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toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Rotten Cookies posted:

Since you're posting in the synth thread I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that you're a nerd-gently caress epee fencer.







(like me.)

I do both foil and epee, but I actually prefer foil.

Really I just like wearing the mask.

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toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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So uhh, what's everyone's favorite Eurorack sequencer? I swear there are way way too many options in the Euro world these days but I'm going to be doing some carpentry here in a bit to build a keyboard tray under my MU modular to get my keyboards off the top of it, which will then free up space to build a few hundred HP of space for Euro stuff. Problem is, aside from an Expert Sleepers interface ( or two? ), I can't make heads of tails of the approximately 300 trillion varieties of everything in Euro. Seriously anyone planning on:

A moog ladder filter
A diode ladder TB-303 filter
A simple 8 step sequencer with ping-pong and reverse
A mixer
A dual ADSR
....etc

Should just loving shoot themselves. The world needs no more.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Ive been mainly eying the TipTop Z3000, and the Rene.

Anything cool/microtonal on the quantizer front?

Can't someone just make a thing that is like "OK, of the 400 modules that do this, here are the 5 that people actually use"?

e: Oh god, the RS370 Poly Harmonic Generator. As a Kawai K5k owner, this makes my heart sing (and my wallet cry).

toadee fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 5, 2014

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Yeah at this point I'm thinking I'm going to start with a an ES-3 with the ES-5 expander, the RS370, a maths, and a uhm, hmmmm

Anyone with experience cross patching between 1/4 and 1/8 systems? Is it worth getting a dedicated module/box to format conversion or just buy some adapters/cables with different ends?

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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On the subject of that Expert Sleepers bit...

So, right now in my setup I've got a firewire based Mixer with 12 analog ins that I mainly use, and then I have an EMU PCI card that has ADAT channels that I picked up cheap a long time ago on some cyber-monday deal. Anyway, Im planning on using that for an ES interface, but, Im realizing I'm going to need a way to use multiple interfaces inside my DAW. Do you just use ASIO4ALL or is Jack for Windows a viable/better option?

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Mannnn I got so sideswiped with work stuff I haven't been able to do anything.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/11/22/behringer-plans-entire-line-of-vintage-inspired-polyphonic-analog-synths/

I would buy the living poo poo out of a cheap Behringer copy of a Jupiter 8

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Behringer has been generally ok. People slag on them but the boss pedal copies sound great and the mixers are OK. I mean if listen to it first but presuming it sounds like a synth should it'd be in all likelyhood an amazing deal

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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A MIRACLE posted:

How do you play notes through a rack synth, do you run a midi keyboard in or is it some cv thing?

Usually MIDI out from a PC into it, you could control that via a dedicated MIDI controller keyboard or just draw the notes in on a piano roll (or type them in a tracker like a cool kid).

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

My MU-format modular is not-really-all-that famous (featured in this week's Gizmodo Shooting Challenge):

http://gizmodo.com/5-time-traveling-timelapses-1663195813/

Sorry for the dreadful lighting

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Sorry to double post, here's my Winter compilation mix. I guess its wintery because I was like "this digital bell-ish patch I made kinda make me think of snow on the ground", for whatever reason.

My usual poo poo mixing applies. I also kinda gave up at the end because I have to leave to go drive away from my gear for a while so I wanted to get something done before time ran out.


https://soundcloud.com/david-gates-2/untitled-magical-box-mix

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Dotcom Jillionaire -- I just wetansferred you the wav of my track but realized I forgot to put my SA username in there. So 'Untitled - Magical Box Mix' is me!

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Dotcom Jillionaire posted:

toadee your PM inbox is full but could you send me another copy or project file (if it's done with Ableton) of your track? During the massive break sections it's really loud and clippy.

I won't be able to do this for days, I'm currently 1300 miles away from my studio. It's sort of meant to be super loud and clippy though.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Resonant high pass into resonant low pass is the filter setup of the gods. I almost never patch straight through a LPF anymore

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

My liner notes: "https://soundcloud.com/tenfingerstentoes"

And actually, if my artist name could read "ten fingers ten toes" rather than toadee that would be rad. No big deal either way.

I vote as well for Doctors Without Borders

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Thanks for all your work on this man!

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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I hadn't listened to any of these yet.


My god do we have a hosed up idea of Christmas

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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VoodooXT posted:

Can we do that "Boner Jamz" synthgoon porn music compilation?

I have dibs on "Robot Cakefarts"

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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renderful posted:

I'm about to lose my mind to this ympektid track. Also Sizone's synth crickets and the loving rinse by ten fingers ten toes... Insane all of it

I really want someone to add vocals to the ympektid track! Reminds me of dancing nights away to Covenant in the late 90s/early00's....

Thanks about the rinse. I really wanted to keep going but I honestly got to that point, dumped it to wav, wetransferred it, then hopped in a car and drove 1300 miles for Thanksgiving haha. There's probably another 2-3 minutes of inspiration left in there somewhere.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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It would probably have helped if I could mix properly at all. I just can't ever be bothered. My monitoring situation is real bad (Behringer Truth's sitting on top of a desk with a big empty area underneath it in an eclectically furnished 100 year old house with plaster walls and hardwood floors and no acoustic treatment), but honestly, I basically spend about 5 minutes mixing before going 'eh fuckit' and playing with more fart noises. Because farts.

Fun fact: those load as heck DnB drum samples were from .it files posted in the 90s by none other than Bogdan Raczynski (then just 'bogdan of n.o.i.s.e.'). Trackers forever.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Flipperwaldt posted:

Nothing was clipping in the file I gave you, pal.
This is mixing, not mastering. Wouldn't have minded you or anyone doing a remix album, but let's be clear on that from the start and just ask for stems where necessary.
I appreciate the enthousiasm and the time you took, but you're totally overthinking this, just like you apparently were overthinking what needed to be done to the music. You want a coherent album? Let one person mix it. There's no point trying to impose a coherent artistic vision without going back to the stems. (I see sofullofhate has got me covered on that.) You want a compilation? Bring things to a similar level and maybe gently massage some glaring actual EQ errors and let the tracks be different. At least that's what I hoped you'd be doing.

Scope creep, it's a nasty thing, man. I'm definitely not saying I would have done a better job. But stereo enhancement? Really? On the whole track? Did any of the tracks even have a problem with that in the first place?

I'm sure I'm being a diva to some degree, but I honestly feel there are points that were worth addressing underneath that.


Whoa, did someone piss in your cornflakes? Why are we harshing on the glowing mellow that is bathing this thread lately. Ok so he mixed instead of mastered, who cares? I don't think he claimed to be doing a super duper professional studio job, and in the end, had a couple days to mash together a coherent sounding album. It turned out pretty well. You are overthinking it, and you are kinda being a diva here. Relax bro, we made a thing and it's cool.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Flipperwaldt posted:

You smell of geek social fallacies.

I'm glad you and a couple of others are happy with the results. I'm not speaking in your name.

I get to say when I'm not happy with something that goes out there with my name on it though.

Is this some kind of super-deep meta thing based on your track name?

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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It just came off as incredibly bitchy, and everyone had the opportunity to chime in with suggestions/offers back when bringing the album together as a cohesive mix was mentioned and no concerns were voiced. I mean I see the argument, the tact and timing is just missing totally.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Startyde posted:

Analog percussion, awesome pewpew sound effect button, 8-note polyphonic preset synth with chord memory, switchable tremolo, vibrato, decay (iirc, maybe chorus too?nope). Synth voices are mixed squares through filters for the presets. The woodblock is amazing~ I remember liking its woolen sound but unless you want to sound like a casio organ there's not much else to it. A hundo isn't bad if it's in good shape though, I'd probably scoop it up just for the nostalgia kick. The later CT-6000 is still one of my favorite keyboards. If you end up hating it, sample it and dump it, I doubt you'd lose any money selling it.



If you're so inclined you could probably mod the hell out of it too.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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I spent an hour yesterday tweaking a 'squeaky bed springs' patch on my MS-20.

Best part is it doubles as 'high pitched moans and squeals', so you can sequence the bed springs and ad-lib the excitement.

What have you done to me goons

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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A Winner is Jew posted:

I don't know if I'll be able to contribute this time around, but if I do I call dibs on "2 oscillators 1 sine" :shrek:

Youve got until Feb! Plenty of time.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Wow, I wasn't expecting to see this:

http://www.matrixsynth.com/2014/12/futureperfect-christmas-2014.html

Hopefully that leads to a few sales!

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Or hey how about bout a charity that benefits victims of sexual violence?

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Sizone posted:

Now that Moby's shown his face in this thread again, he might be able to tell you the street value of a xoxbox. I'd say it's probably worth it in terms of market value BUT TB303s AREN'T VERY INTERESTING SYNTHS.

It depends. The thing is though, if you aren't sure you want a 303, you do not want a 303. It's not 'interesting' in that it is 1 osc with limited modulation, but the amount of timbres you can get out of it is fascinating, and it takes to EQ and some overdrive gorgeously. Again though, reasons for wanting a 303 are "making Acid", and if the ability to make Acid (don't ever actually try to do this with a TB-3 or anything short of a x0x or TT-303) isn't that big to you, it is totally and absolutely not worth it.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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A MIRACLE posted:

Why hate on the TB-3? It looks like it has a decent / similar sequencer style. But yeah I decided I needed a 303-alike after playing with the software one on http://www.audiotool.com/ for like 3 hours without realizing it. The thing is mezmerizing


Well for one, it doesn't faithfully recreate a lot of the sound of the 303 at things like extreme high resonance, repeated accents, and other little quirks. Secondly, it doesn't have a loving envelop mod or decay knob, which is insane. The stupid touch pad thing is not a replacement. I mean, Acid is at its core like an aural fetish for the very specific quirks of that vintage Roland gear, so it's really really important, if you want to make it, to get a very, very specific sound, no compromises. Even the x0x is actually pretty meh at it. That said if you like groovin to the loopy loops, have fun with the TB-3 or the audiotools emulation etc.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Yes, like I said, if you want to make Acid, go elsewhere, if you want a little bass synth with a simple sequencer that ties in well with a computer to do loopy jams, I'm sure its fine.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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If you wanna do Zapp & Roger, you want a talk box, not a vocoder http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-A-Talkbox/

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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WAFFLEHOUND posted:

It's loving fantastic for acid what are/aren't you smoking?

Acid is very specifically the sound that came from the Chicago House scene in the late 80s and derivatives thereof. It is at it's fundamental core, the Roland sound, period. The continuation of Acid as a genre today is a direct result of the continued devotion to that specific timbre as a basis for the music. I know people want to claim that any bass synth line with a LPF kicked near self-oscillation is 'an Acid line' or 'the Acid part', but when I say "you want to do Acid?" I am not talking about that sort of thing. I am very specifically stating a genre or sub-genre of dance music directly related to the late 80s Chicago sound and nothing else.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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It's not just the 303, it's the 101 and 202 as well, and of course the drum machines, mainly 909 and some 809 and 707, even some 606. It doesn't mean that any other music is bad or anything, just Acid as a genre is based on the purity of that timbre, so doing it with a tb-3 or vst or something is just pale in comparison is all.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Haha ok whatever, every artist we revere is a much or more of a snob about such things. Electronic music is general is more focused on it because selection of timbre is one of the major points that defines our music and differentiates it.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Sjoewe posted:

Isn't that a bit of an anachronistic claim to make? I mean, if anything, the birth of acid pretty much boils down to some Chicago ghetto kids getting their hands on the cheapest synths available at that time and some shady guys at Trax Records that understood that they could earn big by tricking everyone into signing aways the rights to their music for a fistful of dollars.

Anachronistic? I guess? It's just the truth. Acid is defined by that sound. I'm not even saying synths like the tb-3 are worthless. I'm saying if you want to make acid, a genre literally defined by a specific sound, things like it are pale comparisons to the real thing. So if you know you want to make acid, just get the boxes that make Acid and get on with it.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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Yah welcome to music production. Like I said the artists you revere are twice as particular about every aspect. People like Aphex or BoC or Daft Punk or whoever go on and on about this poo poo. This isn't even a weird thing. If you want to be a chamber musician you're going to buy a violin or viola or cello. If you're going to be a Jazz guitarist you but a loving guitar, and a pretty particular one at that. If you're going to make Acid, you buy old Roland synths because they are what make Acid, period.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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And hilariously, that's also what I am saying.

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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WAFFLEHOUND posted:

99% of people couldn't tell a 303 apart from a TB-3 or Phoscyon or a sequenced Moog with a touch of distortion.

Or someone going "bow wowow woweeewow"

And most people couldn't tell the difference between a Vivaldi violin concerto and a Bach quartet. Does that mean we should stop
Differentiating them? Hell most people can't tell the difference between a violin and a viola playing the same notes. Guess you should just pick up whichever of those you want, no real difference right?

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toadee
Aug 16, 2003

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CAT rear end now!!! posted:

Fixed that for you, but I agree. I'd add: Make your own drat music, because that's more interesting.

edit: If you can say "I'm making an acid track" or "My new album is a trance album" you have a problem :)

I totally disagree. You would really disregard anyone writing Jazz? Chamber music? Rock? Expressing yourself through the lens of an established genre isn't expressing yourself any less.

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