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Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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madeupfred posted:

The movie was pretty boring honestly, but if what people have been saying is true, the director's cut will be incredible.

Aronofky said that he got the final cut on the movie. It's possible that he's stepping around saying that there was studio interference somehow, but it's more likely that he made the movie he wanted to make and it wasn't what we were hoping for, exactly. Either way, I wouldn't expect a radically different cut on DVD.

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Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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muscles like this? posted:

Yes, they're angels. The movie specifically says they are angels who came to Earth against the "Creator's" wishes and so he locked them into stone bodies as punishment.

And Biblically, the Watchers were angels who came to Earth and had offspring, Nephilim, or giants, with human women.

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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thepokey posted:

I feel the same as others in that overall I was kind of bored by it. It was visually stunning; I can't deny that. But it just seemed to plod along. There were things I liked and things I didn't like, but neither to the extreme that they outweighed the other; so it just felt sort of meh.

So I haven't picked up a bible since early high school years and I have very little recollection of it's contents besides the well known stuff; but were the watchers a real thing according to bible tales? Not in this form of course, but were there supposedly angels that came to Earth to help man and were somehow punished for it? Or is that completely from Aranofsky's own mind?

Also; wow that was the quickest child birth ever! "My water broke! *2 minutes pass* twins!" I mean I know they were pushed for time and all, but of all the crazy biblical poo poo that was going on that was the one part that had me sitting there going "oh...ok, guess we just gotta accept that and move on".

I did find the part where both of Noah's sons and Ray Winstone were all trying to kill him at once. It made a few people around my giggle too. That was one part I felt just had a different feel than a lot of other scenes and felt almost unintentionally comical.


The Watchers are fairly biblically (well, apocryphally) accurate. They were angels sent to Earth to watch over man, but they "fell" by having children with men, who were Nephilim, or giants. Some of these Watchers then did give various technologies to mankind. And according to the Book of Enoch, the purpose of the flood was to purge the Earth of the Nephilim, because they were abominations.

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

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ZenMaster posted:

Most of the symbolism isn't from the Bible, it is from the Zohar/Kabbalah (Adam and Eve as shiny beings / the snake skin as enlightenment / angels being trapped in earthen bodies)

It's isn't Bible Noah, it's Gnostic Gnoah. It's crazy how much they packed in there, and the director fooled everyone, basically. (assuming the studio would have said no to that version)

I was a bit curious about this, so here's the article that details that whole mess. All I have to say is: wow.

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