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re: Demographic shift chat from earlier on page 2 I see a lot of despair over the lack of action from the left and these millenials who are trending so much more in that direction, but isn't the reality that the rightward bent of politics over the course of our development has left us perpetually unmotivated to enact any change? Not to engage in generating a victim complex here, but all the awful regressive policies you hear about in this thread (largely enacted by the Republican party) are beating down entire generations of children, leaving them less and less educated and more and more in debt. And that's not even getting into the apparent futility of trying to legislate change; it's clearly not working if you watch congress try to do anything constructive. How do you really motivate people who seem so thoroughly beaten in general? Mind you, I don't have any data to support this notion, but when you're crushed by mountains of unforgivable debt you mounted in response to the commandment from your preceding generations to get an education and find a job to pay off the mountains of debt you undoubtedly build when getting said education, it's pretty hard to do more than muster a little  about "them politicians!" and go back to worrying about how you're going to pay the next bill and find the next meal. Multiply this by a few million, and well, you're all paying more attention than most...
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Wait. Holy poo poo. They actually do that? What arguments are they using to try to say "we don't need to know this information" other than literally just that?
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That sounds like textbook accelerationism. Which, while perfectly understandable, isn't exactly the ideal solution. Too much suffering would result from that for it to be a desirable solution.
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FaustianQ posted:Republicans controlling the Senate and House won't change the narrative, which is the issue here. Any awful legislation they want to pass will get tacked with important legislation (Bills to feed dogs will require you drown kittens, etc) and if Obama vetoes it then it's not their fault for governing improperly, it's obviously Obamas. Just because people will suffer won't suddenly make them aware of who is really making them suffer. It *is* pretty much a different side of the same coin, now that you bring it up in that context. Accelerationism is just suggesting that people must suffer further and that will at some magical break-point force them to seek change. It's a different way of rationalizing the same nasty bullshit republican legislators are doing to people now with all their regressive bullshit; making being poor bad enough is seen as a motivator in the accelerationist view, just as it is in the right-wing view ultimately.
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