Elderbean posted:

thrakkorzog posted:

Hey, when was the last time you saw somebody self-diagnosed with a Bipolar disorder? That was all the rage back when I was growing up.

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That was when he started challenging vaccines. He said viruses — not vaccines — are a part of the natural world. “Unfortunately, they mean that some people get sick and some people die,” he said. “But the reality is that we can’t inject our children with chemicals.”

VitalSigns posted:

Don't let Big Pharma tell you your child can't enjoy a peanut butter sandwich at school. Let other parents make decisions about what their child eats and they should respect your decisions. You're a parent so you know what's best.

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I'm frustrated also
My husband and I are also exhausted from the constant barrage of anti-vax sentiment on the radio, Internet, television, etc..
We listen to NPR every morning and lately there is a new piece every day. I was curious to see where the push is coming from so I looked into who their supporters were; I wasn't surprised to see the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation listed as well as Glaxo Smith Kline and a number of science research foundations involved in developing vaccines.

Since these pro-vax organizations are giving money to national public radio, which prides itself on unbiased and fair reporting, it isn't difficult to see how they have been influenced.

Try to tune them out and stop listening and reading the articles that make you second guess the well-researched decision that you made regarding your children's health.

Ytlaya posted:

the woman who created this thread doesn't care at all and even makes up some bullshit about vaccines somehow being the things spreading the diseases.

Habibi posted:

What you need to know: This *new* study from 2011 compares disease rates among children in the general *German* population to *self-reported survey results* from *mostly American respondents,* allowing the writers (and posters) of the article to conclude that, "many children and adults have diseases and disorders that are vaccine induced."

happyhippy posted:

If 30 dead kids didn't cause an uproar about guns, vaccines sure won't.
It will take a good percentage of the population to die before the rest get around to thinking that they are a good idea.

Solkanar512 posted:

Why not instead advocate for removal of non-medical exemptions and take the choice to risk other people's lives out of their hands?

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When she got pregnant, Moore and her husband delayed immunization for Sierra and Savannah

Dalael posted:

Okay. I will roll with it. How would you suggest that I proceed? I have many anti-vaxxers in my family and I would love nothing more than get them to vaccinate their kids.

That Works posted:

Yes but not the 'tism

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

I've read some that deny any link, and claim smallpox rates went down due to improved sanitation, and actually the WHO's vaccination programs in the last remaining pockets of the world actually perpetuated the disease longer.

Centripetal Horse posted:

Guys, chugging chlorine straight out the jug in your pool supplies closet is dangerous. Yet, we let our children sprinkle those little packets of salt on their food. Does that make sense? we pump it up our children's rear end and it cures autism. You can't explain that.

PT6A posted:

What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to argue against mandatory vaccination as a matter of personal choice, yet also wish to prohibit a 16 year old from making their own medical decisions with informed consent?

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Understand the difference between Newtonian physics and Quantum physics and their corresponding impacts on biology.

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Understand how environment and emotion impact biology and health, and articulate the limitations of genetics as destiny.

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Provide a critique of the role of private pharmaceutical companies on the provision of health care options

torpedan posted:

Usually these graph includes data covering much higher mortality so that due to the scale of the graph you cannot see any reduction after The 1950s anyway. Either way, it's better to look at the number of infections as opposed to how many people died as it's much easier to spot the effect of the vaccine as opposed to looking at the effects of improvement of medical care.

thrakkorzog posted:

Good luck with that.

This wouldn't be the first time somebody set up a new religion to try get around the law. And the courts tend to come down hard against made up religions designed to skirt the law. Just ask the Scientologists.

Jack Gladney posted:

Is the "worm" his sloughed-off intestinal lining?

thespaceinvader posted:

Which is dumb as poo poo because (if you believe that kind of thing) he sent us the scientists who cured the loving plagues for a reason.

It's like that old joke about the dude stuck in a life raft who is approached by a nearby boat, then a rescue boat, then a rescue helicopter, then a submarine and refuses them all because 'god will save me', then ends up in heaven and asks god why god didn't save him and god just replies 'I sent a boat, a rescue boat, a helicopter and a loving submarine, what more did you want?'

People using religion to justify science-less bullshit is just dumb on so many levels.