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teejayh posted:http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/ Rest in piss.
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Stanos posted:A good racket really, you bait people into taking a swing at you and then you sue the poo poo out of them. The speech is protected for the most part, assault isn't. I've heard this many times (and have said it before myself) but is there any proof of this?
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:I've heard this many times (and have said it before myself) but is there any proof of this? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/18/fred-phelps-ronald-reagan-lawsuit_n_4986046.html?utm_hp_ref=politics http://www.ydr.com/ci_14780513 http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2011/01/westboro_baptist_church_sues_st_charles_city_funeral_protests.php http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/westboro-baptist-church http://boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.html You can type 'WBC sues' into google and find a bevy of them. They sued anyone they could bully or thought they could win against. EDIT: With the ACLU stepping in once in a while to protect their freedom of speech when cities/counties restricted it. Stanos fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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You should always speak good of the dead. He's dead. Good.
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Fried Chicken posted:You should always speak good of the dead. quote:TOPEKA, KS—Fred Phelps Sr., the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church and the man who is widely credited with forever ending the gay rights movement in America, died today at age 84.
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Christ please tell me that's the Onion article or something. I can't tell anymore.
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First Bass posted:Christ please tell me that's the Onion article or something. I can't tell anymore. It's an onion article, really.
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Paxicon posted:It's an onion article, really. I'll admit that I had to check myself.
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Stanos posted:You can type 'WBC sues' into google and find a bevy of them. They sued anyone they could bully or thought they could win against.
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If their goal was to make money it didn't work. quote:Before the jury began deliberating the size of punitive damages, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted the size of the compensatory award "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court.
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A $4M net worth for an attorney who was disbarred and unable to work for 30 years and his uneducated, unemployed family seems like something was working. Most scam artists aren't Bernie Madoff, but four million dollars in property is doing pretty well for yourself.
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meat sweats posted:A $4M net worth for an attorney who was disbarred and unable to work for 30 years and his uneducated, unemployed family seems like something was working. Most scam artists aren't Bernie Madoff, but four million dollars in property is doing pretty well for yourself. Outside any discussion of attempts to scam it's flatly untrue that the Phelps family is uneducated and unemployed. All of them are degree'd and all of them hold down jobs. This veneer of respectability is one of the aspects of this family that makes them so incredibly frustrating.
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meat sweats posted:A $4M net worth for an attorney who was disbarred and unable to work for 30 years and his uneducated, unemployed family seems like something was working. Most scam artists aren't Bernie Madoff, but four million dollars in property is doing pretty well for yourself. $50,000 a year for 40 years would be $2,000,000 total, before taxes. Having a net worth of $4,000,000 is way more than most Americans will make in their lives let alone actually see.
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meat sweats posted:A $4M net worth for an attorney who was disbarred and unable to work for 30 years and his uneducated, unemployed family seems like something was working. Most scam artists aren't Bernie Madoff, but four million dollars in property is doing pretty well for yourself. Many of them are lawyers and those that aren't have jobs. They're not a bunch of hicks, they're regular people with insane beliefs. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 24, 2014 |
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I don't know, it seems like a perfectly legit scheme. Freedom of Speech/Religion is protected, so they can go to funerals and picket them with their vile, inflammatory sentiments and any attempt to stifle them, or otherwise get rid of them probably isn't protected. Instant lawsuit. They're not uneducated hicks, and it's hard to imagine them not being aware of this distinction, what with them being attorneys themselves. It is safe to assume that even if they do actually hold these beliefs and it's not just some sort of scam, they're exploiting it for everything they're worth.
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Ddraig posted:I don't know, it seems like a perfectly legit scheme. I agree, I'd go as far as to say that, as horrible as the things he said were, the fact that they pulled this poo poo probably makes them worth it. Free speech needs to be tested constantly, and people need to learn the correct response to being faced with the absurd
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Many of them are lawyers and those that aren't have jobs. They're not a bunch of hicks, they're regular people with insane beliefs. Well, they're savvy scam artists pretending to be a bunch of hicks. My point is that I can't find any evidence of WBC members existing outside the WBC. Yes, several of them have law degrees but they aren't "working as lawyers" other than to file suits on behalf of the WBC. There's no apparent income besides suing people for activities at WBC protests. If you've seen otherwise please share it, but that is what I've found.
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Check the "Introduction" section at this link: http://blank.org/addict/ Fred Sr. insisted all his children obtain law degrees and work for Phelps Chartered. Law, however, didn't sit well with some of them. In other words, they couldn't hack it. Fred Jr. and Timothy both work at Shawnee Correctional Facility, near Topeka. Jonathan might as well, though last I was aware he remains a lawyer. Several of the daughters and granddaughters work as nurses or in elder/child care. It's incredibly shortsighted to find a group - any group - that disagrees with you and just assume "dumb hicks."
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Well, to an extent, obviously anyone who legitimately has these beliefs is a dumb hick in spirit, but I'm arguing the opposite, that they don't really believe this and are running a scam. That's why I bring up the fact that there don't appear to be a lot of potential sources for the $4M net worth of the Phelps family besides their nuisance lawsuits.
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Hahaha these people aren't hicks! They hold down jobs at a correctional facility!
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I don't actually believe this is true, but a small part of me wants to believe this is a long troll. Fred Phelps the civil rights attorney embarks on a 30 year plan to make homophobia a joke, doesn't let his shithead kids in on the plan, and gets excommunicated from his troll church when he comes clean on his deathbed. 
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Like most folks, I sure couldn't stand him in life. But man. What a sad, bitter end to a sad, bitter life. Honestly, being a Christian myself, I hope he hits the other side better than he left this one. It always sounded like a miserable existence.Postorder Trollet89 posted:You fight hate with liveable working wages and a proper, secular education. To be fair, I would argue that you provide people with these things at least in part as an expression of your concern for the dignity and well being of all your fellows - as an expression of Love, in other words. But this isn't a Christian theology thread.
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meat sweats posted:Well, to an extent, obviously anyone who legitimately has these beliefs is a dumb hick in spirit, but I'm arguing the opposite, that they don't really believe this and are running a scam. That's why I bring up the fact that there don't appear to be a lot of potential sources for the $4M net worth of the Phelps family besides their nuisance lawsuits. If you believe Nate Phelps (and why not) Fred's issues went far deeper than just coming up with a money scam one day in his easy chair. Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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can't think of a better place to ask this and it's very off your topic sorry BUT someone tweeted this sexism is inherent to the objectification of women. and I wasn't sure I agreed and I also replied with I’m tryin to work out if I agree with that statement though, not sure if I do.. surely there is non-sexist objectification? what's the deal yo? is objectification inherently sexist? I love women and they are way better than men but I also love to look at they bods (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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gb2yospos b1tch!!!
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Farecoal posted:gb2yospos please dont iShame
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gently caress you I fuckin hate it when you come to a bunch of people and you're like "I'm ignorant, help me understand why something that's obvious to you isn't to me" and they're like "if it's not obvious to you then you're either beyond hope or joking" and ignore it occasionally someone stoops down to my level and gives me the insider knowledge, and then the world is a better place, but for some reason people are judged based on their ignorance as if they don't actually understand what ignorance even fuckin means. "I've just informed myself about something that I don't even know exists" - some stoner once as a joke
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echinopsis posted:occasionally someone stoops down to my level and gives me the insider knowledge, and then the world is a better place, but for some reason people are judged based on their ignorance as if they don't actually understand what ignorance even fuckin means. Masons became the Fed.
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echinopsis posted:I fuckin hate it when you come to a bunch of people and you're like "I'm ignorant, help me understand why something that's obvious to you isn't to me" and they're like "if it's not obvious to you then you're either beyond hope or joking" and ignore it you got punked by one guy how is this the entire subforum's fault meat sweats posted:My point is that I can't find any evidence of WBC members existing outside the WBC. lol boner confessor fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 22, 2014 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:you got punked by one guy how is this the entire subforum's fault Because you are one goon hive-mind? I require evidence of the contrary to disbelieve that
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It's too bad he picketed the volunteer soldiers funerals for the wrong reason.
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echinopsis posted:Because you are one goon hive-mind? I require evidence of the contrary to disbelieve that one of us
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echinopsis posted:Because you are one goon hive-mind? I require evidence of the contrary to disbelieve that
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Fred may have been responsible for a lot of bad laws, but he also pushed shitloads of people over to the side of gay rights who otherwise probably wouldn't have given a poo poo because of his tactics. He's pretty much the epitome of a lovely, outdated viewpoint thrashing about in an ugly way before it dies.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/fred-phelps-equality_n_5378433.html Apparently, he may have had a change of heart near the end. some of the family think he was nice to some suicide prevention group and started rethinking his homophobia and then Steve drain took power.
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pengun101 posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/fred-phelps-equality_n_5378433.html It'd be pretty loving funny if this post turned out to actually be true: bitcoin bastard posted:I don't actually believe this is true, but a small part of me wants to believe this is a long troll.
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echinopsis posted:Because you are one goon hive-mind? I require evidence of the contrary to disbelieve that Silenced for getting to close to the dark secret behind D&D...
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echinopsis posted:can't think of a better place to ask this and it's very off your topic sorry BUT someone tweeted this This is the kind of poo poo I was talking about here : echinopsis posted:gently caress you I am actually legit asking that question I got probated for. I asked it in the marriage equality thread because I thought it was the most relevant thread to ask someone about sexism... Got told it wasns't appropriate so then I trawled through 4 or 5 pages of threads in D&D to find this thread which was barely on target but at least was dead enough. Do I really need to start an entire thread just to get an answer to the question? Jesus fuckin' christ
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