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notaspy posted:Can you remind me why please, I work for a rail signalling company and some of the guys here seem to think it's as easy as installing a bit if collision warning systems (for example all the drive on the jubilee line does is press stop/go). That bit is easy, any idiot could get a basic level ATO system working. However, you still have a safety critical member of staff on board. As long as they are required, you can't run the system without them, the "hurr hurr get rid of drivers no more strikes" crowd are in lots of poo poo. ATO is actually p. cool but its not the solution to stop strike action unless you go totally staff free which just isn't going to happen without massive massive infrastructure changes.
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QuantumCrayons posted:No, but having a backup in such events as "systems failure" probably is. True but you have to consider whether it's worth investing limited resources in. There is a cost benefit analysis that neither of us has the data to solve. What happens when oyster fails? Same thing will happen here. Spangly A posted:You'd be hard pressed to make a Tory admit that this is what they were doing, the argument will always start as "but we can provide the same service more efficiently and then lower taxes!". This is a proposition with no drawbacks, and also a lie. Yeah but it really sucks dealing with paper tickets and having yet another plastic card. I would rather the money be spent on improvements to the core service of transport.
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QuantumCrayons posted:No, but having a backup in such events as "systems failure" probably is. The contingency for system failure is you open the gates and let everyone ride for free for a few hours.
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Malcolm XML posted:
I agree. Nationalise it, raise taxes to compensate for now-free transport.
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Kurtofan posted:You never heard of Celtiberians? If you're looking for possible sources of the (ab)original British you're going to have to go a lot further back than the last couple of centuries BC. You're all African anyway. :prehistory101:
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Spangly A posted:Yes. Absolutely. Instead of them going "but you're still British" they proceeded to think the entire island was tainted by Portugeezers because of genetic flow. Spangly A posted:Sloth do you actually get the idea of proof by contradiction or does that have too many dangerously European syllables? You've not demonstrated why the concept of ethnicity is dumb, but an individuals shallow concept of it via mocking it. hth
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A Sloth posted:You've not demonstrated why the concept of ethnicity is dumb, but an individuals shallow concept of it via mocking it. hth You haven't demonstrated why it isn't, and you're the one arguing a positive (that a certain trait exists). I have clearly demonstrated that you can't understand a basic use of contradiction, though.
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A Sloth posted:kill yourself junky Oh you silver tongued loving charmer, you.
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A Sloth posted:kill yourself junky You can't even loving spell.
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Spangly A posted:I agree. Nationalise it, raise taxes to compensate for now-free transport. TfL is already nationalized?
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Malcolm XML posted:TfL is already nationalized? They aren't doing a very good job malcolm! let's nationalise it again.
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Gerry Adams has just been arrested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27232731 drat Coalition, taking us back to the 1970's!
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Breaking news on Twitter, Gerry Adams has just been arrested in connection to the 1972 abduction and murder of Jean McConville. Edit: aw gently caress
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A Sloth posted:kill yourself junky A Sloth, as ever, an all round class act.
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A Sloth posted:kill yourself junky You're a real piece of poo poo, pal.
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Pesmerga posted:A Sloth, as ever, an all round class act. As a member of the precariat, how dare you call me out on my "class". Check your privilege, enforcer of bourgeois values.
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A Sloth posted:As a member of the precariat, how dare you call me out on my "class". Check your privilege, enforcer of bourgeois values. Ssh, love. Its all ok now. Back to bed. You really don't know when to stop. Please learn
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The DnD picture thread has discovered UKMT.jpg
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Given his upward mobility shouldn't it be a pheasant? Namechange to Gen. China KG PC CH.
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haakman posted:Given his upward mobility shouldn't it be a pheasant? Namechange to Gen. China KG PC CH. Gen. China (ret)
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Peaches died from a heroin OD. Given that the police found no drugs in her house, it'd be hard to argue that it was accidental. e; I hope you're ready for some tabloid headlines about this!
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Spangly A posted:Peaches died from a heroin OD. There is a very bad taste and obvious joke here.
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I guess Mike the Cleaner got there before the police.
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Zero Gravitas posted:There is a very bad taste and obvious joke here. Didn't we do that one on the day it happened?
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Umiapik posted:Gerry Adams has just been arrested:
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Watermelon City posted:The people who provided the info which implicated Adams are dead, so how could he be convicted? Sorry if it's obvious, but i am neither British or a lawyer. As I understand this (IANAL) the info provided was to a Boston study group, on the condition it could not be released until after the depositioned person's death. It gets released, information is info the Police can use, bingo. Its not like Adams had given evidence,a nd he is not dead, so he is fair game. It seems. these things rarely are above board and straight forward, though.
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Yeah, I don't get the politics of this: my understanding was that there was a sort of unspoken agreement not to go digging too deeply into past crimes in NI, in order to preserve the fragile peace that we've had there over the last years. Suddenly arresting Gerry Adams of all people shatters this consensus - I wonder if it's some sort of bargaining chip to dissuade prosecutions of former soldiers over Bloody Sunday, or something? (Police and politics are irrevocably linked in NI: things like this don't just happen without there being some wider reason behind it)
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