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Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Reddit? He's probably a pedo and a racist, too.

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A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

krispykremessuck posted:

he should go ahead and text cno

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

Octopode posted:

This is why your phone's contact list should adhere to the one-up/one-down rule. Much less chance of drunk texting way above your paygrade.

alternatively as a 3rd class don't have your department head's cell number in your phone

Mad Dragon posted:

Reddit? He's probably a pedo and a racist, too.

yeah because vas didn't step down under mysterious circumstances and some tviv mod didn't get outed as a convicted pedo and also sa wasn't hosting actual cp and didn't refuse to take it down when confronted

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
IN OTHER NEWS

I'm trying to watch my weight, and discovered there are a lot of entries for Navy galley menu food on the MyFitnessPal app. There's white rice. There's chicken. They even have macaroni with slices of american cheese on top of it that the culinary specialist chief calls "mac & cheese."

UHT milk has 36 calories per 100ml serving.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

orange juche posted:

The blood god demands appeasement

That's what women's periods are for

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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krispykremessuck posted:

yeah because vas didn't step down under mysterious circumstances and some tviv mod didn't get outed as a convicted pedo and also sa wasn't hosting actual cp and didn't refuse to take it down when confronted

Vas didn't step down under any mysterious circumstances. He just got tired of internet janitoring after doing it forever. Aatrek was immediately permabanned the moment he was found out. There was never any attempt to hide or protect him. Everyone was pretty shocked when they found out and the hammer came down quick. I can't explain ADTRW outside of just needing a containment space for that poo poo.


ManMythLegend posted:

lol

"A bloo bloo. I'm over worked. The department would fall apart without me. :qq: " - Every E-4 in the Fleet

Don't you see, man, I'm doing everything! No one is helping me at all. My evals suck because other people didn't get qualified!

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Octopode posted:

This is why your phone's contact list should adhere to the one-up/one-down rule. Much less chance of drunk texting way above your paygrade.

May Navy Thread: I Deleted The Text To The Commodore But My Dick Still Went Through

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

Since I am actually on limited duty and being referred to PEB right now, I wanted to be a shipmate :chiefsay: and outline what's gonna happen for you if you actually do get "medboarded."

Your command doesn't get any say-so on whether you go to a med board. The doctor that put you on limdu, who I will refer to as "your doctor" from here on, and two other doctors (typically the others will be your doctor's department as the Convening Authority and one other doctor assigned to the board by your local MTF) are your Medical Evaluation Board. If your doctor thinks you need intensive treatment or time off sea duty and will maybe get better, he'll put you on limdu with the other members of the Medical Evaluation Board. If your doctor (and/or the other members of the MEB) thinks that you will not likely recover enough to be fit for duty by the end of your limited duty, then they can refer you to the Physical Evaluation Board. You'll be entered into IDES.

At that point, you'll get an appointment with a VA Counselor who will file a claim for you. The VA will set up appointments for you to have Compensation And Pension exams for your claimed conditions, otherwise known as "C&P." The findings of these exams and your treatment history will be compiled by your doctor into a Narrative Summary. Along with that, you'll get a Non-Medical Assessment from your command. This is the only input your command gets in the process, and it's a questionnaire/letter from your CO that explains how your condition affects your ability to do your specialty. It's worth noting that if you're on sea duty now, your NMA will be written by whatever command gains you for limited duty orders, so the command you're at now will actually never get any say on where you fall. It's kind of a fun exercise to realize how much your leadership really fuckin cares about you after you got LimDu'd out of their command 4 months ago! they don't

The NARSUM, the notes from your C&P exams, and your whole god damned medical record, even printouts from all the electronic crap will be sent to the VA in Rhode Island to have all your conditions rated according to the VASRD.
Once the VA rates your conditions, then their findings, your NARSUM and NMA will be sent off to the PEB at the Navy Yard in Washington. They will be the ones who determine whether or not you are fit to continue military service. If they find you Unfit, then you will be assigned a DoD Disability rating - whatever the VA rated your unfitting condition[s], and a VA Disability rating - all of the VA ratings combined. If you are Unfit, DoD < 30%, then you'll be separated with severance, if you are Unfit, DoD >= 30%, then you will be placed on either Temporary or Permanent Disabled Retired List with at least 50% of High 3 retired pay and Tricare. Either outcome of the DoD rating, you still get your VA Bennies, and on top of that, since your claims are already filed and rated, you can start getting your welfare checks right after your EAOS instead of waiting two years or whatever everyone else has to deal with.

Everyone keeps referring you to the Milpersman, which will have some good info for you to understand about the administrative side of going on Limited Duty, but what you should really be reading is SECNAVINST 1850.4E, which governs the process. Once you're actually put into IDES, you should be sent to DTAP right away, which will explain all of this in much greater detail, including your chances to appeal for higher ratings, how to be a welfare queen off all this sweet disability cash, and how you can fight to be found fit if you are a retard. From being put into IDES to separating for medical reasons, you are looking at 4-12 months, all told.

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

Mr. Nice! posted:

Vas didn't step down under any mysterious circumstances. He just got tired of internet janitoring after doing it forever. Aatrek was immediately permabanned the moment he was found out. There was never any attempt to hide or protect him. Everyone was pretty shocked when they found out and the hammer came down quick. I can't explain ADTRW outside of just needing a containment space for that poo poo.

I know you were like a swo or something but it was a joke, tardo

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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krispykremessuck posted:

I know you were like a swo or something but it was a joke, tardo

Yeah, I thought about that after I posted it. I'm a little hungover this morning and need a nap.

theAcidQueen
Nov 3, 2009

She'll tear, YOUR SOUL, apart!
Really, REALLY hoping I'm not expected to be a Joe Navy or super sailor type once I arrive in Great Lakes again. Can I make a good impression? hell yes. Can i *keep* that impression going for half a year? we'll see. Still, it's much better then being anywhere resembling a ship or the ocean.

LordNad
Nov 18, 2002

HEY BAD GUYS, THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL HIM!

Cole posted:

I'm high as poo poo and have no idea which thread is the army thread but I know this isn't this so hi guys I'm claiming this as my safe space for a little bit.

This is the Navy thread, so you know what we expect from you. Asylum isn't free.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

LordNad posted:

This is the Navy thread, so you know what we expect from you. Asylum isn't free.

Penciling Shipmate Cole into the watchbill for the barrel

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

Snowdens Secret posted:

Penciling Shipmate Cole into the watchbill for the barrel

Get with the times; it's Sea Warrior Cole.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


TrialbyStone posted:

Really, REALLY hoping I'm not expected to be a Joe Navy or super sailor type once I arrive in Great Lakes again. Can I make a good impression? hell yes. Can i *keep* that impression going for half a year? we'll see. Still, it's much better then being anywhere resembling a ship or the ocean.

What are you doing in Great Lakes?

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

TrialbyStone posted:

Really, REALLY hoping I'm not expected to be a Joe Navy or super sailor type once I arrive in Great Lakes again. Can I make a good impression? hell yes. Can i *keep* that impression going for half a year? we'll see. Still, it's much better then being anywhere resembling a ship or the ocean.

If you're coming up to Great Lakes for an instructor billet, be prepared to take 9-12 credit hours of school per semester while working toward your MTS qualification if you want that EP. I made E-6 up here, but christ is it a circlejerk...

I regret everything.

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
I'm glad I don't give a gently caress about making E-6. Sure the pay would be nice, but it'd be way easier to get out in a few years if I'm still just E-5.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Just do lots of bake sales for your SCPOA or whatever and price gouge the students

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Sir Lucius posted:

..it'd be way easier to get out.

Fixed. This is all that ever needs to be said.

theAcidQueen
Nov 3, 2009

She'll tear, YOUR SOUL, apart!

LingcodKilla posted:

What are you doing in Great Lakes?

I was diverted from my next command in San Diego to Gas Turbine "C" school, because apparently I nearly aced the E-5 exam, and big navy thinks i'm worth the trip suddenly. Either that or we're extremely undermanned in my next command and they think i'm about to become some sort of saint with lock-wire pliers and a can of oil.

I plan on separating as a satisfied E-5, so i'm not about to go crazy trying to impress people. From what they put the E-6 in Engineering through out here it's honestly the last thing I want to do.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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There's also cost concerns at play. Your gaining command probably needs the NEC and got it put into your orders to save them the TADTAR. Schools in the middle of a PCS are pretty routine because it's significantly cheaper to do it en route than it is to get you to the gaining command and then send you off to school.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Christoff posted:

Just do lots of bake sales for your SCPOA or whatever and price gouge the students

There's no SCPOA. Those shits don't have the passionate espirit de corps to set one up. Instead we voluntell our Po's to sell beer at Miller Park on their weekends.

Noeland
Feb 28, 2006

SketchesOfSpain01 posted:

There's no SCPOA. Those shits don't have the passionate espirit de corps to set one up. Instead we voluntell our Po's to sell beer at Miller Park on their weekends.

UMMMM... EXCUSE ME? SCPOA definitely exists. As a prior 2nd class sailor who has made more ranks than most FCPOs, I can tell you that we have the best espirit de corps. Our bake sales are the realest because they include Marijuana. Also: you need to :frogout: of the navy, you try hard.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

vulturesrow posted:

Get with the times; it's Sea Warrior Cole.

i am a civilian i wish to be called "Skipper"

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Cole posted:

i am a civilian i wish to be called "Skipper"

Buy a bass boat.

poopkitty
Oct 16, 2013

WE ARE ALL ONE

TrialbyStone posted:

and big navy thinks i'm worth the trip suddenly.

Big Navy doesn't give a gently caress about you. Ever.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Cole posted:

i am a civilian i wish to be called "Skipper"

The closest I can do is Skippy.

Schlabbalabba
May 10, 2004

I'm a semen, I mean Seaman, I haven't been a semen for 20 years.
Well, I failed my BCA... first one, but at least I started getting paid for PO1 last week... There goes any shot at LDO or CPO first few times up.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Are they still required to give you a special SP eval? I seem to recall something like that for all PRT failures.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Are they still required to give you a special SP eval? I seem to recall something like that for all PRT failures.

First failure not required. Second failure you betcha.

Schlabbalabba
May 10, 2004

I'm a semen, I mean Seaman, I haven't been a semen for 20 years.
I think you get a 3.0 for whatever specific eval portion you get which lowers your overall average... but I can kiss that EP goodbye.

Might be time to go back to subs where we don't do PRT's

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Schlabbalabba posted:

Might be time to go back to subs where we don't do PRT's

Nah.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Or just not be a fatty.

Noeland
Feb 28, 2006

Mr. Nice! posted:

Or just not be a fatty.

Hey bro, the 3 mile club is an elite claim to fame. Only cooler club is the 0 mile club (I was a 2 year member).

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Schlabbalabba posted:

Might be time to go back to subs where we don't do PRT's
Bullshit. We did them all the time.

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW

Mad Dragon posted:

Bullshit. We did them all the time.

all the time as in every 6 months?

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

genderstomper58 posted:

all the time as in every 6 months?
Oh, I though we were talking about ORSE workups. :shepface:




I think we did the normal PRT schedule, mostly because the boat was broken and stuck in port for a long period of time between two deployments. Then it was off to the yards for overhaul.

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW
we always did our PRTs also, definitely never did command PT or anything once though heh

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

We did command PT in the shipyard. It wasn't too bad. The lady leading us had a really nice rear end, so I was okay with watching her while I flailed around on the floor trying to exercise.

Now that I think about it, we did PT in port, too. My coner roommates ratted me out when I slept in one time. :argh:

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Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Mr. Nice! posted:

Are they still required to give you a special SP eval? I seem to recall something like that for all PRT failures.

No, according to the 1610.1C, Ch.1, Page 6, Paragraph a & b, "no mandated or prohibited trait mark required in "Military Bearing"/"Professionalism" for promotability and/or retention for reporting period in which member's first or second PFA failure in a 4-year period." Emphasis mine. Now when you get into your third within 4-years you get a 1.0 in Military Bearing/Professionalism, SP & Retention Not Recommended.

An important note to remember if you are trying to apply for a program and you have since passed a PFA but it is before you periodic. 1610.1C, Ch.3, Page 6, Paragraph b, allows for, "A Special report may be submitted once satisfactory physical readiness is achieved on the most recent official PFA." Emphasis mine again.

This has been your periodic :chiefsay: please remember to always read and understand the pertinent regs and don't just listen to hearsay. Now, I am going back to drinking and studying for finals.

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