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The invisible hand of the free market will just correct the situation when consumers use coal from a company that didn't spill toxic waste into the local water supply jeez isn't that enough? Good on those kids though. They should be the proctors for every debate instead of the useless wastes of skin we get from "real" journalists.
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Stew Man Chew posted:hooooly poo poo this is incredible. What a ridiculous subversion of the organization's mission. Thanks State department. I'm sure Americans doing real foreign aid are going to appreciate the proof that crazy extremists need to attack them.
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Apr 3, 2014 19:40
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UberJew posted:Three years ago it came out that the CIA was operating at least one fake vaccination clinic in Pakistan, ruining the perception of NGOs doing absolutely critical medical work in one of the most high-population density distressed areas on earth. It made me spitting mad when people I know in real life told me Snowden was a traitor since "he was putting Americans on foreign soil at risk" when our intelligence agencies are doing a fine job of that by themselves.
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Apr 3, 2014 19:56
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Sounds like the solution to me is to stop giving so much subsidies to corn and feed so that meat isn't as cheap while promoting healthier eating and then to regulate companies and schools that test on animals more stringently. I understand both of those are politically unfeasible but I don't think the answer is to throw up our hands and say we should be able to torture animals for fun because certain industries are able to either get around the law or have really good lobbyists and not allowing the blood gates to fully open would be hypocritical.
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Apr 3, 2014 21:35
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To me it feels like we are having acceleration-ism thrust upon us by a combination of the way our congress works and conservative lawsuits working their way up to the Supreme Court.
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Apr 4, 2014 19:28
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Swan Oat posted:Lest anyone forget how awful Third Way Democrats can be, here's a story about Rahm Emmanuel diverting pension money to private interests and using the budget shortfalls to try to crush the public sector. Add this into why we are getting acceleration whether we want it or not. When the democrats (admittedly the worst ones but still) are doing extreme economically conservative shenanigans what chance do we have?
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Apr 4, 2014 19:37
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The best part of Ryan's evil is that Tea Partiers think he's a RINO, compromising, backstabber.
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Apr 7, 2014 17:40
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comes along bort posted:From a couple pages back but yeah everyone reading this thread should get on that poo poo pronto. Personally I think the fact that DC people apparently hate Jonah more than Dan says a lot about them. Also I must not be meeting the important DC people since I have never heard anyone reference the show like that  .
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Apr 8, 2014 03:10
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zoux posted:Ughhhh We are so going to have open carry in this state soon. I watched a bit of this hearing, these people are loving nuts. I don't get how goddamn gunrights are peoples' #1 political issue, and they are completely ignorant of economic, education and other huge issues that affect their day to day lives more than the fantasy that some dude is going to kick down their suburban door in the middle of the night to murder their families for no reason. I think at this point I'd be willing to just acquiesce on open carry and all that if it meant we could get idiotic single issue voters to start thinking about how economic and social issues are screwing them or people they care about. Gun rights people won that battle anyway since they cultishly care more about that issue than anyone else cares about anything.
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Apr 8, 2014 14:29
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Swan Oat posted:Hasn't a state already gotten rid of laws that prohibit guns from being carried into bars? Why yes! North Carolina http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/07/23/4185241/lawmakers-pass-bill-to-allow-concealed.html#.U0QOiXAg3gw
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Apr 8, 2014 15:59
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Joementum posted:Here's a helpful chart from Fox News about last week's campaign finance decision. I think that's my new favorite. The Y axis isn't even labeled.
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Apr 8, 2014 16:24
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zoux posted:You get that's a joke right. No I didn't. Poe's Law fucks me again I guess.
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Apr 8, 2014 16:30
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hangedman1984 posted:Seriously, gently caress Ben Stein: So does that count as "class warfare" since apparently saying mean things about the rich does.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:13
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I thought bitcoins effectively crashed and were worthless now.
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Apr 9, 2014 19:09
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I especially like the part where rich people fighting the government legally is a check on tyranny. I'd love to know which court cases they've been fighting that increased my freedom as opposed to limiting it.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:59
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Has anyone of these rich guy funded marches ever gotten a decent amount of people? I remember the hobby-lobby one was apparently dwarfed by the pro-choice people that came to counter protest.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:30
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If you're looking at Iraq from the right angle (as in who got richer and not who was horrible maimed or killed) it was a massive success. I don't see why Republicans would want to not re-enact that if they scam their way back into office.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:02
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zoux posted:Sebelius says that 7.5 million have enrolled under the ACA. The GOP says "nuh-uh!!!!" They really are going all in on the "7 million signed up is a fabricated number" line it seems.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:26
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Except for unions, we the government to get really involved with loving those up.
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Apr 10, 2014 17:14
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I figured that they meant the more conservative Democrats (such as blue dogs) lost their seats to Republicans. Of course this doesn't really factor into the current Clintonian Democrats that are totally down with slashing public education in favor of charter schools and giving Wall Street money while gutting pensions for instance.
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Apr 10, 2014 20:53
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I highly doubt it. Half the country has totally bought into their idea that the government is inherently worse than the private sector for anything so there's no push from the populace to solve this deadlock one way or the other. It feels to me that the future of the country is coasting on whatever we can drag out of congress while social programs are slowly starved and replaced with whatever scam someone who wants to earn a quick buck creates in its absence. Congress doesn't seem like it's going to change anytime soon and the senate seems like a 50-50 coin flip as well.
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Apr 10, 2014 21:07
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zoux posted:Eventually demographic changes will force the GOP to move left or to be completely marginalized. At least I hope so. In the near term though, nah we're hosed. I figure by the time the Republicans shift left on social issues due to their base not being worth pandering to, the Democrats will have shifted economically so far right in order to appeal to rich backers it wont really matter.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Clarence Thomas never laughs about legal matters. True he snores. 
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Yeah "my ancestors used this land before the Federal Government and thus it's now mine" really isn't the road white Americans want to go down.
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Apr 11, 2014 14:20
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Ayn Rand as a person and her ideology benefit massively when people don't really look into them too strongly or know what they are actually about. Most people hear that and think it's just another hardline right wing thing with an emphasis on income taxes being bad. When you actually start hearing the arguments you realize it's an absurd, racist, evil, hypocritical stance that's really all about explaining why it's ok for "certain" people to be openly corrupt and encourages sociopathic behavior and it loses a little of the benefit of the doubt that people give it and its adherents like Paul Ryan. People in this country like to pretend that the whole Native American genocide thing didn't really happen or to ignore it, but if you have a white, cattle rancher start going off about how it's ok his great-gandfather stole the land because the people previously there weren't using it right all the while complaining about how the government is being a Nazi for trying to take it back I think it's going to give him and his argument a lot of well deserved scorn.
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Apr 11, 2014 14:56
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Malmesbury Monster posted:So long as we're talking about budgets, I just finished reading through the Congressional Progressive Caucus's "Better Off Budget" they're pitching as a not-evil alternative to Paul Ryan and the Republican caucus. Comparing it with Ryan's budget is really illustrative of the differences between Republican and Democratic thought processes. The "Path to Prosperity" is 75 percent prose repetition of Republican talking points and 25 percent vague policy recommendations split evenly between platitudes and cuts, all couched in word salad. For instance, find the policy recommendation in this lovely paragraph! I think the greatest lie that was allowed to fester until it became unacceptably true is that Republicans are the "fiscally intelligent" party. I wouldn't trust them to manage a yard sale let alone be in charge of the largest economy in the world.
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Apr 11, 2014 16:31
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zoux posted:That's because the average American's knowledge of fiscal intelligence is "don't spend too much money" and that becomes the guiding tenet for all their beliefs about money. Yeah that's exactly it, but even then they can't even do that right as evidenced by their lack of restraint in spending money on dumb rear end stuff during the Bush years.
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Apr 11, 2014 16:35
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Fried Chicken posted:SEC caught colluding with the banks on CEO prosecutions I'm surprised they even bother prosecuting at this point since it's not like anyone can do anything about it.
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You could always wait and get super mad when they try and explain how if they didn't do this the entire world economy would collapse and thus they had to cut them a deal.
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greatn posted:I gotta say I went to sex ed in public school in Alabama in 1996, it was completely normal and science based. They pushed abstinence just a little bit saying it was the only foolproof method, but talked about condoms and stuff and didn't tell lies about them not working This is what I got in Virginia around the same time. It feels like the Christian right has become stronger and more brazen in the last ten years so I have no idea if that's still the case.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:This is the part of secession talk that I always find most amusing. They're too focused on loving the Feds to realize the terrible new nation they've created. "We've successfully condemned an entire state to abject poverty possible starvation, and a new place at the third world countries table in the UN." Or when they see first hand how America typically treats the residents of third world countries.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Hell you don't even need to leave the country to see how America treats third world residents just head over to Charleston, WV or New Orleans, LA. There's a joke here about how America is already a third world country that I'm not talented enough to make.
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Eulogistics posted:My favorite thing about Reince Priebus was mentioned on this forum by someone I can't remember (I think it was in one of the 2012 election threads): If you remove all the vowels from his first and last name, "Reince Preibus" becomes "RNC PR BS". That's loving magical and the only proof I will ever need that truth is indeed stranger than fiction. Between that and "My Ultimate Ann Rand Porn" maybe there are mythological tricksters behind all this...
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Apr 16, 2014 18:20
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They started back in the 80's (I believe in order to keep protesters away from the DNC) but have been greatly expanded in recent years since politicians of all stripes enjoy them.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:30
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Justice Ginsberg put it best that this sort of thing is like having an umbrella and thinking that it's no longer raining since you aren't wet. The people instituting these policies know 100% what the result would be but the man on the street doesn't understand that because he doesn't see the abuses (due to government protection) that they won't come back.
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Apr 17, 2014 15:34
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Wasn't Roberts basically trying to gut the VRA since he worked for the Reagan administration? It doesn't sound implausible that he would knowingly misinterpret the law as to get what he's wanted for over twenty years.Ron Jeremy posted:Can you link for those of me who ain't smart enough to google that poo poo? Yeah I'd be really interested too as IANAL.
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Apr 17, 2014 16:10
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I'd say more that they are the Band of Brothers both before and after Lady Stoneheart's takeover.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:57
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I figured the Tea Party was the Faith Militant.
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hobbesmaster posted:So who is Quentyn? Mitt Romney. Rich son who would be no-body without his dad, set up to be the next ruler, ignored by Bush/Dany, kind of lame but not aggressively repellent, flames out spectacularly, and isn't missed by anyone outside his immediate family.
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BOBDOLE. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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