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I don't have a particular article, but I recommend everybody read up about Utah's attempt to re-ban gay marriage. It's pretty hilarious. First it was forgetting to file a request for a stay, then it was three weeks of running about trying to figure out how to file anything (as the old AG resigned due to a corruption scandal), and now it's asking the courts if Utah can re-submit their legal argument because it's got almost a hundred spelling and grammar errors.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 07:49 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:54 |
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As a Utahn, I'd like to formerly apologize for Jon McNaughton's paintings. He's a Mormon artist, and gets a lot of his money from Mormons with a Constitution fetish. The few Mormon liberals here in Utah (like me) hate him more than you can imagine. He's like Glenn Beck, if Beck vomited on a canvass.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2014 06:00 |
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Joementum posted:Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. Man, that's some tasty propaganda right there. Can you feel the self-delusion?
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 15:28 |
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So there's an investment banker running as an Elizabeth Warren-esque populist for New York State Assembly.quote:
Also, his name is Gustavus Adolphus Henry Christensen IV, which is awesome.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2014 02:15 |
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Wildlife Analysis posted:I can't answer your question, but if a rich guy wants to jump on the progressive bandwagon then I'm not going to stop him. Even if it just comes down to him seeing the writing on the wall, it is better that he fight for the progressive cause than status quo New York liberal policy. Yeah, it's genuinely exciting that those who want power think that advocating progressive populism is the way to go.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2014 03:53 |
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So I went to the Salt Lake County Democratic convention the other day, and will go to the Utah Democratic State Convention in a couple of weeks. Spoiler alert, we're still screwed and will probably lose more legislative seats and Jim Matheson's seat. But hey, at least we have our ideological squabbling between the Republican-lites and the lefties!
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 04:52 |
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Ofaloaf posted:The Michigan Democratic Party has been organizing some training sessions for mid-level volunteers and hired campaign guns; so far, I have learned that the optimal organization structure is not too centralized or decentralized(!!!), and that before I can tell the narrative of any candidate's campaign I must learn the story of self and the theory of change. The UDP just whines about how the state is controlled by Republicans and about how diverse the Dems are and such. They like the idea of reaching out to Mormons but the base (who are generally not Mormon) hates it (and Mormons) and the establishment has no idea how to convince Mormons to believe in even center-left ideas. The establishment also likes to present the steadily decreasing number of Utah Democratic legislators as a win, because at least we didn't lose more! I mean, I get it, it's Utah, but we really could do better. Also, the LDS Dems caucus is pathetic, and I say this as an LDS Dem myself (albeit a Bernie Sanders-esque one). We have a lot of people, but no one willing to change their fellow Mormons minds, no one willing to go out and volunteer, no one wiling to do anything but endorse Jim friggin Matheson and call it good.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 06:24 |
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Fried Chicken posted:*Indiana Dem stuff* Definitely, it's the same with the Utah Dems. Back in 2008 we managed to win 3 counties and elected quite a few Dems to the legislature (as well as giving Matheson a huge win). But since then, we've failed with our voter database, we've failed at candidate recruitment, we've begun infighting (with as small as the Utah Dems are, that's just pathetic), and none of our statewide candidates have won even a single county. But at least we've got a couple of lawn signs (and usually not even that). Nessus posted:Yeah, I don't actually understand this at all - is it because they upset the apple cart? You'd think at a certain point they'd prefer to be the winning party. Again, Utah Dems are the same way; progressive dude is successful? Purge him, we want Matheson to give us money for our failed campaigns. Someone wants to try a different tactic? Nope, can't have that. Someone complains about our 30-year decline? Well, they're just a Debbie Downer! Someone asks why the most promising young UDP organizers get hired away by Matheson or the national Dems? Ignore that; we've got more failing candidates to work for!
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 20:20 |
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Magres posted:Yeah this doesn't exactly make him a champion of minority rights. The fact that he's not screaming "SHOOT ALL THE Wait, Huckabee didn't claim that the entire population of NYC is unAmerican? Clearly a RINO.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 18:29 |
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Mo_Steel posted:Maybe, but every time that's ever happened to me in real life it's been "I'll bet you a million loving dollars" because the point is to make it extraordinarily absurd. The point is that Mitt Romney shouldn't be making bets, because 1) they highlight how much of a rich, out-of-touch plutocrat he is, and 2) He's Mormon, and betting is highly frowned upon in Mormon culture. Mitt was the LDS golden boy (except for us few Mormon progressives) and so he got away with it, but for any other Mormon presidential candidates, that kind of bet would raise a few eyebrows, at least. Huntsman probably would have been dinged a bit.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2014 05:06 |
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Whiskey Sours posted:If Hillary is the nominee it won't be Schumer or Gillibrand for VP. Or Cuomo. Unless Hillary decides to pretend she's running as an Arkansan.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 02:45 |
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Al Franken/Jill Stein 2016. I kind of wish there was a politician with the last name of "Colonel", so that we can have Colonel/Sanders.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 05:36 |
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zoux posted:Ugh can you imagine having to eat lunch or just generally hang out with Mike Lee Welcome to Utah, that's pretty much everyone.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 03:38 |
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JT Jag posted:I can imagine a number of conservatives out there that would be pretty pleasant to talk to about non-politics stuff. Mike Lee really loves pirates (as in the "aaarr" type, he's repeatedly talked about his dream of getting a letter of marquee one day). But that's about it. Cruz though, he's basically soulless.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 03:45 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Oh good I was starting to get worried that Lee might have grown a spine and become independent of Cruz. You know, I have no idea why Mike Lee's so attached to Cruz; Lee was elected first, and he certainly did his own thing (he was Rand Paul's buddy, but not his minion) before Cruz came along. I'm at a lose to explain why he's Cruz's minion now.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 06:16 |
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Blindeye posted:This man knows what's up. They did get rid of the "carbon is good for the environment" guy though.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2014 02:50 |
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You Texans make me sad when you bring up Ann Richards because we Utahns don't have a Ann Richards of Utah or any other relatively recent liberal hero.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2014 06:19 |
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ReindeerF posted:Yeah, we sound like Marcus Aurelius in Gladiator. There one was a dream called Texas... Let me try it out. There once was a dream called Utah... Yeah, that doesn't work so well. Of course, the last Democratic governor we had that didn't have the name "Matheson" was back in the 60s and 70s.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2014 16:30 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:54 |
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Cimber posted:Sarah Palin: If I were in charge....they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists. I forgot how much of a word salad Palin's speeches were. Also, that baptism quote is one of the most blasphemous things I've ever heard. And the cheering! That's just awful.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2014 14:32 |