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Alan Smithee posted:Hows the box office over there? HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Nice Seltzer's avatar. 
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I'm curious what people there thought of the "gangster movie" aspect of it.
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm curious what people there thought of the "gangster movie" aspect of it. It reminded me a lot of Sleeping Dogs with having characters that you enjoy watching a lot despite being, well, total loving criminals. But Sleeping Dogs isn't the only thing to have done that, neither was Raid 2. It was also interesting seeing how much of an efficient and potentially ruthless criminal Rama CAN be. dreffen fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Ogantai posted:loving customs won't let me bring in lebanon bologna. That poo poo's so good. When I was a kid that's the only bologna we ever ate so I used to be confused as to why people thought bologna was disgusting. I used to wrap slices of it around pickle spears. Alan Smithee posted:I'm curious what people there thought of the "gangster movie" aspect of it. Nice heavies, especially Bejo. Is there something that has some backstory for him? Because I liked that aspect of not knowing much about a really distinct looking character.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:52
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I had to cover my eyes a lot in this movie like a little tiny baby, but never moreso than for the demise of baseball bat man. Holy gosh darn.
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Chexoid posted:I had to cover my eyes a lot in this movie like a little tiny baby, but never moreso than for the demise of baseball bat man. Holy gosh darn. Really? I though hammer girl ripping people's calf muscles open was much more unpleasant to visualise.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:47
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Came in to post that I agree that it was overly long, and had too many talky scenes that didn't add much (oh wow yet another young guy wants to step up and the older more experienced one won't let him). However, thanks to the analyses of the film by a couple of you, it's made me appreciate the film more. I think the problem is that I went into the first film without knowing anything and loved it. For this I was excited and expecting it to be the Raid but even more so, and it probably just suffered from typical sequel problems.
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Chexoid posted:I had to cover my eyes a lot in this movie like a little tiny baby, but never moreso than for the demise of baseball bat man. Holy gosh darn. That got one of the best responses from the crowd. When the bat stuck in the skull everyone did a kind of laughing moan at how nasty that was.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:41
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For those of you who don't know, Yayan Ruhian (Mad Dog/Prakoso) is in both movies not because he's the same character but because he's the fight choreographer and arguably the best martial artist in the whole film crew. Guy's a loving half-pint tank.
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Apr 29, 2014 19:38
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I feel like eventually every Silat master who can act or who has good presence will be a part of these films. The guy who played The Assassin, for example, he didn't have a whole lot of heavy lifting, but god drat does he have a lot of physical charisma and a great look. From moment one you just look at this guy and understand that he's a take no poo poo motherfucker.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:46
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Lobok posted:That got one of the best responses from the crowd. When the bat stuck in the skull everyone did a kind of laughing moan at how nasty that was. I couldn't help but laugh when his corpse leaned over and the bat fell on the ground with an audible clunk.
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I had a quick look back and I didn't see anything about this in the thread but I just saw the behind-the-scenes stuff on Youtube. They've got some pretty cool stuff in there, like how the car chase used one camera but with several cameramen passing it around. Part 1's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puoPsmepZDk
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Jonny Angel posted:I feel like eventually every Silat master who can act or who has good presence will be a part of these films. The guy who played The Assassin, for example, he didn't have a whole lot of heavy lifting, but god drat does he have a lot of physical charisma and a great look. From moment one you just look at this guy and understand that he's a take no poo poo motherfucker. His character was probably the flimsiest in the film but I still thought some of his facial expressions were great.
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Stargate posted:I had a quick look back and I didn't see anything about this in the thread but I just saw the behind-the-scenes stuff on Youtube. They've got some pretty cool stuff in there, like how the car chase used one camera but with several cameramen passing it around. Part 1's here: That would explain how they got some of those shots. My jaw dropped at a lot of the camera stuff in this and Raid 1.
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Loved the movie, while I admire how lean the first is I think this movie is better overall. I'm glad this thread moved beyond "oh why did they need to shoehorn a plot in the first one was good without one", because there's actually some interesting analysis in here that a surface dismissal ignores. I actually found the plot and characters very engaging and didn't find it detracted from the movie at all. I would watch three hours of this.
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Just bumping this thread to say the streaming version is on sale at Amazon on June 24th. The blu-ray is coming out on July 8th.
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AgentHaiTo posted:Just bumping this thread to say the streaming version is on sale at Amazon on June 24th. I've been aching to see this movie again so that is great news. I had only known about the blu-ray date and it still feels too far off.
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AgentHaiTo posted:Just bumping this thread to say the streaming version is on sale at Amazon on June 24th. Will it be on Prime or just regular On Demand I definitely wanna see the kitchen fight again if nothing else
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I don't think it's Prime, but I'm not sure if there is a way to check if something is scheduled to go on Prime. That'd be great if it did. Also, I'm reading online that a lot of folks aretalking about waiting for the Unrated Cut that was played at Sundance. The blu-ray and streaming version is the R rated, not the Unrated Cut, although I see some stores like Best Buy and Walmart promoting it as the Unrated version. A little more research and here's an interview with Gareth Evans saying the changes are minimal and the interviewer did not even notice when he saw both versions. http://www.hypable.com/2014/04/16/raid-2-gareth-evans-director-interview/ And a little more research says the UK version will be the uncut version. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Raid-2-Blu-ray-Iko-Uwais/dp/B00IG9DESC/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1403462249&sr=1-1&keywords=raid+2 AgentHaiTo fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jun 22, 2014 |
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Jun 22, 2014 19:35
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Lobok posted:That got one of the best responses from the crowd. When the bat stuck in the skull everyone did a kind of laughing moan at how nasty that was. yep, rewound it a few times. and when your man is hanging out of the car, and it crashes snapping his spine personal highlight
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Jun 26, 2014 17:22
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This film was definitely worth the view, even if only for the fight choreography. Like other posters, I appreciate the fact that Evans didn't stick to the formula of the previous movie. Something I enjoyed was fleshing out the "villains" with little pieces of fighting on their own - Hammergirl and Baseballbro getting their time in a spotlight, along with Mad Dog/Prakoso. Mad-Dog/Prakosos piece, with his wife, was something that struck me. For a moment, I was disoriented and thought that the narrative had flashed-forward, and we were looking at a dystopic future where Rama was trapped in the criminal world - and turned over time into a hobo hitman whose wife disavowed him and refused to let him near their child. (Un)fortunately I did not get to ruminate too much on this, as Uco showed up. Nevertheless, I think Mad Dog was an interesting character as he ostensibly is someone Rama COULD have become. I really liked the dark brooding shots, especially the introduction, the paddies/fields with the grey, grey sky overhead, the clouds pregnant with the promise of the violence to come, and the mud-splattered muck fight, which evolved slowly into more and more sterile environments (the muck of the prison yard --> the porno/drug safe-house --> the bar and finally the polished restaurant and the sterile kitchen). It's an interesting juxtaposition - the environment becomes cleaner and cleaner, but Ramas role, and position is far more grey and ambiguous as he is stained by proximity to the moral muck his role places him in As for the violence,by the time the audience reaches the kitchen, I think the squeamishness can be relegated as an afterthought. It to me, climaxed on the train fight, watching the twin-hammers in action induced a lot of wincing. By the time we reached the restaurant, I was fairly desensitised All in all, great movie, when the visceral thrill of the action is over, the movies plot leaves a little to ruminate on (the menagerie of villains definitely being one such thing), not too much, but sufficient for an "action" film. For me,the Uco/Father relationship and role in the story was the biggest letdown and the most obvious flaw, audience could definitely see it coming a mile away, and honestly, I felt it added relatively little to the story, as both characters were ehh. The movie was honestly carried by the "minor" characters - Hammergirl and her brother (who initially, I thought was a love interest),the "Assassin", Eka and the unreliable "controller" who appears at the start and has a nonchalant approach to Ramas life As for news about the Raid 3, this came up http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/26768/20140628/the-raid-3-news.htm Some The Raid 3 news have surfaced and it seems that "Hammer Girl" Julie Estelle is going to return to the series but as a different character. The following Raid 3 news came from Indonesian newspaper, The Indonesia Chronicles and their report states that following the massive popularity spike of the Raid 2: Berandal's "Hammer Girl" Julie Estelle, Gareth Evans has reportedly added Julie Estelle back into The Raid 3 but as a different character. Like Us on Facebook Reusing cast members is nothing new to the Raid franchise as Yayan Ruhian aka "Mad Dog" in the Raid: Redemption appeared on The Raid 2: Berandal as Prokoso. The Indonesia Chronicles didn't report what "Hammer Girl" Julie Estelle's role would be in The Raid 3. Aside from the Raid 3 news of "Hammer Girl" Julie Estelle returning to the 3rd movie, there as a rumor that is circulating around the internet that martial arts movie superstar, Donnie Yen, would appear on The Raid 3 but as cameo only. While Donnie Yen and Gareth Evans haven't confirmed that talks between them have occurred, seeing other Asian martial arts superstars in The Raid 3 are something that fans want to see as evidenced when the Tony Jaa rumors for the Raid 3 spread throughout the internet. What do think about the "The Raid 3" news that was just reported? Are excited to see "Hammer Girl" Julie Estelle in The Raid 3? Sound off in the comments below! Honestly, I don't think they need famous cameos, I enjoy the local talent. Bridgeburner_ fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Jul 1, 2014 01:51
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At this point Rama is probably going to play his own evil twin in the 3rd movie
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I'm just happy to hear they still want to make Raid 3. I assumed that Raid 2 bombed and that was it. I've replayed that final kitchen fight already and it's the best thing ever. Can they bring that bad guy back too? He was just so intense and professional.
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Jul 1, 2014 17:31
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Oh poo poo, A Raid film with Donnie Yen would be loving AWESOME. Not saying that the prior Raid films suffered from not having a bigger star in them, it's just the extra toppings on a already delicious banana split.
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Jul 1, 2014 22:13
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The Raid 3 should be a lot leaner. Human conflict that doesn't involve smashed, burnt or crushed faces isn't the director's strong suit.
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I think that one of the main problems is that there's too much filler, and for most of the talky expositions the film felt like it was tapping its foot impatiently to get onto the next fight scene. Apart from the prison one they all lacked soul, and the weird fixations on characters. Guys. Hammer girl was like the one out of Chocolate, but more downs'ish.
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DNS posted:That would explain how they got some of those shots. My jaw dropped at a lot of the camera stuff in this and Raid 1. That shot where the cameraman is dressed up as a car seat is amazing. Who needs CGI ?
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Except that they covered it with CGI, of course.
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The bgm was also highly intrusive. In particular the kitchen scene. Wtf.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Oh poo poo, A Raid film with Donnie Yen would be loving AWESOME. Not saying that the prior Raid films suffered from not having a bigger star in them, it's just the extra toppings on a already delicious banana split.
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fenix down posted:The problem is Donnie Yen is 51 years old, and you can really tell in movies like Ip Man 2 and Legend of the Fist. A lot of wire fu and heavily edited fight scenes. Of course, he has done 11 movies since then which I have not seen, so I am absolutely not the expert. When the hell is Ip Man 3 coming out anyway?
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I was pretty disappointed with this movie. The fight scenes are incredible, the cinematography is a phenomenal, but man what a boring story! I mean are we supposed to feel that there's a connection between Rama and the boss's son? He's hugging him at the end but I never felt for one moment that Rama liked him. The movie didn't show us that at all. And introducing those cool minibosses like 2 hours into the movie, what kind of stupid idea was that? They should have been introduced much sooner and done more. Having an identical character from the first movie who looks exactly the same but is a different character... Smart move. I would have kept the majority of it in the prison, so it would be similar to the first one but like an inverse version. Lots you could do there. Instead I found this bloated and boring. No martial arts film ever needs to be 2 and a half hours long. Shame cos the fight scenes might be the best I've ever seen!
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Mad Dog clearly died in the first one. There should be no confusion as to whether that was him in the sequel.
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Mad Dog reappears as homeless/undead.
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Lobok posted:Mad Dog clearly died in the first one. There should be no confusion as to whether that was him in the sequel. If you say 'Mad Dog' in the mirror five times he reappears as a contract killer named 'Prakoso'.
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dreffen posted:If you say 'Mad Dog' in the mirror five times he reappears as a contract killer named 'Prakoso'. I wonder if he will be in Raid 3. I would be ok with that.
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AgentHaiTo posted:I wonder if he will be in Raid 3. I would be ok with that. I would think so. Not just a fan favourite but he's been in all three since Merantau.
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Lobok posted:Mad Dog clearly died in the first one. There should be no confusion as to whether that was him in the sequel. Mad Dog was really tough in that end fight in the first one and I was absolutely fine with him just surviving a neck wound. So there was confusion, but it didn't hurt my enjoyment of the movie at all.
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Jul 11, 2014 04:25
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His street fight scene with the machete, was one of the first thing they worked on for the movie, a number of years ago when they were talking about it. It was written for him since then
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I think I had too much anticipation for this and was disappointed with the story. Where the raid felt too short this just felt too long. Didn't really like where the plot went. Was still brilliantly shot and the fights were great. Just did not get on with the story.
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