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Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

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Students asked good questions, more proof of liberal indoctrination at our schools!

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Asked what actions needed to be taken regarding the latest global climate change report recently released by the United Nations, former insurance agent Mike Causey cautioned that some of the articles written about climate change were written by “biased” people to make a political point.

“First, we need to find unbiased people with an objective viewpoint to look at this, and if there are issues, then we address them,” Causey said.

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SedanChair posted:

Bush is really good for starting just two years ago. Another world leader who should have just been a painter :allears:

Seriously, his stuff looks at least as good as some court artist work:



I'll always have a soft spot for the Blago trial though.



:allears:

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peter banana posted:

Ted Cruz posts "Quick Poll" on Facebook about whether or not Americans are better off now with the ACA. It doesn't go exactly the way he planned.

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorTedCruz/posts/517779935000978

This link is the epitome of :unsmith:. Like... goddamn that's refreshing.

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gently caress You And Diebold posted:

There was a press conference" the minimum wage bill in mn this morning, you'll never guess what the Republican response was focused on... obamacare! Well, really MNSure, but they are really fixated on this story of the governor knowing it was going to have problems and letting it go live anyways. I don't see anyone biting on it, and MNSure is one of the more successful state programs so good luck with that Republicans! Also one of/the lead Republican candidate for governor said he would work to repeal the COL indexing and possibly repeal the minimum wage increase altogether, which I do not see going over well.

Adding this to the list as one more reason this state is better than Wisconsin. :unsmith: I'm really pleased they got the inflation index into the main bill and didn't have to wrangle it into a Constitutional Amendment on the ballot.

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Has Ben Stein ever been poor a day in his goddamn life? Has he ever, even once, had to decide between a meal and medication or gasoline or car repairs or school supplies for his son or the utilities bill or rent?

Because if not, he can gently caress right off with his stupid ignorant opinions. He'd still be an idiot shitheel for how bad those opinions are if he had first hand experience with poverty, but his ignorance is goddamn breathtaking. Hurry up and become obscure you chucklefuck. :wrongful:

Phone posted:

I'm an advocate for open carry knives.

*he unsheathed his Hanzo steel*

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Most Medicaid funding is tied up in long-term health care costs -- nursing homes, assisted living facilities, etc. -- so those would likely be the first cuts to be made. If you have a family member or relative in a Medicaid-funded nursing home bed, under the Ryan budget, that relative is likely either moving into your house or getting abandoned on the street. Think of the savings!

Look man I don't like this any more than you do but we need to make some tough calls and Obamacare is a failure.



See, making that debt graph shrink is way better than caring for the elderly. They'll be fine, they've got retirement savings and pensions and dishwashers and all sorts of other first world amenities. It's practically too easy to keep alive nowadays as a 70+ year old person.

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US Politics April: Obama Bring Back LF

ColoradoCleric posted:

I am going to love it when Immigration Reform causes the Republican party to start tearing itself apart. Keeping the Tea Party around with their anti-reform stance is going to be wonderful with the rest of the entire republican party that uses the labor.

http://www.beefusa.org/ourviewscolumns.aspx?NewsID=2930

Gutiérrez to GOP: 34 days to act on immigration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2-R-5L8s0o

If they were smart they'd soft sell the whole thing as just one part of their plans for a better freer America, so instead I expect immigration reform to be pushed as a major plank of the GOP and then watch as they are beaten over the head with said plank by the media for how lovely it ends up being. Tea Partiers frothing over RINOs is icing.

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comes along bort posted:

Lewis Black gave a talk at the National Press Club today, dispelling the idea that he'd lost his edge in his old age. Things we learn: he's a socialist, he used to work for the Appalachian Regional Commission, and reliance on entrepreneurship to fix social ills is a crock of poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXANL8m6cfg&t=325s

"Ted Cruz / Sarah Palin would be a heinous time to live through but I think I could sell out stadiums." :allears: I feel the same way Lewis Black.

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SedanChair posted:

Well, except for the stuff about communism. Today it's not like we have a poorly defined ideological foe that justifies foreign intervention wait a minute.

:smithicide:

Any idea if Truman's speech is stored in video format anywhere? Some of the best stuff is seeing old addresses like the ones by FDR in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElYNHeL51ZU

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:unsmith: How about some good news for a change thread? :unsmith:

Minnesota makes history with largest minimum wage hike

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Gov. Mark Dayton signed into law the largest minimum wage increase in state history Monday, giving raises to more than 325,000 Minnesotans and making good on a signature Democratic pledge during an election year.

The move to a $9.50 base hourly wage catapults the state from one of the lowest minimum wages to one of the highest once it is fully phased in by 2016. The state’s base wage will be tied to inflation starting in 2018, ensuring the buying power of the state’s lowest-paid workers keeps better pace with the cost of living.

[...]

At $6.15 per hour, Minnesota has one of the lowest minimum wages in the nation, lower than neighboring Wisconsin, Iowa, North Dakota and South Dakota. Minnesota is one of only four states with a minimum wage below the national rate of $7.25 per hour.

State officials estimate that the $9.50 base wage will put an additional $472 million in the pockets of Minnesota’s lowest-wage workers each year. Supporters say the increase in consumer spending is expected to help local businesses in communities across the state, and provide a secondary boost to Minnesota’s economy.

Indexing it to inflation (with caveats) is a big deal in my view. Republican reaction to this bill was predictable:

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“After weeks of political backroom dealing, Democrats finally reached a deal that will take more money from Minnesota businesses and put thousands of Minnesotans out of work,” said state Rep. Pat Garofalo, R-Farmington.

A deal that will take more money from Minnesota businesses.... and give it to their workers who earned that money. Truly, an unspeakable injustice.

Minnesota, you're an alright state to live in sometimes. :glomp:

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Wildlife Analysis posted:

My point was more that if it is increasing to 9.50 and it won't be indexed to inflation until 2018, then there will already be 4 years of inflation diminishing what that is worth. As compared to raising it to 9.50 next year and indexing it at that point or if they increased it to "9.50" over a few years but tied it to inflation now so that it's $10 or whatever in 2018.

I found a chart here that gives an estimation based on past inflation:

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De Nomolos posted:

I think this is where my dad started turning politically, when he realized that, during the wondrous Bush era he'd supported, I was unable to make enough money working in the restaurant industry full-time to pay for a public college. He paid his tuition to the same school working in a junk yard.

Education costs have dramatically outpaced minimum wage levels over the past 30 years:

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In 1979, a four-year private college required 1,112 hours of work at the minimum wage. By 2010, the cost in minimum-wage hours had increased so much that it was no longer possible to pay for a full year of a private four-year college — 3,201 hours — by working full-year, full-time (2,080 hours) at the minimum wage.

Even the minimum-wage hours needed to pay tuition for one year at a two-year college almost tripled between 1979 and 2010, from 156 hours to 403 hours.
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Got a minimum wage job? Maybe you should've went to college. Couldn't afford college on minimum wage? I don't know, maybe sell a kidney? You can't sell a kidney? Thanks OBAMACARE. :sweatdrop:

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

IIRC in 2008 McCain had a few "has no idea how much the proles make" moments. My favorite was the debate at the small liberal arts college where he strongly implied that a large number of the faculty would be affected by Obama's plan to raise taxes on people making over $250,000/yr. I think he also thought farm workers got paid $100/hr.

Mitt Romney betting Rick Perry 10 loving grand was pretty telling. Good call, offer a bet worth half what some people make in an entire year as though it were 5 bucks.

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Dr.Zeppelin posted:

I could see a middle-class person making a ten thousand dollar bet in a "I'm so convinced I'm right that I'm willing to stake my life savings on it" kind of way and maybe Mitt thought that saying that would come off more like a strong conviction and less like "10 grand means nothing to me". Not that I think that's particularly likely but I'm pretty sure his camp was aware of his reputation for not really having any convictions at all and so it's at least possible that he was just (badly) coached to make it sound like he believed in something.

Maybe, but every time that's ever happened to me in real life it's been "I'll bet you a million loving dollars" because the point is to make it extraordinarily absurd.

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zoux posted:

Here, mos' def. it would be a good frame for general local politics process discussion, I know I for one could brush up on my local procedure chops.

Yeah, small time politics can be every bit as interesting as the big stuff if only for all the weirdness that get's mellowed out the higher in office people seem to get.

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ReidRansom posted:

I appear to have gotten an email back from the FWS about Cruz's new rug. Says they're forwarding the information to the appropriate division for investigation and it's worded in a way that indicates they actually read what I wrote. I dunno, could be just blowing smoke up my rear end but maybe they'll actually go after him v:shobon:v

Looking forward to seeing you interviewed by Wolf Blitzer as the Internet Activist who caught Ted Cruz breaking the law. :allears:

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zoux posted:

Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law:


Let's say this goes to court. Does the ACLU support them and argue that if one religion is being shown all must be allowed, or oppose them and argue that no religious displays should be placed at the capitol?

A Winner is Jew posted:

Atheists should erect a statue of John Scopes. That would probably piss off way more people than even the church of satan statue would.

The only right answer:

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SedanChair posted:

This is purely an attempt to make the technology available as a stalking horse for requiring it.

Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion? How certain of you are this? Would you Toxx on it being required in one year? Five? Ten? Twenty?

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SedanChair posted:

Why would I bet on something happening that I'm actively working to prevent?

So no, you don't have any evidence to back up your assertion, and you don't feel confident betting that's the case?

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SedanChair posted:

The evidence is that police have requested the technology, and police organizations work hand in hand with Bloomberg and others. It's not conclusive evidence and it doesn't need to be. It's good enough evidence to fight it tooth and nail.

So when you said this is purely a stalking horse what you meant to say is you are suspicious it's a stalking horse but you don't have evidence to demonstrate it beyond guilt by association which is good enough for you. Thank you for the clarification.

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SedanChair posted:

I hope you get some solace from this, because you're sure not going to get it from changes to gun laws.

I'm not sure why you think I'm getting solace for something with my questions here, I wanted to know if you had a sound basis for your assertion. You've clarified your assertion from statement of fact to what you personally believe to be the case based on associative judgements and I thanked you for that.

e: vvv What? :confused:

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RevKrule posted:

Joel McHale dropped a lot of serious truth bombs from the drone strike express last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adZLY7gzwxg

"C-SPAN is like Paranormal Activity movies. Grainy shots of empty rooms interrupted by shots of people you're pretty sure died years ago." :allears: Looks like he did great.

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SedanChair posted:

At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them?

Human martyrs?

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comes along bort posted:

Not content to just castrate Washington Fat Cats, conservative lt. colonel farm mom and now apparently some biker's old lady Joni Ernst promises to shoot Obamacare right in its stupid face if elected senator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mG9fNOZp4

I always look at each new cycle of campaign ads and tell myself "Well it can't get any more insane than that" and somehow each new cycle manages to outdo the last. This increasing fad of conservatives shooting government ads feels like a lucid dream, and I admire and pity The Onion for how difficult it must be to outcrazy this poo poo consistently. Hell half the time they don't even outcrazy it anymore, they just outright showcase it and it's laughably absurd.

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^^^ Whoever takes over their jobs would be paid and expected to pay taxes on that income. Why is it that Warren Buffett is somehow an indispensable superman that the U.S. working class wouldn't immediately be prompted to replace him were he to gently caress off and stop seeking income in the U.S.? When there's a vacancy at a CEO position it gets filled by another CEO or someone below them who is willing and able to take on the task, so where's the problem? If the current wealthy are too upset about a 90% top tax rate then gently caress them because someone below them is willing to make that extra money in their place.

Amergin posted:

Please show me some sources of this. Otherwise empirically you're not talking empirically.


They provide, what, 70-71% of our income tax revenue?

If we're talking about fevered dreams of poo poo that will never happen, can I assume that when all the rich people leave the working class unite together to take ownership of all the means of production they left behind and the U.S. becomes a socialist utopia? :getin:

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Joementum posted:

Texas compromised on that point. Its official state snack is tortilla chips and salsa.

Minnesota doesn't have a state snack apparently, but our state muffin is blueberry muffins so I'll settle for that. Snackwise you could choose almost anything at the State Fair. Deep fried pickles are goddamn heaven.

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