequency tracking, then sequenced it with Rene2 and enveloped it with quadrax. Zero other cleanup on the audio, it's just the straight sine output from DWO3, and the background drone is the entire unfiltered unprocessed video stream (R,G,B mixed into a single channel on a second quadVCA).

The sine sounds sine-y in this mode, the sawtooth sounds downright nasty, I think there's a lot of potential here and also I used that oscillator to drive every piece of modulation happening inside of LZX. Doing things this way you don't have to find ways to make your video responsive, you have to find sweet spots of video VCO output that are listenable and then try to do useful visual things with the output.

Fuckin' weird poo poo man

e: also ZeroScope is pretty good, it obviously doesn't track frequency on every video mode correctly but it goes way outside audible ranges.

Richie Hawtin has been working on integrating his live lighting rig and other parts of his set to his banks of modulators and posting updates across his various socials. Might be something you're interested in

https://youtube.com/shorts/j5jfDmwc43w?si=8f4Ya_KnkpQojMjM

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
My buddy recently got into synths and was wondering why so many of them have a bunch of ports on the back that do basically the same thing. My response was if they weren't there somebody somewhere would get mad

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Omri Cohen took a stab at recreating the Solar 42 in VCV Rack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebGLr7lf7M

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

watho posted:

this is a big beat respectin' thread


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmkdRG7MQm4

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
You can use an envelope to creatively duck gain

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
It takes like ten minutes to transfer one wavetable from midi control center to the microfreak lol software blows

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

withak posted:

Microfreak is great but you will probably want a MS-CDR70 or similar if you don't already have some kind of fx box.

I made a little little chorus/delay/reverb rack in Ableton and mapped it to my mpk mini, so I have 8 knobs right next to the microfreak to dial in fx without having to actually interface with the daw

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Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
I'm in the market for a brute. What are you asking

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